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Post by Jenny on Dec 27, 2018 7:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by engr101 on Dec 27, 2018 8:32:49 GMT -5
Perhaps,
In range of His hourly chime. (Big Ben) Past bronze men, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guards_Memorial)
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Post by GeneticBlend on Dec 27, 2018 13:52:49 GMT -5
Here is what I think the poem refers to:
watchful eye = London Eye
His hourly chime = Big Ben
Past bronze men = From Big Ben, travel west past Parliment Square on Great George Street. You will pass 12 bronze statues of statesmen and notable individuals
Where bird and beast meet = this is the intersection of the two streets, Birdcage Walk and Horse Guards Road (bird + horse)
Take the road toward the five fallen = go down Horse Guards Road to the Horse Guards Memorial, this is the "five fallen"
I believe the tin is in Saint James Park. If you look behind the Horse Guards Memorial, you will see a grassy section where there is one lone tree. There is a walkway lined with wooden benches that have slats in them that are spaced apart, or the benches themselves are spaced apart from one another.
The lakes there in the park are known for its waterfowl...ducks and pelicans. This may be what the "sundry feathers" is about.
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Post by rarbowen on Dec 28, 2018 0:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by timebandit on Dec 31, 2018 21:41:01 GMT -5
Here is what I think the poem refers to: watchful eye = London Eye His hourly chime = Big Ben Past bronze men = From Big Ben, travel west past Parliment Square on Great George Street. You will pass 12 bronze statues of statesmen and notable individuals Where bird and beast meet = this is the intersection of the two streets, Birdcage Walk and Horse Guards Road (bird + horse) Take the road toward the five fallen = go down Horse Guards Road to the Horse Guards Memorial, this is the "five fallen" I believe the tin is in Saint James Park. If you look behind the Horse Guards Memorial, you will see a grassy section where there is one lone tree. There is a walkway lined with wooden benches that have slats in them that are spaced apart, or the benches themselves are spaced apart from one another. The lakes there in the park are known for its waterfowl...ducks and pelicans. This may be what the "sundry feathers" is about.
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Post by timebandit on Dec 31, 2018 21:52:56 GMT -5
Good sleuthing GB..."Beyond morning's shadow" may indicate the park as you surmise, which is 'west' of the Guards Memorial. The single lone tree is beside the "round" platform at the "edge' of the "grassy field" towards Buckingham Palace. The "round" platform is where pigeons are fed. Think "sundry feathers" refers to this pigeon feeding area as it's just beside this lone tree. Tin is probably at the base on the west side of the tree trunk, also "morning's shadow". Wish I was there with a metal detector!
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Post by GeneticBlend on Dec 31, 2018 23:49:58 GMT -5
I wish I knew someone who could go look!
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Post by firesnake on Jan 2, 2019 10:02:49 GMT -5
I like the idea of this hunt – it looks like it can only really work as a community led hunt considering it is spread over 1,000s of miles. I could go to London if time and money were not an obstacle. I live under an hour away and it costs £30+ just to get there and back (!) but I'm intrigued about what lay waiting in the final tin.
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Post by firesnake on Jan 2, 2019 10:12:17 GMT -5
... If I do head there, then thanks to GeneticBlend, I'll definitely let you know first if I find the tin!
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 2, 2019 10:22:23 GMT -5
Well, my solve seems good to me, but as anyone who works on these armchair hunts knows, once you get there, things might not be as they seem.
I feel confident in my solve up to the last part (the exact tree). But if one were on location, and the tin wasn't at that tree, at least you could search the area.
If you go, good luck! And please report back to us if you find the tin or not.
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Post by Jenny on Jan 2, 2019 11:10:41 GMT -5
I think many agree and came up with this location.....
It's possible someone might be able to search relatively soon.... I've chatted with someone who knows the area very well... and Metal Detecting is not permitted.
So in the Six Questions being asked, one is 'can the tin be found without a metal detector?' Most places do not allow the use of one...
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 2, 2019 13:21:21 GMT -5
Good question! This area is close to Buckingham Palace. So it will most likely be a difficult place to go digging. It seems to be a very popular place too. I will be curious to see the answers to your questions.
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Post by Mark Foster on Jan 2, 2019 18:31:55 GMT -5
Quick update for everyone. I just got back from St James's Park and the tree in question. I didn't find the tin. A few thoughts: I am not convinced that it is by this tree that was first pinpointed. I went equipped with knitting needles for probing and some trowels for digging. However, I didn't hit the tin with the knitting needles. I tried every spot west of the tree trunk that looked like it could have been freshly dug, and probed for almost an hour but I didn't hit anything that felt like a tin. So, if it is this tree, either it is deeper than 6-7 inches (as far as I could probe) or I was just unlucky. Once I moved on I discovered something else. If you go due West from the Monument ('morning shadow' direction) you come to a newish building (Inn the Park) made from tree trunks and the front is a semicircle (round?). It is a restaurant/café. Inside it has seats that definitely look 'splayed'. The building could also be said to look like a 'shed' ('shed leaves'). Now, there looks to be a roof terrace that is to be grassed over (a field?) and on the map there seems to be a single tree up there. So, I wonder if that is the tree in question. Might be a fun choice. I have a hunch that if this is the place then the 'sundry feathers' line may make sense when up there. The roof is closed at night, so I could not get up there. It looks like someone would have to go up in the daytime. Failing that, as Timebandit said, there is a piece of grass just past this cafe that contains one tree. However, I couldn't find anything here either. The ground has recently been returfed near the tree so there are lots of pieces of broken ground and it was impossible for me to test them all without a detector. Here is the map showing where the Inn The Park cafe is, and the roof terrace. Attachment DeletedHere are the 'splayed seats' inside the 'shed': Attachment Deleted
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Post by Mark Foster on Jan 2, 2019 18:36:53 GMT -5
One last addition: going back to the original tree that was highlighted, if you look on the ground just east of the Tree you see the following on the ground. Attachment DeletedIt is made of small, sawn pieces of wood that have been pushed into the ground a little. The whole things looks to almost draw the number '2'. Could be a coincidence, but I thought it was very odd. I probed here quite extensively, but didn't hit anything. Thoughts?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 2, 2019 20:57:57 GMT -5
Thanks for posting your trip report. Interesting. I don't know what to make of it. If the tin isn't near the tree discussed, you must be close...in the same area at least.
The rooftop tree would be an interesting choice, but usually treasure setters don't choose places that aren't open 24 hours, or places that you would have to pay to get in, or go to purchase something. But the setter makes the rules, so they can do anything they want.
Perhaps Jenny could ask if these areas are accessible 24 hours a day, and if they are free or if there is any paid admission or purchase required.
And in all of the cases, is the tin buried, or could it just be hidden? (Like wedged in the branches of the tree?)
How far are you from this location? I hope you didn't have to travel far.
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