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Post by susb8383 on Nov 25, 2018 21:47:09 GMT -5
Just noticed something odd as I was scrutinizing this page. We're supposed to be looking at a camera lens, so everything is a reflection of what the person is seeing looking through the camera. So why is the point of the left peak OUTSIDE of the lens?
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Post by astree on Dec 23, 2018 8:37:09 GMT -5
I think it is confirming a piece of information, susb.
A code on this page possibly says FOLD.
I didnt find specific instructions, of what to fold on the page. Or it may refer to a geologic feature. Or something like the map on p. 30.
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 24, 2018 22:50:37 GMT -5
Do you feel like sharing how 'fold' is found?
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Post by astree on Dec 25, 2018 7:02:42 GMT -5
Do you feel like sharing how 'fold' is found? Heres part of it. Instuctions are to take the first two letters of “FOld” and last two letters of “heLD” to which “NORTH” gets added. Thats why i wrote “possibly fold” because it could also be “OF LD NORTH” (of the L’d north region), for example, although FOLD makes more sense based on the way that particular code is used. also L D are roman numerals, but i didnt get anything there.
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Post by henrycarnauba on Feb 23, 2019 8:00:48 GMT -5
I did fold mine...there is a seeming defect running diagonally through this page. Pel confirmed for me that there are no printing defects...
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Post by astree on Feb 23, 2019 8:11:45 GMT -5
Its not clear what FOLD is referring to, if anything at all. (a guess would ce to fold so that FO and LD form FOLD), Maybe the manner in which it is hidden. P. 30, as mentioned... could be the folded map. There are many elements of the pictures which are not right, which may be part of a fold. given the possible FOLD on the REFLECTS page makes me want to look some more (as previosly mentioned, p. 23... count to three... seems ripe for this type of application). I think it is confirming a piece of information, susb. A code on this page possibly says FOLD. I didnt find specific instructions, of what to fold on the page. Or it may refer to a geologic feature. Or something like the map on p. 30.
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Post by davo on Feb 25, 2019 23:29:33 GMT -5
What is that Orange circle in the fox's ear?
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Post by rarbowen on Feb 26, 2019 3:35:38 GMT -5
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Post by astree on Feb 26, 2019 5:56:52 GMT -5
. I agree, davo. I think the authors use island features as part of subpuzzles (they did place the window in the correctvspot, but left out details, like the spokes and changed the left petal pattern above the lower window...why?)
thanks for the link, rbowen.
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Post by morpheus221 on Mar 3, 2019 11:10:50 GMT -5
DMS = degrees minutes seconds Degrees = 44 (62-18) Minutes/Seconds= 1927614
I’d have to look at my notes again but I believe these are the latitude coordinates for the building depicted in the image.
I think this is a distraction for the ‘hidden’ border code.
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Post by astree on Mar 3, 2019 11:31:31 GMT -5
Morpheus, Discussion of the DMS as coordinates here: mysteriouswritings.proboards.com/post/22470/threadThe page has numbers that can be used as coordinates, license plate = 44, count 2 3, the 1927614, and possibly spme others. I believe there is a strong solution for the 1927614 that i havent seen mentioned yet, in addition to the DMS application.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 20:02:47 GMT -5
I'm just starting to pick this book back up after a hiatus over the winter. I looked online at a few different camera lens and noticed something interesting with actual lens vs. the lens on pg. 19. For the first time, I noticed it seems as if the ratio and mm of the camera are opposite to an actual lens. I mean that every lens image I looked at has the 50 mm before the 1:1.4 D. I wonder if this is meant to hint to the reverse of something on this page? Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 10:38:27 GMT -5
I'm just starting to pick this book back up after a hiatus over the winter. I looked online at a few different camera lens and noticed something interesting with actual lens vs. the lens on pg. 19. For the first time, I noticed it seems as if the ratio and mm of the camera are opposite to an actual lens. I mean that every lens image I looked at has the 50 mm before the 1:1.4 D. I wonder if this is meant to hint to the reverse of something on this page? Thoughts? You are correct. This panel (#6), as well as two other even-numbered panels, on page 15 (#4) and page 47 (#14), have clues in the border words and/or images suggesting inverting or rotating the pages. I addressed this in the section on assigning colors to the sides of the panels in my initial long post.
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Post by astree on Mar 29, 2019 15:55:31 GMT -5
I'm just starting to pick this book back up after a hiatus over the winter. I looked online at a few different camera lens and noticed something interesting with actual lens vs. the lens on pg. 19. For the first time, I noticed it seems as if the ratio and mm of the camera are opposite to an actual lens. I mean that every lens image I looked at has the 50 mm before the 1:1.4 D. I wonder if this is meant to hint to the reverse of something on this page? Thoughts? Several thoughts: 1) since all the information we need is said to be in the book, it should not be necessary to find the referenced lens. 2) however, the page is about REFLECTIONS, which could invert or provide a mirror image of, the referenced lens 3) i believe the authors use actual information, such as images from the island and other items (in this case the lens). They use this information to provide clues (either usable or confounding)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 18:26:46 GMT -5
astree Thank for the reply. I have a thought based off your first thought. Sure, according to the authors, all the information we need to solve the puzzle is in the book; however, I don't think that excludes us from having to reference things outside of the book to help solve or see things that were intentionally drawn in error or as clues. For example, not everyone will know the names of the trees or the flowers or the zodiac symbols, etc. And to help figure out if they are part of the solution, it might require some research to education oneself on what the items in the illustrations are or how they are supposed to look in order to know if the artist intended to flip the position of these two on the lens (and ultimately replace the letters on the real world version with numbers for the puzzle). If one did not reference something outside of the book, how would they know the numbers are not typically there? I would say younger puzzle solvers would not know, without some research, as most use their phones as cameras. Maybe it was the artist's intention for the audience, in 2007, to use these cameras on a regular basis; but I would argue that technology has changed enough in recent years that one might need to reference information outside of the book in order to understand the clues in the book. We can't forget that this puzzle was made over a decade ago and therefore items in it might be obsolete -- even the artist's rendition of the park's border no longer applies. So, I would say that it definitely requires some reference outside of the the book itself. I would also argue that this forum is, in itself, a reference for all to post or view it. And why? Because most people would not have all the knowledge to solve. If one doesn't know Polybius puzzles or matrices, etc. they would have to reference those things and go outside of the book. In conclusion, I believe that some research outside of the book is required and ultimately is what we are all doing here. All this being said, the position of the numbers on the lens in the book is the same as the letters (AF NIKKOR) on the lens in the picture -- so three things on the front of the lens with only two positions switched and letters instead of numbers. A hint to letters = numbers and vice versa? maybe?
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