I agree with roll. But have a different take. Ff removed specific references to his special spot in the book, but previous version show the locations and are key to the right potential solve. He seems to have published many stories and articles in a certain area newspaper in the years he started this chase. Why those and not others?
There are many special places he doesn't mention, including ones that had the biggest impact on his life and almost cut it short
Looking in Yellowstone NP is something we do the first time around when new. The first stanza is what sends you on the path to discover the correct place IMO, and you need nothing but the poem. (no, it isn't the word treasures hehe).
My theory #1 is that the poem leads to a bronze bell in WY (riches new), and the bronze bell contains the info needed to gain access to (and the location) of the chest in NM (riches old). The second theory is if there isn't a proxy, the chest is in WY.
Watch the chest be in CO. LOL
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I can only speak for myself... I never once considered Yellowstone to be a viable search area. Too obvious. Too many things working against it. Do this, don't do that, can't you read the signs???!!!
Actually rolltide, on Yellowstone, you speak for me too. I wrote off the entire Yellowstone area within a week of beginning the search some 18 months ago. And for exactly the same reasons as you: way, way too obvious; never a national park (too many rules); way too many crowds (can you imagine park maintenance people building a new utility line and accidentally finding the chest), and so on and so on.
A special, dear, fond, and secret place.
This is a topic that doesn't get enough discussion. (Fifty percent of all discussion at HOD is about Yellowstone; every time I encounter the word "Madison" or "Firehole", I think ... oh no, not again ... and move one.)
A lot of posters seem to pay no attention to what kind of place would be special to FF (apart from childhood summers at YNP); I think that's a mistake. In the Rockies there must be billions of beautiful places (clear blue water, snow-capped mountains, bubbling hot springs, lush green forests, waterfalls, more waterfalls). But why here? Why this particular lake or mountain or forest or waterfall? The answer would be that the place has emotional meaning to FF and at that place ... there may not even be a lake or a waterfall.
The value of TTOTC is not in particular "clues" or "hints" that may exist, but rather the overall backstory. Somewhere in that book is the reason FF selected his special place. If you know what that reason is, you can greatly narrow down the search area. The value of TTOTC lies in FF's emotions and memories, not in finding random clues. At least that's my view.
"Your destination is small, but its location is huge."f
Seannm, I think FF's quote is much simpler and more straightforward. By destination he's merely talking about the small box of gold. By location he's just saying that the small box is somewhere in the Rockies from near Santa Fe north to the Canadian border.
The point being, this search is far more difficult than trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack.
I don't think FF's statement is cryptic or implies some opaque clue.
That assumes the phrase "alone in there" is talking about Forrest.
In my response, I started to insert a different interpretation of the pronoun "I"; then thought, no, it's not germane to the "alone in there" phrase.
If you're talking about that first line being the POV of some ... fish ... I beg to differ. No one is going to convince me that FF's secret place is some fishing hole, and that the searcher has to put on breathing tank, fins, wet suit, goggles, and who knows what else, to dive into some cold body of water to retrieve the chest. This is supposed to be a family friendly quest that's suitable for kids and not risky.
I can't think of a worse solution to the poem than some body of water; unimaginative, trite, amateurish, and dangerous. I can just see some mommy advising her 11 year old >>> "Now, Susie, put on your fins; are your breathing tanks secure?; watch those sharp rocks below the surface"; Susie proceeds to disappear under the water, followed by the appearance of a red liquid on the surface. "Oh, hubby, I think Susie may have encountered a problem; why don't you dive in and rescue her!"
If your "being" is another human (i.e. brother, father, friend, celebrity, blah blah blah), that would be better, but how would FF know for a fact that said individual actually went "in there" alone? And, it would move the focus away from FF, himself, which is not what I envision.
Now, if you're not talking about another person, and your "being" is something other than a fish, ... I'd be swimming with curiosity; and "I" am no fish.
Maybe the phrase is "gone alone". Some people, some times, are alone even in a crowd.
But how would that interpretation help the searcher? "Alone in there" seems more descriptive and helpful; it conveys the impression of a fairly small place.
The phrase "gone (anywhere)" says next to nothing; it conveys no useful information.
Actually, it can. Think about "alone with my thoughts", and this treasure hunt which only Forrest knows. And who says that this line has to mean something to the solve? Important words in the poem could be about the story of it rather than the solve. Remember, only 9 clues are in the poem, and that leaves the possibility that the rest if reference. Where else in the poem does it say that Forrest alone knows where he hid the treasure?
But what I'm saying doesn't really help or hurt much, it's very possible that there's multiple meanings here (just as well that I'm wrong on this). It's just an additional thought.
Yeah, what you're saying is quite correct, goldwatch. Once a searcher gets to within a reasonable distance of the chest, via the clues, it really doesn't matter that much whether FF is talking about a large wilderness area, for example, or a small space like an alcove.
Most searchers probably would still zero in on some "small" area, if there is one, if that's where the clues lead them.