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Post by Jenny on Feb 9, 2018 7:35:21 GMT -5
Each Friday, I post something Forrest Fenn has said, and ask thoughts about it. This week's is on the following, which is found on MW: Featured Q: April 5th".....if you knew the geographic location of each clue it would be a map to the treasure. f"From that statement, it would seem all nine clues of the poem can link to a Geographic Location. Or do you understand it differently?
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Post by CJ on Feb 9, 2018 8:12:56 GMT -5
It's a little early. Please forgive a some rambling. I do think that it's 9 places. There's no denying what Oh!'s found - but it's not yet a complete solve. FF once said that if you found the first clue that you were more than halfway to the treasure "metaphorically speaking" - which, to me, means that physically you may not be halfway to it. I think Oh! has the first clue....but how is 52/17 the canyon - or WHERE is the canyon? I like flipping his 52/17 and starting at the Green River.....but I'm still tempted to go to Kirwin. Even if you had the seconds coordinates, that couldn't be a complete solve if there are 9 clues. If each number was a clue, then there would still only be 6 numbers for an exact spot, unless there are decimals involved....which may total 8 numbers. 109/43 makes perfect sense as to WWWH - but is that one clue, or two? I'm still in love with the Alamo solve. It's so hard to let go of what seem like good ideas of the past...I still haven't seen any other blaze that's as good. White rocks? pffft. I'll probably have to go to Thermopolis and look around - on my way to Kirwin, before I go to the Green River - lol. I've tried to make this work for Kirwin, but so far haven't been able to....it's about 56 miles as the crow flies from Thermopolis to Kirwin... I also keep asking myself - what kind of place is so great that he'd want to die there? Kirwin? I have doubts. Green River? Still doubting.....I just don't know yet. Those also seem like maybe too far to drive....I wonder how long he was gone from home when he hid it.....days, or an afternoon....that scratches at the back of my brain. In the past, when he talked about those who were close he suggested that they didn't recognize the significance of the place...that the place was small but the destination was huge (or something along those lines). This makes me think that the place has some obscure historical significance.....and I still think that the end of it is related to Indians like Washakie or Chief Joseph. The Crowheart story is just one of many that come to mind. If you went there, you may not know the story behind it's name. If anyone didn't catch my previous Alamo solve, it worked like this: WWWH=Temple, Tx TFTW=Train Canyon=Canyon Lake, TX hoB=New Braunfels, TX NPFTM=The Alamo Blaze=Blaze sign on the door Look quickly down=Thermopolae sign Quest to Cease=Thermopolis Brave and In the Wood= ?Ft. Washakie? Shoshone Forrest? Maybe I need to go look for an Indian Saddle somewhere....or up the Indian Creek leading to Mount Wood.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 8:30:21 GMT -5
I see it this way which is much different than most. Each time he has used the word "Geographic" the word and letter count has matched my theory. I don’t know how Toponymy can help you at all Chris. But if you knew the geographic location of each clue it would be a map to the treasure. = 109 letters The reference to this is : mysteriouswritings.proboards.com/thread/1456/slickness-forrest-fenn
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Post by CJ on Feb 9, 2018 8:36:18 GMT -5
I'm with you Oh! - and consider myself a 109'er - I'm just wondering how to figure out the rest of it to get to the exact spot....there's no denying your solution imho....and Kirwin still wouldn't surprise me. I'd just like to know the meaning of ALL of the clues when it's finished.
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Post by 49 dollers on Feb 9, 2018 9:28:28 GMT -5
Well it looks as if a topographical map will not help as much as the book. “Every day, people call begging for clues. The other day, I had 21 email requests. One man asked if he should buy a topographical map and I told him he’d be better served reading the book again. Fenn looked at me. “All you have to do is think about the nine clues and follow them in order.” m.huffpost.com/us/entry/932299
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 9:32:41 GMT -5
Well it looks as if a topographical map will not help as much as the book. “Every day, people call begging for clues. The other day, I had 21 email requests. One man asked if he should buy a topographical map and I told him he’d be better served reading the book again. Fenn looked at me. “All you have to do is think about the nine clues and follow them in order.” I agree. You can be better served from the book until you've received it's topographical clues, then you can apply them to the map. A topographical map is no good without the clues.
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Post by CJ on Feb 9, 2018 11:57:35 GMT -5
If it really comes down to coordinates, then a topographical map doesn't really matter - unless elevation is a factor...
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Post by Jenny on Feb 9, 2018 15:17:08 GMT -5
While I like OH!'s ideas, and think he has done great work,and appreciate him sharing, I'm not convinced Forrest uses 'numbers'. Not saying he doesn't, no one knows what he did, until the chest is found...
So I still feel it's possible--- WWWH might be a clue to a geographical location WWWH..... Take it in the canyon down is a clue to a certain canyon.... not far but too far to walk..... and put in below the home of Brown hints to actual geographical locations as well.... and so on.
I think they might be more literal and understood that way, moreso than with number plays. Even though OH's ideas are compelling....
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Post by CJ on Feb 9, 2018 15:30:16 GMT -5
I'd like to think that it was both....which is part of the disappointment with 109/43....If only one of those coordinates pointed at a hot spring above a canyon - lol.....
Have a great weekend.
CJ
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Post by lookinup on Feb 9, 2018 17:18:50 GMT -5
If a 'hot spring' is the definition of........WWWH - ( I believe it may go much deeper than that.)
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Post by 49 dollers on Feb 9, 2018 18:18:24 GMT -5
If it really comes down to coordinates, then a topographical map doesn't really matter - unless elevation is a factor... Yes, that's why I brought it up, topographical maps show you local features and details, some show relief, but if we knew the geographical location of each clue it would be a map to the treasures location, so how can those locations be for instance (pilots knob) or some other local feature?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 20:14:48 GMT -5
I feel the definition of geographical location along with the letter count of the entire sentence is of one. I don’t know how Toponymy can help you at all Chris. But if you knew the geographic location of each clue it would be a map to the treasure. = 109 letters sciencing.com/geographic-location-mean-8667.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 11:19:27 GMT -5
I think that this quote from Forrest Fenn should be entwined with the topic here. Forrest Fenn on February 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm said: Spoon, “If person had the correct GPS coordinates they could find the chest.” Physics says this has to be true. How can it not be? The key word here is “correct.” dalneitzel.com/2016/02/18/odds-n-ends-about-fenns-treasure-hunt-5/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 11:57:09 GMT -5
It's a little early. Please forgive a some rambling. I do think that it's 9 places. There's no denying what Oh!'s found - but it's not yet a complete solve. FF once said that if you found the first clue that you were more than halfway to the treasure "metaphorically speaking" - which, to me, means that physically you may not be halfway to it. I think Oh! has the first clue....but how is 52/17 the canyon - or WHERE is the canyon? I like flipping his 52/17 and starting at the Green River.....but I'm still tempted to go to Kirwin. Even if you had the seconds coordinates, that couldn't be a complete solve if there are 9 clues. If each number was a clue, then there would still only be 6 numbers for an exact spot, unless there are decimals involved....which may total 8 numbers. 109/43 makes perfect sense as to WWWH - but is that one clue, or two? I'm still in love with the Alamo solve. It's so hard to let go of what seem like good ideas of the past...I still haven't seen any other blaze that's as good. White rocks? pffft. I'll probably have to go to Thermopolis and look around - on my way to Kirwin, before I go to the Green River - lol. I've tried to make this work for Kirwin, but so far haven't been able to....it's about 56 miles as the crow flies from Thermopolis to Kirwin... I also keep asking myself - what kind of place is so great that he'd want to die there? Kirwin? I have doubts. Green River? Still doubting.....I just don't know yet. Those also seem like maybe too far to drive....I wonder how long he was gone from home when he hid it.....days, or an afternoon....that scratches at the back of my brain. In the past, when he talked about those who were close he suggested that they didn't recognize the significance of the place...that the place was small but the destination was huge (or something along those lines). This makes me think that the place has some obscure historical significance.....and I still think that the end of it is related to Indians like Washakie or Chief Joseph. The Crowheart story is just one of many that come to mind. If you went there, you may not know the story behind it's name. If anyone didn't catch my previous Alamo solve, it worked like this: WWWH=Temple, Tx TFTW=Train Canyon=Canyon Lake, TX hoB=New Braunfels, TX NPFTM=The Alamo Blaze=Blaze sign on the door Look quickly down=Thermopolae sign Quest to Cease=Thermopolis Brave and In the Wood= ?Ft. Washakie? Shoshone Forrest? Maybe I need to go look for an Indian Saddle somewhere....or up the Indian Creek leading to Mount Wood. A blaze is a fly fishing reel. Sorry CJ I am fishing again...lol. Creating a world of trouble here.
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Post by CJ on Feb 14, 2018 12:25:40 GMT -5
Lol - Go Fish.
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