mcb
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Post by mcb on Jan 21, 2019 14:56:05 GMT -5
Okay... I was lying in bed last night and my mind came up with a way to find the key phrase. It's going to take some time, but I'm positive it will work. Thinking outside of the box, I imagined "Why play by Jenny's rules, and solve it the way she engineered it!?" It suddenly dawned on me that, at this point in the process, I can REVERSE ENGINEER it! Stay tuned... this might take all day. REVERSE ENGINEER ..... this is how I came to the SRVWYULOKK sequence ...... doing the inverse path to the solution.
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banjo
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Post by banjo on Jan 21, 2019 17:23:11 GMT -5
KEYWORD: ENGINE nets the word "SOLVE". I then tried to translate with the end code and nada, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.
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jammy
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Post by jammy on Jan 21, 2019 19:50:13 GMT -5
I just realized that when I use a words starting with a letter T, it results in a letter Z. Statistically, that is probably wrong, which means whatever phrase we are looking for most likely does NOT start with a word beginning in the letter T.
I don't know if that helps....
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 21, 2019 22:18:47 GMT -5
I just realized that when I use a words starting with a letter T, it results in a letter Z. Statistically, that is probably wrong, which means whatever phrase we are looking for most likely does NOT start with a word beginning in the letter T. I don't know if that helps.... Yep, Jammy "most likely" correct, but you can't put it past Jenny to position a Z in the first position if there is a Z anywhere in Forrest's secret message. She has complete control to put it there if there is one in F's message. +I would if there was one.) It would certainly slow everyone down! (That said, no, I don't think there is a Z in Forrest's message, but I can't 100% discount the possibility)
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 21, 2019 22:25:32 GMT -5
KEYWORD: ENGINE nets the word "SOLVE". I then tried to translate with the end code and nada, but maybe I'm doing it wrong. Hi Banjo: there are rumours circulating that there are no Easter eggs hiding in a correct Vig decryption, which is why I haven't attached much significance to my find of WORDS generating WHATG. So I'm going the chi-squared route which will eventually slay this puzzle through a combination of computer brute force and Fenn/Kyle relevance.
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Post by harrytruman on Jan 22, 2019 0:51:32 GMT -5
KEYWORD: ENGINE nets the word "SOLVE". I then tried to translate with the end code and nada, but maybe I'm doing it wrong. Hi Banjo: there are rumours circulating that there are no Easter eggs hiding in a correct Vig decryption, which is why I haven't attached much significance to my find of WORDS generating WHATG. So I'm going the chi-squared route which will eventually slay this puzzle through a combination of computer brute force and Fenn/Kyle relevance. So those rumors also suggest that Vig is the actual, correct next step, then...?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 22, 2019 1:10:35 GMT -5
Hi Banjo: there are rumours circulating that there are no Easter eggs hiding in a correct Vig decryption, which is why I haven't attached much significance to my find of WORDS generating WHATG. So I'm going the chi-squared route which will eventually slay this puzzle through a combination of computer brute force and Fenn/Kyle relevance. So those rumors also suggest that Vig is the actual, correct next step, then...? Harry: I will try nothing else. No one else would have solved it if it isn't Vigenere.
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mcb
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Post by mcb on Jan 22, 2019 7:03:44 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that on the "Forgotten Word" page there is a sequence of numbers in the same pattern of the code on the last page of the book and also has blocks in sequence? Did you see that there's a key right next to these numbers? My understanding says that these numbers form the Vigenere key to the "Forgotten Word." Jenny said the two puzzles use similar methods. What if ... the code on the last page of the book is the Vigenere key to form Forrest's phrase? That seems a very plausible possibility.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 22, 2019 21:27:47 GMT -5
One Fenn-relevant word that scores well as the first word in Jenny's keyphrase is amusingly "BINOCULARS".
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Post by ironwill on Jan 24, 2019 21:12:09 GMT -5
Sorry I haven't had a chance to do what I said towards reverse engineering. It was in my plans but when I went to Walmart to get groceries...I started limping again. Something was wrong with me knee. So I went to the doctor and all that derailed my interest in this message. Hopefully it heals okay.
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Post by foolsgold on Jan 25, 2019 19:44:02 GMT -5
"I used to be an reverse engineer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee."
All jokes aside I feel your pain. I also hurt my knee (probably, meniscus and an interior ligament) while, coincidentally, downhill skiing in Santa Fe a few years ago. Pain comes and goes, disappearing at times, but I know it will come back to haunt me in the future. Hope you can get yours fixed and GL on the puzzle.
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Post by fennster on Jan 26, 2019 18:07:55 GMT -5
Anyone getting anywhere with this. I have also taken a little time off. It was too frustrating and life has gotten busy with work.
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Post by redraven on Jan 26, 2019 20:40:33 GMT -5
Hi everyone, new member. I too am stuck with what to do after deciphering the puzzle pieces. It seems there is one more layer of deciphering to do to get the proper arrangement of the letters before applying the number sequence (41, 10, 73, 22...) from the back of the book. I just can't figure out what it is.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 26, 2019 21:04:36 GMT -5
We've been told that when you have the correct keyphrase for decoding the result of the puzzle piece arrangement, there are no "confirmations" in the result -- presumably other than that it looks like scrambled English. So even though Jenny ~could~ have put a word or short phrase in here -- an Easter Egg if you will -- she didn't. So that tells me that her keyphrase doesn't start with "WORDS" because (as I wrote earlier) that decrypts to WHATG, and I'd call that a potential confirmation. Perhaps even more remarkable is that if the keyphrase starts with the word ONE, that decrypts to EIN -- i.e. "one" in German. The Chase loves to serve up its coincidences.
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Post by redraven on Jan 26, 2019 21:54:36 GMT -5
We've been told that when you have the correct keyphrase for decoding the result of the puzzle piece arrangement, there are no "confirmations" in the result -- presumably other than that it looks like scrambled English. So even though Jenny ~could~ have put a word or short phrase in here -- an Easter Egg if you will -- she didn't. So that tells me that her keyphrase doesn't start with "WORDS" because (as I wrote earlier) that decrypts to WHATG, and I'd call that a potential confirmation. Perhaps even more remarkable is that if the keyphrase starts with the word ONE, that decrypts to EIN -- i.e. "one" in German. The Chase loves to serve up its coincidences. Oh my goodness! A keyPHRASE?! I have been stuck on just keyWORDS this whole time with the cipher-ing of the letters. Oh my...this is going to take awhile. Thank you for letting me know.
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