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Post by richard on Sept 13, 2019 12:17:52 GMT -5
richard wrote: You seem to be taking the clues out of order. Forrest said the first clue was WWWH, not HOB. What have you done ... found a HOB, then backtracked to a suitable WWWH? I would be leery of any solution that does not first solve WWWH. I have several WWWH's. You cannot know which WWWH out of the many in the Rocky's which is the correct one until you go to the HOB, as I explained above. Never start a search with out due research first. If you have to force a clue to fit then you are wrong to begin with. But if a clue such as BROWN is too easy to find then I would be suspect of it, because by now there have been hundreds, maybe even thousands, who have searched there. I fall again on detective reasoning. If the clue is too obvious then it is most likely a false trail. With over, according to Forrest, 350,000 people searching and many in the same areas unsuccessfully, what is the most common assumption. I believe it is everyone looking for the most common clue to attract them to an identifiable point in the poem. That point being of, or assumed to be associated with, Brown. Here's where it gets tricky for me. Without deductive reasoning, and Forrest's own words, this solution for HOB would not have been possible. I could also state his lack of extensive talking on this subject is a curious matter when taking his childhood into consideration. The whole poem is written in a manner of deductive reasoning, but calling for an imaginative solution to each clue. It is perfect illogical logic, that is why it flies in the face of solubility. Drifter please do not edit my quotes, I said all clues feed into it, OR FROM IT. You don't edit what Mr. Fenn states, You should never edit what others state to make your own opinion seem more valid.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 13, 2019 21:57:35 GMT -5
Richard: vehemently disagree: you can and MUST know WWWH before you leave home or you are just wasting time and money.
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Post by richard on Sept 13, 2019 22:06:40 GMT -5
Richard: vehemently disagree: you can and MUST know WWWH before you leave home or you are just wasting time and money. I have already stated I have the WWWH with my theory, It was posted in a previous post I found it along with three others. but could not pin one down over the other. So I reread TTOTC, and something popped that I had not considered before. So I ran the research and calculations through the ole Gray computer then cross checked with the internet. Low and behold HOB popped up just where I thought it could not be true. But there it was before my eyes. BOOM! everything except the confirmation of where the chest lies exactly. The trip was to crazy to believe, but guess what. Next week I am heading to that spot.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 13, 2019 22:41:47 GMT -5
I do wish you good luck! But ambiguity is a warning sign. WWWH is crystal clear when solved correctly in my opinion. I await your report at the end of the month.
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Post by richard on Sept 13, 2019 22:45:52 GMT -5
I do wish you good luck! But ambiguity is a warning sign. WWWH is crystal clear when solved correctly in my opinion. I await your report at the end of the month. Thankyou for the good wish's. I'm sorry but the only ambiguity I see, is in what I am willing to release at this time. The poem itself is one gigantic piece of ambiguity. If WWWH was crystal clear then Forrest would not have said it IMHO. He has often said none of the clues could be confirmed until the last was solved. Now there is ambiguity in it's best suit. By the way Vehemently? I think that is rather a word for another type of conversation than this. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/vehement
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 14, 2019 1:50:48 GMT -5
I do wish you good luck! But ambiguity is a warning sign. WWWH is crystal clear when solved correctly in my opinion. I await your report at the end of the month. Thankyou for the good wish's. I'm sorry but the only ambiguity I see, is in what I am willing to release at this time. The poem itself is one gigantic piece of ambiguity. If WWWH was crystal clear then Forrest would not have said it IMHO. He has often said none of the clues could be confirmed until the last was solved. Now there is ambiguity in it's best suit. By the way Vehemently? I think that is rather a word for another type of conversation than this. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/vehement"Vehemently" is a good word, and I used it accurately. But I do hope you enjoy your adventure and will report back. If this is your first Botg, then you will learn a great deal.
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Post by Jenny on Sept 14, 2019 8:58:35 GMT -5
Richard wrote: I do not have the administrative ability to "edit" your quotes or "edit" anything at all that you write. Only the website's administrator and moderator can do that. What I think you mean is: Drifter don't critique my posts. One of the purposes of a message board is to discuss differences of opinion, which includes critiquing. If you don't want your beliefs and opinions commented on, don't post. Drifter- I understood what Richard meant, and so should you have....it was an edit... you cut off the last part of his sentence when quoting him, changing the full context. To all: Please know when discussing differences of opinions here, respect should always be shown first. I understand tone is something difficult to gauge, but all should try to convey thoughts or different ideas in an non-condescending manner. None of us have the 'treasure' and therefore we should all keep in mind, we might not know what we think we know. This humility can go a long way in keeping forum discussions tension free. No one likes to be patronized, and it will not be allowed here.
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Post by omni on Sept 15, 2019 23:52:25 GMT -5
There's some confusion in this thread when talking about the LGFI in relation to place names. Are y'all saying that the poem contains letters that spell out some place name associated with a clue? Or, are you saying that the correct map has a place listed on it that corresponds to WWWH and maybe canyon down (though not everyone agrees on this)? Which is it? If you are saying that a searcher can use letters in the poem to spell out the place that corresponds to WWWH or some other clue, I emphatically disagree. Which is why I think it is useless to employ anagrams or spreadsheets. But, if you are saying that when the LGFI has the correct map, then she can locate on that map the place name of WWWH (and maybe canyon down or whatever the second clue is), but not subsequent clues, then I will agree with that. I copied zap's comment, but if anyone has an opinion on this, chime in. Zap, please clarify your comment. "Are y'all saying that the poem contains letters that spell out some place name associated with a clue?"
I won't speak for others, but yes: I believe a critical placename is hidden within the structure of the poem.
"If you are saying that a searcher can use letters in the poem to spell out the place that corresponds to WWWH or some other clue, I emphatically disagree."
Nothing wrong with disagreeing. But I'm 100% sure that's exactly what Forrest did.
You can't be 100% sure about anything in this chase, especially something like that. Not unless you have the chest. Richard, either I've interacted with you on a Facebook page or you are the second person this week to say that they found where the chest is by finding the HoB first. So many people with 100% certainty and 98% probabilities.
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