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Post by captnkush on Dec 20, 2019 6:07:16 GMT -5
blog.goldeneaglecoin.com/mcmlxxxvi-gold-coin/ more on what i was suggesting earlier eagle/turkey connected please note that these 4 eagles all have a turkey within them xxx possible using the roman numerals astride or the turkey or beside .i think that the bonus clue really fits here as a addendum . Many treasures are marked with an x THIS one is no different x marks the spot. Also remember he mentioned in one question sombody asked. If you feel translation is needed there are lots of tools that will do that. Maybe that was hint at these roman numerals. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(Saint-Gaudens) now check this out ...remember he said there would be confirmations along the way to let us know were on the right track(please note my solve for 313) diana is the roman version of Artemis and interestingly as you can see on top of the photo 2nd version (next plus two?) Saint Gaudens same sculptor for gold eagle . Thats alot of coin cidence . I really wish someone would help me brainstorm this angle .
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Post by keladry12 on Dec 21, 2019 14:43:25 GMT -5
blog.goldeneaglecoin.com/mcmlxxxvi-gold-coin/ more on what i was suggesting earlier eagle/turkey connected please note that these 4 eagles all have a turkey within them xxx possible using the roman numerals astride or the turkey or beside .i think that the bonus clue really fits here as a addendum . Many treasures are marked with an x THIS one is no different x marks the spot. Also remember he mentioned in one question sombody asked. If you feel translation is needed there are lots of tools that will do that. Maybe that was hint at these roman numerals. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(Saint-Gaudens) now check this out ...remember he said there would be confirmations along the way to let us know were on the right track(please note my solve for 313) diana is the roman version of Artemis and interestingly as you can see on top of the photo 2nd version (next plus two?) Saint Gaudens same sculptor for gold eagle . Thats alot of coin cidence . I really wish someone would help me brainstorm this angle . From your first link, Saint Gaudens didn't make the coins that had the turkey on it, right? I think this might be a true coincidence, but am willing to consider it some more... 😊
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Post by captnkush on Dec 22, 2019 18:38:57 GMT -5
to answer simply no . he was not personally involved with those 4 coins. i am really going to try my best to illustrate alot here so please bear with me as some of this is going to be rehash but also i wanna show how depending on your particular path you could end up with one of those 4 possibilities. The way i see it is kinda a marriage of ideas here. First on a very surface level without considering any other information this stanza just sounds like a treasure hunt all on its own. (side note the only place in the poem that the word treasure is used ) .what does every treasure hunter want ? GOLD. Ok so next, the bowling angle : breaking down each thing : now alot of at least originally saw many connections here 10 pin, spare even "astride" kinda fits if you add a space it would describe how you throw the ball( you dont walk or run) then we come to" Turkey" as a bird thats rarely thrown but really a Turkey in bowling is somewhat common while the " golden turkey" (perfect game is much more rare). the biggest problem is just in terms of bowling how to get a specific number ? add score ...well if i was lucky enough to get a turkey it would probably have gutter balls either b4 or after and could be different for someone else .Who's bowling? if your thinking golden turkey well you get a result there but it doesnt quite fit everything else. now with those 4 coins i suggested it would fit alot here on the bowling angle turkey or golden turkey both fit providing a route to a specific. Ok so next up the coin or money angle : so starting with astride when thinking of U.S. money . The United States Of America is written astride just about every coin . How patriotic a treasure on its own! more on this in a sec. also you got "spare no expense" either implying rare money or if spend money youll find that bird ,if your searching you money youll find that bird. also you rarely throw your money around. ok but again a similar problem how to get specific also doesnt quite fit everything......or does it? the gold eagle . Theadoore Rosevelt originally commissioned Augustus Saint Guadens to kinda revamp american coinage as at the time he felt most it fell flat on really expressing who we are or how much we had grown as a nation.( side note Theadoore Roosevelt was also famously involved in oak island treasure hunt) now there were several complications on original production wich ultimately led to certain versions of this coin being worth more than a million bucks, some being upwards of 44 thousand . these eagles are some of the most sought after by collectors all over the world.(definatley fits spare no expense) Now all gold eagles have a value of more than there denomination and are collectible but if you end up here then go the next plus two that will put you right in range of those 4 coins i suggested. Next up and my personal favorite Forrest Fenn : starting with astride , seperate the a and were back to describing a type of walk. Foresst Fen has publicly stated alot of his motivation behind his hunt was to get people outside and off of there devices , go for a walk with your family and if you dont find my treasure you might find being out in nature is a treasure on its own. next the rest of this stanza really describes the atmosphere surrounding this hunt . People have gone nuts over this thing here in the states. over 350000 people actively searching 4 people dead . literally people are searching everywhere and sparing no expense. also it could be said that Forrest himself has spared no expense when putting together this hunt just with the treasure itself . now finally one the most noteable items in this chest are 265 gold eagles . now i"ve tried to search quite a bit to find specifally wich ones are in there with no luck but i have the book and on the cover front and back there are some pics and all i can tell you for sure there not rarest versions. could possible be the ones without roman numerals for dates wich would mean the next plus two could be pointing to those 4 coins again. (side note Lukas does mention Forrest as being a inspiration for this hunt in six questions). ok so now with all that said : the bonus hint also fits perfectly with all this as its not a solve but we got at least 5 eagles with a x the 4 on that link 1 special edition saint guadens , a golden turkey xxxxxxxxxx, a hint at oak island . i would definatley say thats many treasures marked with an x and because we need one with three x's the hint is not a solve. now i belive that using these together definately will ultimately lead to one conclusion. but using them independantly could also get you there. please mind the typos im not a writer and that was a mouth full. i've got question or two that could easily validate this one specifically that even if im completely wrong would still eliminate a few possibilties. best approach would be simply be asking if taking stanza 4 independantly would the first digit be a 9? if no the we know its btwn 2 and 8 and if yes any theories that dont start with 9 are out. that i think would move this way up on possible answers but even if its wrong and the answer is yes would limit to less than 100 possibilities .if targeting more specifically this solve you could ask : is the rarely thrown bird your referring to an eagle,gold eagle, and a turkey all at the same time? if yes then great but if no kind of a wasted question.
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Post by keladry12 on Jan 2, 2020 20:01:24 GMT -5
Okay. New theory.
I know that someone has mentioned the "rarely thrown bird" being a middle finger. If we are searching near the middle finger, we may find a ring finger with a lovely ring (an engagement band that one should "spare no expense" on?). Upon that ring (a treasure in it's own right, yes?) is.....hm. Anyone know a way to turn a gem or something found on a ring into (probably) 3 digits?
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 20:20:35 GMT -5
You could go karat like 24k gold plus 2 =242 as far as a gem i got nothing as it would be like 1 karat diamond 1/4 karat half cant see any other way unless maybe grade? Like clarity but i dont know how thats graded
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Post by jewelie on Jan 2, 2020 20:58:35 GMT -5
I am not sure a "bird that's rarely thrown" is the middle finger...at least around my parts. That bird is thrown around everywhere! That being said, rings made of silver are always stamped with "925".
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 21:06:19 GMT -5
I am not sure a "bird that's rarely thrown" is the middle finger...at least around my parts. That bird is thrown around everywhere! That being said, rings made of silver are always stamped with "925". lol same here
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Post by jss05010 on Jan 3, 2020 22:29:04 GMT -5
In the jewelry industry, gold is expressed in percentage more often than karats (18k = 0.75)
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Post by Jenny on Jan 4, 2020 15:37:20 GMT -5
It's confirmed...bird rarely thrown does refer to a turkey.... Subscribe and support his channel!
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 4, 2020 18:11:31 GMT -5
Great job on the question. Jenny, how did you spell turkey? With a lowercase t or a capital one?
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Post by Jenny on Jan 5, 2020 7:39:13 GMT -5
Great job on the question. Jenny, how did you spell turkey? With a lowercase t or a capital one? Lowercase t. But since he reads the Q/A, I'm not sure we can/should take anything from that- either way.
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 5, 2020 17:58:14 GMT -5
I agree. If that were important, he would include the text of the question.
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Post by efanton on Jan 5, 2020 19:23:53 GMT -5
I agree. If that were important, he would include the text of the question. Or just as likely being deliberately ambiguous in his answer, so that either Turkey the country or turkey the bird could be the correct answer. As always with this YES/NO question format you have to ask two questions to get one truly useful answer. At least we know our logic so far has probably been correct, that's progress I suppose. It worries me sometimes though when these hunt masters are so reluctant to be a little bit more helpful. I know loads of people that have tried one of two of these hunts, and been totally turned off from them after a couple of months due to a perceived total lack of progress. It's a crying shame in my opinion. these hunts could be far a more popular pastime, great entertainment, good exercise for the auld grey matter, and certainly a better use of spare time than vegetating in front of a TV. Surely the hunt masters must realise that they are slowly killing the goose that lays the golden egg. If more people were involved in participating in these hunts, there would be the possibility of better prizes, and also possibly a modest additional income for themselves, although for most I'm sure its just an entertaining hobby. I'm sure no one would object to those that can pose a well balanced, and entertaining hunts making a little bit of pocket money for themselves. It would also help the likes of Jenny who no doubt puts in a lot more time and effort into hosting these hunts than people give her credit for. With a vastly increased membership and hit count on her forum the small money she gets from advertising would also increase and I for one would certainly not begrudge her that.
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 5, 2020 21:05:27 GMT -5
Keep in mind that Lukas is the only one I know who gives some kind of hint every month.
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Post by efanton on Jan 5, 2020 22:51:52 GMT -5
Keep in mind that Lukas is the only one I know who gives some kind of hint every month. Dont get me wrong, that was not an attack on Lukas. I agree he has made the step in the right direction as far as hunt masters are concerned. It was a general comment about the vast majority of those that set hunts, but yes to a small degree Lukas. I think the only big mistake Lukas made was the format of the questions. There is no margin for flexibility in this format and no way to speed a hunt up, or slow it down. Its all about being able to ask the perfect question with the YES/NO format but in order to do that you really do have to have a very good idea of what the answer will be before asking a YES/NO question. And often, as we have found, it will take multiple questions to get to the answer or clue that can provide real and significant progress and sadly this more likely to have the effect of slowing a hunt down, rather than being able to inject some impetus. Having said that I really do appreciate that he did try something new, allowing frequent questions every month set by those participating rather than giving hints he formulated himself was a great idea. Unfortunately I dont think it worked as well as he would have intended. That said, its his hunt, its played by his rules, and he has final say on that.
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