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Post by heidini on Nov 28, 2018 21:54:36 GMT -5
Looking at the map from a child's, all I see is the basin in the middle of the map. I can't even see Yellowstone on the 8 1/2 x 11 copy I have. The 1 thing about the map that has bugged me until about 3 minutes ago is that the map looks like the profile of someone laying on HIS back looking at the stars and getting ready look down and find a broken bowl. Does any of this sound familiar? WWWH is GREAT DIVIDE BASIN!!!! Ready to look down and find a broken bowl? Where did get that?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Nov 28, 2018 22:43:55 GMT -5
CJ,
I failed in my attempt to add your previous quote to a reply I had made while offering comments in regards to "Sacagawea"; (see page 2.) Hope they will be useful to you as well. Additionally; previous '109/43' theories that were shared with us by "OH" have been top drawer IMO, and could be well worth the find.
Top drawer.
lookinup
Although he was quite bright, I feel he had a “my way or the highway” attitude. He wasn’t much for receiving alternate ideas or when people questioned his ideas. Heidini: I would agree: bright, confident, but deluded. The curse of the overly intelligent.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 4:19:14 GMT -5
Although he was quite bright, I feel he had a “my way or the highway” attitude. He wasn’t much for receiving alternate ideas or when people questioned his ideas. Heidini: I would agree: bright, confident, but deluded. The curse of the overly intelligent. How does 109/43 take you to the TC These are random # with no meaning,that I can find.
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Post by CJ on Nov 29, 2018 10:12:54 GMT -5
I can't explain the whole thing here....in short, warm waters halt when they get hot. Hot water is defined by international plumbing code as 110 degrees Fahrenheit - which is about 43 degrees Celsius. The theory is, roughly, that these correspond to lat/long coordinates. There are other numbers throughout the books, scrapbooks, poem, etc... - that Oh! used to determine that Kirwin was the place to start.
I personally have thought that the start point of WWWH MIGHT WELL BE the 109/43 coordinates.
Love the Great Divide Basin idea btw....I have other theories that point to this general area - starting at or near this area.
What I REALLY want to know is - WHO it was that emailed FF last year that made him think it would be found. I honestly don't recall if I did or not, and changed jobs, so no longer have access to the email that I was mailing him from....SOMEONE DID send him something that gave him the gut feeling.....if only we knew who....
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Post by jdiggins on Nov 29, 2018 10:30:23 GMT -5
I can't explain the whole thing here....in short, warm waters halt when they get hot. Hot water is defined by international plumbing code as 110 degrees Fahrenheit - which is about 43 degrees Celsius. The theory is, roughly, that these correspond to lat/long coordinates. There are other numbers throughout the books, scrapbooks, poem, etc... - that Oh! used to determine that Kirwin was the place to start. I personally have thought that the start point of WWWH MIGHT WELL BE the 109/43 coordinates. Love the Great Divide Basin idea btw....I have other theories that point to this general area - starting at or near this area. What I REALLY want to know is - WHO it was that emailed FF last year that made him think it would be found. I honestly don't recall if I did or not, and changed jobs, so no longer have access to the email that I was mailing him from....SOMEONE DID send him something that gave him the gut feeling.....if only we knew who.... I personally have thought that the start point of WWWH MIGHT WELL BE the 109/43 coordinates. I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:31:31 GMT -5
I can't explain the whole thing here....in short, warm waters halt when they get hot. Hot water is defined by international plumbing code as 110 degrees Fahrenheit - which is about 43 degrees Celsius. The theory is, roughly, that these correspond to lat/long coordinates. There are other numbers throughout the books, scrapbooks, poem, etc... - that Oh! used to determine that Kirwin was the place to start. I personally have thought that the start point of WWWH MIGHT WELL BE the 109/43 coordinates. Love the Great Divide Basin idea btw....I have other theories that point to this general area - starting at or near this area. What I REALLY want to know is - WHO it was that emailed FF last year that made him think it would be found. I honestly don't recall if I did or not, and changed jobs, so no longer have access to the email that I was mailing him from....SOMEONE DID send him something that gave him the gut feeling.....if only we knew who.... Well can we start that area of 109/43 and drop in latitude down to 35° to put in below the hob meaning New Mexico
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Post by CJ on Nov 29, 2018 10:38:08 GMT -5
I can't explain the whole thing here....in short, warm waters halt when they get hot. Hot water is defined by international plumbing code as 110 degrees Fahrenheit - which is about 43 degrees Celsius. The theory is, roughly, that these correspond to lat/long coordinates. There are other numbers throughout the books, scrapbooks, poem, etc... - that Oh! used to determine that Kirwin was the place to start. I personally have thought that the start point of WWWH MIGHT WELL BE the 109/43 coordinates. Love the Great Divide Basin idea btw....I have other theories that point to this general area - starting at or near this area. What I REALLY want to know is - WHO it was that emailed FF last year that made him think it would be found. I honestly don't recall if I did or not, and changed jobs, so no longer have access to the email that I was mailing him from....SOMEONE DID send him something that gave him the gut feeling.....if only we knew who.... Well can we start that area of 109/43 and drop in latitude down to 35° to put in below the hob meaning New Mexico Lol - I guess you could....frankly, my "Alamo Solve" led me to Thermopolis - which is another reason why I'm (at least currently) "searching" in this area.
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Post by npsbuilder on Dec 6, 2018 23:45:59 GMT -5
Looking at the map from a child's, all I see is the basin in the middle of the map. I can't even see Yellowstone on the 8 1/2 x 11 copy I have. The 1 thing about the map that has bugged me until about 3 minutes ago is that the map looks like the profile of someone laying on HIS back looking at the stars and getting ready look down and find a broken bowl. Does any of this sound familiar? WWWH is GREAT DIVIDE BASIN!!!! Ready to look down and find a broken bowl? Where did get that?
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Post by npsbuilder on Dec 7, 2018 0:24:58 GMT -5
I have tried to find the exact reference I used above and can't. The summary of what I was referring to was something ff said about walking in the woods with his wife Peggy. Basically he was telling a story about the two of them walking through the woods some years back in the mountains and stopping to rest for a minute. While resting on a log or laying down by a log he looked down and right next to him, at his side, was an old Indian ceramic bowl broken into 5 pieces. I will keep looking for the story and post once I find it.
While I was looking, I came across the story about someone finding broken pottery after looking under a rock in the floor of and old cabin. The similarities of what I had read about ff and Peggy making the find and this other one under the floor has gotten me second guessing myself and what I was remembering. I am still confident that what I remember is basically correct.
If anyone out there knows where to find the story about ff and Peggy finding the bowl please let me know.
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Post by rolltide on Dec 7, 2018 9:39:49 GMT -5
I have tried to find the exact reference I used above and can't. The summary of what I was referring to was something ff said about walking in the woods with his wife Peggy. Basically he was telling a story about the two of them walking through the woods some years back in the mountains and stopping to rest for a minute. While resting on a log or laying down by a log he looked down and right next to him, at his side, was an old Indian ceramic bowl broken into 5 pieces. I will keep looking for the story and post once I find it. While I was looking, I came across the story about someone finding broken pottery after looking under a rock in the floor of and old cabin. The similarities of what I had read about ff and Peggy making the find and this other one under the floor has gotten me second guessing myself and what I was remembering. I am still confident that what I remember is basically correct. If anyone out there knows where to find the story about ff and Peggy finding the bowl please let me know. I don't recall ever reading that story as described. However, reading your comment did remind me of the following. Don't know if this is what you are looking for but, it's the closest thing that I can relate to your description. If this isn't what you are looking for, then Locolobo would be your best bet. If it's out there somewhere, that guy will come up with it. In the following, note that it was the flagstone that was broken into five pieces, and not the bowl itself. "While sitting on the floor and leaning against the south wall, I placed my cup of hot soup on the round piece of flagstone. It sounded a little empty and different from what I had subconsciously expected….………….. I carefully removed the five broken pieces of flagstone, one at a time……to our astonishment, we discovered a black, plain-ware jar that had been buried up to its rim under the floor. Inside the jar rested a rectangular, painted bowl, and both of them contained corn kernels…….” mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-friday-questions-on-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-buried-or-hidden/
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Post by lookinup on Dec 7, 2018 10:28:56 GMT -5
Yes; of course it is - Kind of like fragments of time I suppose.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Dec 7, 2018 17:38:19 GMT -5
I have tried to find the exact reference I used above and can't. The summary of what I was referring to was something ff said about walking in the woods with his wife Peggy. Basically he was telling a story about the two of them walking through the woods some years back in the mountains and stopping to rest for a minute. While resting on a log or laying down by a log he looked down and right next to him, at his side, was an old Indian ceramic bowl broken into 5 pieces. I will keep looking for the story and post once I find it. While I was looking, I came across the story about someone finding broken pottery after looking under a rock in the floor of and old cabin. The similarities of what I had read about ff and Peggy making the find and this other one under the floor has gotten me second guessing myself and what I was remembering. I am still confident that what I remember is basically correct. If anyone out there knows where to find the story about ff and Peggy finding the bowl please let me know. I don't recall ever reading that story as described. However, reading your comment did remind me of the following. Don't know if this is what you are looking for but, it's the closest thing that I can relate to your description. If this isn't what you are looking for, then Locolobo would be your best bet. If it's out there somewhere, that guy will come up with it. In the following, note that it was the flagstone that was broken into five pieces, and not the bowl itself. "While sitting on the floor and leaning against the south wall, I placed my cup of hot soup on the round piece of flagstone. It sounded a little empty and different from what I had subconsciously expected….………….. I carefully removed the five broken pieces of flagstone, one at a time……to our astonishment, we discovered a black, plain-ware jar that had been buried up to its rim under the floor. Inside the jar rested a rectangular, painted bowl, and both of them contained corn kernels…….” mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-friday-questions-on-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-buried-or-hidden/This sounds like a somewhat differently worded version of the story in TFTW about Forrest and Charmay finding the flagstone at San Lazaro Pueblo, eating their lunches, and then Charmay suggesting they remove the flagstone to see what's under it. (Turns out to be a pot buried up to its lip containing corn kernels, dead roly-poly bugs, and a rectangular basket, as I recall.) Some have suggested that this is a hint as to how the treasure is concealed since the illustrated basket has dimensions very similar to that of the bronze chest. If so, you can see why Forrest wouldn't say whether it's "buried" or not. Entombed in this case would be more accurate.
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Post by goldwatch on Dec 8, 2018 0:41:10 GMT -5
I don't recall ever reading that story as described. However, reading your comment did remind me of the following. Don't know if this is what you are looking for but, it's the closest thing that I can relate to your description. If this isn't what you are looking for, then Locolobo would be your best bet. If it's out there somewhere, that guy will come up with it. In the following, note that it was the flagstone that was broken into five pieces, and not the bowl itself. "While sitting on the floor and leaning against the south wall, I placed my cup of hot soup on the round piece of flagstone. It sounded a little empty and different from what I had subconsciously expected….………….. I carefully removed the five broken pieces of flagstone, one at a time……to our astonishment, we discovered a black, plain-ware jar that had been buried up to its rim under the floor. Inside the jar rested a rectangular, painted bowl, and both of them contained corn kernels…….” mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-friday-questions-on-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-buried-or-hidden/This sounds like a somewhat differently worded version of the story in TFTW about Forrest and Charmay finding the flagstone at San Lazaro Pueblo, eating their lunches, and then Charmay suggesting they remove the flagstone to see what's under it. (Turns out to be a pot buried up to its lip containing corn kernels, dead roly-poly bugs, and a rectangular basket, as I recall.) Some have suggested that this is a hint as to how the treasure is concealed since the illustrated basket has dimensions very similar to that of the bronze chest. If so, you can see why Forrest wouldn't say whether it's "buried" or not. Entombed in this case would be more accurate. Yes, you can plum the depths of the Chase to depths you never expected.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Dec 8, 2018 2:35:55 GMT -5
And in that TFTW chapter (I think called "Me and Charmay"?) how many noticed the Lorraine Cross-like object on the right hand page pointing at the same symbol on the basket on the left-hand page?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Dec 8, 2018 2:40:54 GMT -5
Actually, not so much a Cross of Lorraine as a Pueblo Cross (more relevant to someone with Forrest's interests). Note the similarity between a Pueblo Cross and a dragonfly: another favorite of Forrest's (as evidenced by its inclusion on some of his jars/bells).
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