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Apr 11, 2019 8:46:35 GMT -5
Post by rarbowen on Apr 11, 2019 8:46:35 GMT -5
I have spent so much time, off and on, over the years on Neptune's Beard. Does anyone have anything definitive about it? I can see some numbers or letters, but can not figure them out. Also, Do you think that is a brown leather strap with a buckle that the end of the key is on? Plus, what's up with that nose? I have studied this illustration until I am blind. I really feel there is something there, but I am to the giving up point.
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Apr 11, 2019 9:25:55 GMT -5
Post by mdhann30 on Apr 11, 2019 9:25:55 GMT -5
Hi Rarbowen, I see some shapes at the bottom of his beard, but nothing definitive. It does appear that he is wearing a brown sash with a buckle, but the chain(on the key) doesn't appear to go towards the sash. His nose is definitely odd, actually, all of the male characters have an odd looking nose. What I see on this page is "sea my rules". Two of the dolphins are pointing to sea and my, the third dolphin appears to be pointing at the S. If you notice there is a tailing outside of the border pointing at a space after the word Rule, which happens to be diagonal to the S. When you look at the rules the only thing that jumps out, to me, is the start and end dates. The start date happens to be the 150th day of the year and the end date is the 330th day of the year. To me, those two numbers are important. First, why does the middle dolphin have a dorsal fin and the other two do not. There is also an arrow shaped red mark, diamond inside of it, pointing towards the fin on the middle dolphin. Next, Neptune is holding a Clown fish next to the fin. To me, the "C" in clown fish paired with the fin suggests a center point. If you place a compass on that center point you will find that at 330degrees and 150degrees form a straight line through the middle point of the trident and hit the letter "D", while the other end hits the star point head on. What I can't figure out is if this is a clue telling us what to do further on in the story or something truly significant to the solve? I hope this helps!!!
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Apr 11, 2019 11:15:51 GMT -5
Post by stiparest on Apr 11, 2019 11:15:51 GMT -5
I have spent so much time, off and on, over the years on Neptune's Beard. Does anyone have anything definitive about it? I can see some numbers or letters, but can not figure them out. Also, Do you think that is a brown leather strap with a buckle that the end of the key is on? Plus, what's up with that nose? I have studied this illustration until I am blind. I really feel there is something there, but I am to the giving up point. rarbowen,
I agree that his nose is weird - it looks more like a finger was pasted on! Yes, that is a leather strap with a buckle (for a while I thought it was a picture frame!). As far as the beard, I had a thought once that key/beard was a rebus for keyboard. There are 2 keyboards on page 11. On the Fire page, the KEBO sign goes under the border next to the R, so KEBO-R(D) could be another reference to keyboards, or these all could be hints that the 'key' is in the borders. I've also examined the beard and I'm not convinced there is any useful information in all those swirls of floating beard.
Any thoughts on that crown?
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Apr 11, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
Hi Rarbowen, I see some shapes at the bottom of his beard, but nothing definitive. It does appear that he is wearing a brown sash with a buckle, but the chain(on the key) doesn't appear to go towards the sash. His nose is definitely odd, actually, all of the male characters have an odd looking nose. What I see on this page is "sea my rules". Two of the dolphins are pointing to sea and my, the third dolphin appears to be pointing at the S. If you notice there is a tailing outside of the border pointing at a space after the word Rule, which happens to be diagonal to the S. When you look at the rules the only thing that jumps out, to me, is the start and end dates. The start date happens to be the 150th day of the year and the end date is the 330th day of the year. To me, those two numbers are important. First, why does the middle dolphin have a dorsal fin and the other two do not. There is also an arrow shaped red mark, diamond inside of it, pointing towards the fin on the middle dolphin. Next, Neptune is holding a Clown fish next to the fin. To me, the "C" in clown fish paired with the fin suggests a center point. If you place a compass on that center point you will find that at 330degrees and 150degrees form a straight line through the middle point of the trident and hit the letter "D", while the other end hits the star point head on. What I can't figure out is if this is a clue telling us what to do further on in the story or something truly significant to the solve? I hope this helps!!! I like the part about seeing which day of the year corresponds to the start and end dates. It was noted some time ago that the duration of the puzzle (including the start and end dates, along with four leap days) is exactly 4,900 days, which is a perfect square (of 70). This is probably a subtle hint about the importance of identifying and using square grids. There are several: the 4x4 grids on pages 11,17, and 40 (all linked), and the two 5x5 Polybius squares. June 29 is actually day 180, not 150. This might be one more pi allusion. November 26 is ordinarily day 330, although if one wants to be picky, it's day 331 in 2020. 330, of course, is the number of colored star points (66 x 5).
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Apr 11, 2019 12:06:29 GMT -5
Post by mdhann30 on Apr 11, 2019 12:06:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the correction, I never was a great typist. LOL. Still, there are multiple illustrations with a "C" or "SEA" somewhere on the pages. I feel that the use of a compass is needed to form a direction or definitive location. Any thoughts??
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Apr 11, 2019 16:31:53 GMT -5
Post by rarbowen on Apr 11, 2019 16:31:53 GMT -5
I agree with almost everything you all have written, and I especially believe it tells us to “see my rules.”
With that being said, I still have some questions: Does the clasp of the chain look as if it is broken? Do you agree that, even though we don’t have a great picture of the chain, it appears to be a “link” chain? A chain is also a unit of length in surveying, although quite antiquated now. There are definitely either some numbers or letters in the beard, and all I can see clearly is a 3. There is something before that, but I can’t say what. Or is it an SB? Or an Sp? Does it really matter if we can’t see it well enough to figure out? The whole reason I came back to the beard is because it seemed over and over we kept getting the “face” clue. I began to wonder if the authors were telling us to look closer at the faces in the book. So, I spent some time doing that, and have found some interesting things in some of them. But here we have a guy with an extremely strange beard with all kinds of things going on in it, and yet I can make nothing of it. I don’t think I will give up on it for a while.
The midpoint of the page is a tiny spot at the beginning of Neptune’s left ring finger where the dorsal fin touches the finger. The midsection goes exactly through the sharp point of the crown, between the two little green points, and at the bottom, through the center of the diamond-shaped blow-hole through the M where the black and white meet. The other side goes through the center dot mentioned above, to the outside of the N on the left, and about ½” from the T on the right side. I’m not getting anything of interest by using that point or lines with a compass. I, too, found it interesting on the day count of the beginning June 29, 2007 date being 180 days from the beginning of that year , and the ending date “on” Nov. 26, 2020 being 330 days into the year when the puzzle ends. On any year, there are 150 days between the two dates.
I appreciate all the comments. It helps to know that it just isn’t my eyes and brain that can not figure that beard out, and we also have some different things to ponder. Maybe we should do this to all the pages and see what we come up with!
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Apr 11, 2019 18:28:14 GMT -5
Post by mdhann30 on Apr 11, 2019 18:28:14 GMT -5
I think that I can see a three and maybe a "p" or "b" at the bottom of his beard.
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Apr 13, 2019 23:35:36 GMT -5
Post by rarbowen on Apr 13, 2019 23:35:36 GMT -5
At least I don't see eels as seen on page 15 and written about on page 38!
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Apr 14, 2019 6:30:43 GMT -5
Post by astree on Apr 14, 2019 6:30:43 GMT -5
At least I don't see eels as seen on page 15 and written about on page 38! Im just curious if anyone else has thought about the possible connection between the LEE (eel) side of something and the cliffs shown?
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