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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 11, 2019 21:20:26 GMT -5
Richard: will respectfully disagree. I believe specific geographic placenames are concealed within the poem. A critical element of WWWH is there, and home of Brown has a named geographic counterpart. But ... the right interpretation of "Put in below" is far more critical than the identity of Forrest's hoB.
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 5:18:39 GMT -5
Richard: will respectfully disagree. I believe specific geographic placenames are concealed within the poem. A critical element of WWWH is there, and home of Brown has a named geographic counterpart. But ... the right interpretation of "Put in below" is far more critical than the identity of Forrest's hoB. There are geographical names to the places, but they are not in the poem. Even Brown is not the name of the geographical location. IMHO I believe I have Determined the HOB and all the other clues feed into it, or from it as needed. I will be BOTG next week and I will determine What I have then. But I do know this, the HOB I discovered comes from Forrest's own words and is the reason he believed the poem would not be solved for 100 years. This theory is so solid as to rule out a coincidental match to the probability of 98.9% assurance of the logical occurrence of statistical significance. I will be releasing my information 09/28, I will show every step from wwwh to tswmg, and possibly to the end. I am not saying I know where the TC is, I am simply stating that I believe I know the general area of it's location. Close enough by my research to possibly the retrieval of Indulgence. With my HOB solution every clue snapped into place up to retrieval, that will require BOTG. I will on 09/28 give my data on Kthor, and Cowlazers marathon Vlog then everyone will see the significance and the reasoning behind the theory, and can decide for themselves it's value. I will say this. That to date, no one has seen this aspect of solving the poem, except maybe Forrest himself. I do not state this lightly. I have been a searcher behind the scenes since September 2012, and have done 1000's of hours research on all four states. I have never come across anything like this in all that time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 7:21:36 GMT -5
Richard: will respectfully disagree. I believe specific geographic placenames are concealed within the poem. A critical element of WWWH is there, and home of Brown has a named geographic counterpart. But ... the right interpretation of "Put in below" is far more critical than the identity of Forrest's hoB. There are geographical names to the places, but they are not in the poem. Even Brown is not the name of the geographical location. IMHO I believe I have Determined the HOB and all the other clues feed into it, or from it as needed. I will be BOTG next week and I will determine What I have then. But I do know this, the HOB I discovered comes from Forrest's own words and is the reason he believed the poem would not be solved for 100 years. This theory is so solid as to rule out a coincidental match to the probability of 98.9% assurance of the logical occurrence of statistical significance. I will be releasing my information 09/28, I will show every step from wwwh to tswmg, and possibly to the end. I am not saying I know where the TC is, I am simply stating that I believe I know the general area of it's location. Close enough by my research to possibly the retrieval of Indulgence. With my HOB solution every clue snapped into place up to retrieval, that will require BOTG. I will on 09/28 give my data on Kthor, and Cowlazers marathon Vlog then everyone will see the significance and the reasoning behind the theory, and can decide for themselves it's value. I will say this. That to date, no one has seen this aspect of solving the poem, except maybe Forrest himself. I do not state this lightly. I have been a searcher behind the scenes since September 2012, and have done 1000's of hours research on all four states. I have never come across anything like this in all that time. I don't understand, how could the places not be in the poem?
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 7:35:47 GMT -5
The places are in the poem, it is the geographical names that are not in the poem. In other words you cannot find any name in the poem on the map. All you will find is general locations. The one clue that must be resolved is where is HOB, or what is HOB. I think I have resolved that, which points me to the other clues I have already located and puts me on the correct path to concluding my theory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 7:47:03 GMT -5
The places are in the poem, it is the geographical names that are not in the poem. In other words you cannot find any name in the poem on the map. All you will find is general locations. The one clue that must be resolved is where is HOB, or what is HOB. I think I have resolved that, which points me to the other clues I have already located and puts me on the correct path to concluding my theory. The poem has "clues" that lead to places, I get that. But they have to lead to specific places or otherwise you'll be going in circles. What do you normally determine for your WWH??
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 9:42:43 GMT -5
I have a specific hot spring that halts at a specific place that leads in a canyon down that ends with my Put in below what is the HOB,TEIDN,, the PI takes you to NPFTM, where you'll find NPUYC, you'll see HLAWH, where if you have been wise you'll find the blaze, where you better TSWMG and you better be BAITW or you'll never find the chest I never set in most cases a specific for anything. This is the exception to that rule. everything clicked 123, so smoothly I can't find fault in any of it. All I can do is refine it to the purest form I can. That may or may not be good enough. If it isn't then it is my fault not the theory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 10:02:39 GMT -5
I have a specific hot spring that halts at a specific place that leads in a canyon down that ends with my Put in below what is the HOB,TEIDN,, the PI takes you to NPFTM, where you'll find NPUYC, you'll see HLAWH, where if you have been wise you'll find the blaze, where you better TSWMG and you better be BAITW or you'll never find the chest I never set in most cases a specific for anything. This is the exception to that rule. everything clicked 123, so smoothly I can't find fault in any of it. All I can do is refine it to the purest form I can. That may or may not be good enough. If it isn't then it is my fault not the theory. That's a lot of initials.
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 10:58:32 GMT -5
I have a specific hot spring that halts at a specific place that leads in a canyon down that ends with my Put in below what is the HOB,TEIDN,, the PI takes you to NPFTM, where you'll find NPUYC, you'll see HLAWH, where if you have been wise you'll find the blaze, where you better TSWMG and you better be BAITW or you'll never find the chest I never set in most cases a specific for anything. This is the exception to that rule. everything clicked 123, so smoothly I can't find fault in any of it. All I can do is refine it to the purest form I can. That may or may not be good enough. If it isn't then it is my fault not the theory. That's a lot of initials. Better than all the letters.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 12, 2019 12:13:24 GMT -5
That's a lot of initials. Better than all the letters. GL Richard
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 14:00:40 GMT -5
Thanks. This will be my last BOTG anyway it goes due to lung issues.
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Post by Jenny on Sept 12, 2019 14:05:25 GMT -5
Thanks. This will be my last BOTG anyway it goes due to lung issues. Best of luck and stay safe!
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Post by richard on Sept 12, 2019 15:45:13 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 12, 2019 16:00:06 GMT -5
... I believe specific geographic placenames are concealed within the poem. A critical element of WWWH is there, and home of Brown has a named geographic counterpart. There's some confusion in this thread when talking about the LGFI in relation to place names. Are y'all saying that the poem contains letters that spell out some place name associated with a clue? Or, are you saying that the correct map has a place listed on it that corresponds to WWWH and maybe canyon down (though not everyone agrees on this)? Which is it? If you are saying that a searcher can use letters in the poem to spell out the place that corresponds to WWWH or some other clue, I emphatically disagree. Which is why I think it is useless to employ anagrams or spreadsheets. But, if you are saying that when the LGFI has the correct map, then she can locate on that map the place name of WWWH (and maybe canyon down or whatever the second clue is), but not subsequent clues, then I will agree with that. I copied zap's comment, but if anyone has an opinion on this, chime in. Zap, please clarify your comment. "Are y'all saying that the poem contains letters that spell out some place name associated with a clue?"
I won't speak for others, but yes: I believe a critical placename is hidden within the structure of the poem.
"If you are saying that a searcher can use letters in the poem to spell out the place that corresponds to WWWH or some other clue, I emphatically disagree."
Nothing wrong with disagreeing. But I'm 100% sure that's exactly what Forrest did.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 12, 2019 16:10:02 GMT -5
A question for Richard: "I have a specific hot spring that halts at a specific place that leads in a canyon down that ends with my Put in below what is the HOB."
If WWWH is a standalone clue that can be "nailed down" without solving any of the other clues (I can provide ATFs that strongly support this hypothesis), then how did you choose your one specific hot spring out of the hundreds of others in the four-state area? Did something in the poem single-out this particular hot spring (e.g. by name)? Based on what you've written, I realize you don't think the poem outright names it, but perhaps you believe the poem infers it -- maybe via synonym.
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Post by richard on Sept 13, 2019 11:51:47 GMT -5
A question for Richard: "I have a specific hot spring that halts at a specific place that leads in a canyon down that ends with my Put in below what is the HOB." If WWWH is a standalone clue that can be "nailed down" without solving any of the other clues (I can provide ATFs that strongly support this hypothesis), then how did you choose your one specific hot spring out of the hundreds of others in the four-state area? Did something in the poem single-out this particular hot spring (e.g. by name)? Based on what you've written, I realize you don't think the poem outright names it, but perhaps you believe the poem infers it -- maybe via synonym. I had several hot springs in mind when I started my search in this area. But it seemed impossible to pin one down. So while keeping the poem in mind I reread TTOTC. In the process It struck me about a curious thing he was doing in one seemingly unimportant passage, that would be of interest to anyone who was searching for the TC. I followed a thought that played out unexpectedly to a point that was crazy real. It showed me the HOB nobody has seen. Although all 3 of my hot springs were there only one fit the poem to a T. Everything but the TC's exact location fits. I have over 50 BOTG's in the last 7 years. But this one is the only one that came in so easy to fit the clues. Even so I have learned not to underestimate Mr. Fenn. I will not and do not claim I know exactly where The TC is. That I believe can only be determined by a BOTG. But I honestly believe I have found Forrest's HOB and that puts me in the correct area for the TC.
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