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Post by LeonardoDecapitated on Mar 26, 2019 8:50:23 GMT -5
IMO, Most people are making this way too Hard... Forrest says: --> Few are in tight focus with a word that is Key.. <-- This line is really nothing more than a riddle.. The "word that is key" by itself is really nothing, and won't solve a thing.. It's more of what you do with the word, that is the true key to unlocking the puzzle... I bet ff sits at his computer and chuckles at all of this every day (you know he's watching), as he is just constantly playing with our heads.. Most of these little lines that Forrest says about the chase, are always well thought out, and always have some type of puzzle solving meaning to them, but most of the time it's hard to figure out, just what that meaning is... BTW, the "word that is key" is used above.. >8^) I agree with most of what you said, but how can you be sure we are making this too hard? The man took 15 years to craft a 166 word poem and there are probably layers of “decoding“ to do within the poem, much like Jenny's armchair treasure hunts. How are you sure that you have the correct keyword? In other words what confirmation do you have to know that you are correct? Yes Forrest has said simplify, get back in the box etc. but he has said a lot of things. I think until it found it is worth investigating all possibilities. When he says give the poem to a child it does not necessarily mean it’s easy to crack, there are double and triple meanings in everything he says. There is no way I was saying the poem is easy.. Ha, if that was the case I'd have the treasure.. I was more implying, I thought people were making this "word that is key" too hard to solve.. First of all, keep in mind these are just my thoughts, and I could very well be wrong, but this is how I came up with what I think is the Keyword.. To begin with, have a look at this riddle (word puzzle) that Forrest gave us, in a few different ways... What if the line Few are in tight focus with "A word" that is key... instead said Few are in tight focus with "B word" that is key... or Few are in tight focus with "C word" that is key... I think reading the lines in these slightly different ways, gives them different meaning.. It's an Abbreviating thing.. To me, this "A word" in the sentence is saying the Keyword, is a word that starts with the letter "A".. Then there's the fact that ff put the somewhat odd words "tight focus" along with "few" in the riddle as well.... These are little hints, put right there in plain sight.. Classic ff having his fun, playing with words.. I think "tight focus" and "few" mean, the word is small (tight focus) with not many (few) letters.. Thus, the keyword is a small word, that begins with the letter A I don't want to actually mention what I think this keyword is, but I will say the word I'm thinking of, ends with _ND I've always thought this "A word" theory worked very well with another remark ff once made about the Blaze.. ff was asked something along the lines, Is the Blaze was a Physical thing?.. The answer ff gave was.. In "A" word, Yes.. Again, these are just my thoughts on the "Word that is Key" And I couldn't agree more, until someone has the treasure in hand, Everything said is just a theory.. Good Luck everyone! |
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 26, 2019 9:51:46 GMT -5
I agree with most of what you said, but how can you be sure we are making this too hard? The man took 15 years to craft a 166 word poem and there are probably layers of “decoding“ to do within the poem, much like Jenny's armchair treasure hunts. How are you sure that you have the correct keyword? In other words what confirmation do you have to know that you are correct? Yes Forrest has said simplify, get back in the box etc. but he has said a lot of things. I think until it found it is worth investigating all possibilities. When he says give the poem to a child it does not necessarily mean it’s easy to crack, there are double and triple meanings in everything he says. There is no way I was saying the poem is easy.. Ha, if that was the case I'd have the treasure.. I was more implying, I thought people were making this "word that is key" too hard to solve.. First of all, keep in mind these are just my thoughts, and I could very well be wrong, but this is how I came up with what I think is the Keyword.. To begin with, have a look at this riddle (word puzzle) that Forrest gave us, in a few different ways... What if the line Few are in tight focus with "A word" that is key... instead said Few are in tight focus with "B word" that is key... or Few are in tight focus with "C word" that is key... I think reading the lines in these slightly different ways, gives them different meaning.. It's an Abbreviating thing.. To me, this "A word" in the sentence is saying the Keyword, is a word that starts with the letter "A".. Then there's the fact that ff put the somewhat odd words "tight focus" along with "few" in the riddle as well.... These are little hints, put right there in plain sight.. Classic ff having his fun, playing with words.. I think "tight focus" and "few" mean, the word is small (tight focus) with not many (few) letters.. Thus, the keyword is a small word, that begins with the letter A I don't want to actually mention what I think this keyword is, but I will say the word I'm thinking of, ends with _ND I've always thought this "A word" theory works very well with another remark ff once made, about what the Blaze was.. ff was once asked something along the lines, Is the Blaze was a Physical thing?.. the answer ff gave was.. In "A" word, Yes.. Again, these are just my thoughts on the "Word that is Key" And I couldn't agree more, until someone has the treasure in hand, everything said is just a theory.. Thanks for your explanation Leo. I was just curious to know how you know your key word is correct. Many people believe they have the correct key word and have made it work in their solution, much like the 9 clues in the poem, masterfully crafted into their solution. With all of the interpretations out there, what are we all missing? There are a lot of smart people (and not so smart) trying to figure this out. Is there some other reason why nobody, to our knowledge, has solved this yet? This is what stumps me. I do believe there is a key, I just don't know what it is. If I did know it, I believe I would know where the chest is. |
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Post by Jeff on Mar 26, 2019 10:15:24 GMT -5
Maybe everyone could just share their keywords and how to use them; see my above example. IMO, its like sharing lottery numbers. In a strange way, I hope someone finds the chest using the information that I posted, then I can get back to going outside and spending time with my family. Hi Van, I want to preface this with the statement that I'm kind of clueless as I'm new-ish and I'm sorry to admit that I haven't investigated what this "key" thing is or where it came from or what we're supposed to do with it, and I apologize for talking about something when silence would have been more appropriate.
Well, with that big caveat in place, in my reading so far (limited almost entirely to TTOTC so far) I have come across Roc ky Mountains. The only other key thing I readily remember is a picture of the key next to the box in Gold and More. Getting back to Rock-key, there are quite a few rock references in TTOTC (and apparently beyond) as, for example, recently discussed in this thread. Some are six sigma type references. Others are just odd--such as the apparent non-sequitur of a picture in The Long Ride Home--the one captioned "Skippy holding a rock." About this picture and caption Fenn could have easily asked his question from First Grade: "what was that all about anyway?" I have no idea.
Next I'm confronted with all the with all this talk about teeth (again, no idea where that's coming from; I immediately can't seem to place teeth anywhere in TTOTC aside from the stretch of Fenn's mother not biting a hard biscuit despite being hungry). Then someone added "teeth of the Rockies," so is the teeth business now another way to get at the key business in the context of Rock-key, seeing as keys have teeth?
That's my uninformed and not very well thought out fraction of a cent that doesn't really answer any questions and probably is as much of a non-sequitur as that picture of Skippy. How's that for being an internet citizen? I'd say par for the course! But more to the general idea you brought up, yes I will share my (hopefully better, more substantiated) thoughts as they crystallize.
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Post by LeonardoDecapitated on Mar 26, 2019 11:47:53 GMT -5
Thanks for your explanation Leo. I was just curious to know how you know your key word is correct. Many people believe they have the correct key word and have made it work in their solution, much like the 9 clues in the poem, masterfully crafted into their solution. With all of the interpretations out there, what are we all missing? There are a lot of smart people (and not so smart) trying to figure this out. Is there some other reason why nobody, to our knowledge, has solved this yet? This is what stumps me. I do believe there is a key, I just don't know what it is. If I did know it, I believe I would know where the chest is.
Goldilocks
There is no way of knowing 100% sure that it's the right Key word,
but to me it sure seems to be the right fit for both, the riddle and the poem..
The word does work well in playing with and into other words around it,
and it is in the poem I believe 10 times, leaving lots of possibilities..
The really bad part of this whole Chase is this..
Even mostly solved, I think that the Poem could still be matched to fit 100's of places
in the Rocky Mountains, and until someone actually has the Loot, everything is just a guess..
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Post by CJ on Mar 26, 2019 14:27:05 GMT -5
I've said it before - and many disagree - but imho - it's blaze.
Is the blaze a single object? "In a word, yes."
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Post by van on Mar 26, 2019 16:28:03 GMT -5
Jeff, Thanks for the posting. I have not tried to use Rock-key before, I will give it a try. If you see my other posts I have Flathead lake as WWWH and Tea Kettle Mt as HOB. The canyon to Tea Kettle is Bad Rock canyon; kind of surprised that no-one asked, lol. If you look at the torn/older matrix that I posted, the word "Bad" appears but no "Rock". I wish there would have been a "Rock". As far as "Teeth", it comes from the 2019 Mysterious Writings Q&A with FF. Each year Jenny gets to submit questions to FF that he answers (in writing). Many searchers believe (including me) there are hints in his answers. You many want to take time to read all of the past Q&As. There are also "scrap books" or blogs that FF puts out, dalneitzel.com/forrests-scrapbooks/. I believe in one of these scrap books, FF mentions that he likes to put his tooth brushes in the dishwasher, which searchers like to talk about (a lot). Maybe his tooth brush is like a fork; in the river, lol. |
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Post by npsbuilder on Mar 26, 2019 19:15:18 GMT -5
As I was reading this thread I started thinking what word is "really" key to me. I have thrown many out there with my thinking behind it. They all fit with that thinking behind it in mind.
One word that seems to work best, in my opinion "now", is LED or LEAD in many different ways. These words have many different uses including element Pb and other related elements that helps with a "consistent" train of thought.
1. As I have... - Led
2. Begin it where... - Lead shield
3. From there take.. - Lead
4. Put in below... - Lead tarnished
5. From there it's... - Lead Acid Battery
6. The end is... - Nickle Cadmium Battery
7. There'll be no... - Lead
8. Just heavy loads... - Insulated Submarine Fiber Optic cable
9. If you've been... - Silicon (Atomic number is 14. Follow the magnetic line to the 1st letter of the poem)
10. Look quickly down... - Galena (also called Lead Glance)
11. But tarry scant... - Lead
12. Just take the... - Led
Now with this train of thought in mind, figuring out the correct word to replace all the Leads above with is for all here to discuss. Most likely just another Rabbit Hole that gives another nugget of something interesting to you.
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 27, 2019 7:50:01 GMT -5
So how are you using THE?
FF implies there are 5 keys; below is his quote from 2018 Q&A. I believe I have found four keys. Hint, Torn, Older, Eyes. There are patterns also, but I don't consider them keywords. I have recently found how to use Torn and Older together, but they resulted in the same Key word that I found using the NININ pattern. Flathead. I am guessing Flathead has significant meaning. Sorry, cant figure out how to make the pics bigger.
Van, could your key word be 'in'? look up the word and be amazed at how many definitions this tiny word has. I am beginning to think this is the key word. Now look at F's answer to the blaze question and read it this way..."In, a word, yes". The first clue in a crossword solver for the word in is "at home" (see star comments under "seriously..." thread). "read the clues 'in' my poem...", Make all the lines cross 'in' the right spot... 'In' could be a contender! The thing that really got me thinking about this word was MEH's new video analyzing the first stanza, "As I have gone alone in there". For me in doesn't mean in a small space but could give that line an entirely different meaning. |
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Post by CJ on Mar 27, 2019 9:14:53 GMT -5
I still like blaze - BUT - since you mentioned the "A" word that is key, Oh (I think) had long ago suggested that "As" meant "to a degree", and that this was very important due to it's suggestion of coordinates. In looking it up, I see it says "to the same degree", when used in a different context - "as long as", "as short as", so I'm not so sure about that one.
I will also make note that in one of the 6 questions series, he did answer a question by saying "The key word is contentment." He wasn't referring to the poem at that time, so that, like so many things that he said, may mean nothing, or may have been said to send us down another rabbit hole.
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Post by CJ on Mar 28, 2019 12:23:00 GMT -5
I'm trying really hard not to go back to the crossword/acrostic ideas Van - but you're tempting me.....I have a pretty large workbook of these somewhere.
You might be interested to learn that there are something like 43+ places in Wyoming (mainly cities like pinedale, lander, kirwin, but also think place names like Yellowstone, etc..) that can be spelled out without re-using any letters...not sure if that works for the other states.
Also, if I remember correctly, imagination, guts and logic (maybe just those, maybe hard work, or something else), could be spelled out on many lines of the poem which was interesting...maybe at least once per stanza?
I'll look around for my workbook.
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Post by Bownarrow on Jul 3, 2019 8:00:51 GMT -5
Word = Nuntius(L.) = Messenger
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Post by heidini on Jul 3, 2019 8:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Bownarrow on Jul 3, 2019 8:23:08 GMT -5
There's no rattle up my creak!  |
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Post by heidini on Jul 3, 2019 8:45:19 GMT -5
“Many are giving serious thought to the clues in my poem, but only a few are in tight focus with a word that is key.”
It is not the “key word.” It is a “word that is key.”
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Post by Bownarrow on Jul 3, 2019 10:09:04 GMT -5
“Many are giving serious thought to the clues in my poem, but only a few are in tight focus with a word that is key.” It is not the “key word.” It is a “word that is key.”
"a word that is key" = un(F.) nuntius(L.) th at is ke y = one a messenger (indefinite article is understood in L.) th e(B.) is ke the(W.) = mia(G.) a messenger the is theke = friend a messenger the is box(G.) = cara(Ga.) a messenger the is box = arca a messenger the is box = box(L.) a messenger the is box = the box is a messenger box
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