Post by inatimate1 on May 15, 2019 11:16:21 GMT -5
I can't find any other references apart from the ones you've mentioned, also the term "Split" from the stanza above is a bowling reference as well. I was initially thinking that the first key was made up of a 10 character code but the bowling theory really does fit with everything!
Post by illuminatinps on May 19, 2019 13:27:58 GMT -5
Im with TxTH on the pins. Being in the Fire Dept and knowing the ins and out of locking sytems, I feel this first is basically saying the first key is either 10 or twenty pieces or "characters" (numbers/letters). The term to "cut a key" is basically the cutting of the blank key itself to match the pins in the lock. The first piece is possibly a phone number because "the piece will call a place". thats a 10 digit number.
Two keys unlock the chest of gold That’s made of ones and zeroes And the one that holds them both Will be the thousand dollar hero The first key is quite standard Ten cuts, ten pins and turn But the key is split in three And must be put together first
This to me implies we need a key (digital or physical).
A three piece key doesn't make sense unless the clue refers to a web address. Web addresses are made up of three pieces WWW.ABC.COM, FTP.FILES.NET ABC.ABC.TV etc etc.
Im pretty certain that we are looking for a web address.
That will make narrowing down solutions to the three parts much easier as we know generally piece one usually has three characters and piece three usually has two or three characters
So my take on the 2nd stanza is it refers to finding a web address and we find that by solving stanza's 3, 4 and 5
As far as I am concerned theres's nothing more to be done here with this stanza we know we are looking a web address
Post by thecoywonder on Jun 27, 2019 23:17:08 GMT -5
The first key is quite standard
Ten cuts, ten pins and turn
But the key is split in three
And must be put together first
I'm in agreement regarding a 10 character web address or IP address. I'm basing that on how key pins are considered a numbered combination. My son mentioned that Lukas made a point to include the "cuts" in the line, so it could potentially be 20 characters we are hunting for. He thinks 10 characters including www.XXXX.com (10) is pretty short for three stanzas of poem being dedicated to it, and I have to agree.
I also am onboard with the three pieces of the key concept. Stanza 3 being piece 1. Stanza 4 being piece 2. Stanza 5 being piece 3. All culminating into the first key. I'm leaning on a domain name that we need to add www. and .com to. www.XXXXXXXXXX.com or www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com
I know I'm not really saying anything new, but humor me, this helps me think. Hah.
Post by thecoywonder on Jul 2, 2019 13:12:34 GMT -5
I know we've moved on past this stanza, but I tend to go back and look over the past before progressing in my personal process.
Keys and Locks by Design
Regarding the 10 character key based on a standard key design, I more firmly believe we are looking for a 10 character first key comprised of three pieces of data. Here's why...
The key’s code, or the blade cut, is made to match the tumbler found in the lock itself. Pins with different lengths move into alignment to accommodate the key’s cut, either preventing opening or allowing access to the lock. Cuts inside the keyway, usually called wards by locksmiths, restrict the opening of the lock to a particular key which can be used inside the keyway of the lock. Once the right key is completely inserted, the pins align, and the cylinder will rotate to allow access. The flat and smaller keys available today, the ones with serrated edges, are used for the double pin-acting tumbler lock. The common key was the invention of Linus Yale Jr. back in the year 1861. He expanded on the original pin-tumbler design made by his father during the 1840s. Source: tinyurl.com/y2hpu7lj
So, to understand this fully, a key has 10 cuts that must align with the lock's 10 pins to turn and open. Previously, I mentioned that maybe we are looking at 20 characters based on thinking cuts and pins were the high points and low points on a key - a misunderstanding on my behalf. Realizing the key has cuts and the lock has pins assures me a 10 character key will open the 10 pin lock, in our case a web address or IP address.
A caveat regarding an IP Address as a solution, it has 4 parts instead of three, so it can't be the first key. An IP address would have to be the first and second key joined. (eg. 22.214.171.124 ) This may rule out an IP address for a solution.
Forgive the rehash, but this is how I think things through.
Post by elysethecat on Jul 8, 2019 13:32:53 GMT -5
Any new ideas here?
I think this may be a really important stanza when it comes to assembling the first key. I've tried anagraming some of the phrases, like "quite standard" to see if anything interesting came up.
I've also been thinking about cuts and pins for the last few days. Maybe cuts are 1s and pins are 0s, based on shape? Of course this doesn't even begin to work with binary because of the 8-character format. Cuts could also be slashes and pins could be dots, like periods or colons, as previously mentioned in this thread. And turn, (TURN!?!) what does it even mean?
I'm aware that a physical standard key has cuts and the lock has pins, but I was trying to see how this terminology would work with a digital key in three parts.
For a little fun, "Quite Standard" anagrams into "a dns ID quartet" although I'm fairly sure that wasn't intentional. That's just called, someone (me) is quite desperate to fit the narrative. Hahaha!
ten cuts - an album with 10 tracks (Dearborn is one such album) ten pins - bowling/Turkey turn - (I thought I got this with 'Hell is round the CORNER' but hell.tm appears to be dead and there is no such domain hell.am or hell.tr)
I still think though its the best theory so far suggested. I have tried to think of others but none work or come close to being as logical