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Post by zaphod73491 on May 31, 2019 17:36:51 GMT -5
I went through this GIS-like exercise 4 years ago when I first learned of the Chase. I visually raster-scanned over 3,000 15' topo maps of all of Montana and Wyoming in the Fenn search zone, plus 2/3rds of Colorado, compiling an Excel spreadsheet of all place names and their quadrangles of anything potentially "Fenn-y": warm waters, blazes, homes of Brown, heavy loads, water high, brave places and cold places. Took over 1,000 hours. Why did a stop with a third of Colorado left plus northern NM? Because I had an epiphany about WWWH, smacked my forehead and realized it had to be right. Worse, that those 1,000+ hours had been a waste of time.
So, MM and I probably have hundreds of the same places identified, but I'm confident Forrest's WWWH is not among his 600. It's not a named location on any map, IMO.
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Post by heidini on May 31, 2019 17:53:12 GMT -5
I don’t understand why you would sell your where warm waters halt for $25. If you actually knew the correct WWWH, Why wouldn’t you go get it yourself? It seems contradictory.
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Post by crm114 on Jun 1, 2019 23:58:34 GMT -5
It's interesting that recent article said an estimated 46563 TTOTC books have been sold and 54 people have solved WWWH. If I understand correctly, that means 1 in 860 book buyers or so have solved WWWH. It's the toughest clue. It seems about right given how spread out everyone is, and how many possibilities there are. If it's true, I wouldn't think it can be any of the common WWWH, but maybe that's reading too much into things. globusmax.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/will-the-fenn-treasure-be-found-before-mh370-part-1/
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Post by goldilocks on Jun 2, 2019 8:21:39 GMT -5
Hi MM, I think the feedback you are getting has more to do with the $25 price tag you put on your years of work. It somehow belittles all of the effort you put in to it and does the opposite of what you are trying to achieve. In light of all of the people posting items for sale on eBay it cheapens the information you are selling, in my opinion. I've read your posts over the years and respect your passion. Maybe putting it up for auction instead of putting a price on it would've been the better way to go.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 2, 2019 13:42:22 GMT -5
Drifter: haven't been to Dal's in many weeks (and haven't posted there in 6 months). By late 2018, HoD had become dominated by a small minority of searchers who have been around forever, but seem to have no clue how to solve the poem. Some have posted literally hundreds of thousands of words and managed to write absolutely nothing of value as far as the solution.
Ken is one of the few standouts: he has a good head on his shoulders. JDA is polite and seems to be loved by nearly all, but he is stuck on the same spot in Wyoming (29 trips last I recall), and thus is now emotionally committed to his incorrect solution. Then there's Charlie (no M) who is convinced the clues cannot be solved, thinks "nailed down" is a hint to a hardware store in western Montana, and that the poem simply gives coordinates to the chest (or maybe the blaze, I forget which). Then there's Jake who thinks WWWH is Ojo Caliente (how original!) and that TFTW is a long ass way (also wrong), but in this case two wrongs do make a right and he's actually searching in the right very general area.
Shall I assume from your post that Dal is still convinced Madison Junction is WWWH? It's better than most choices, and used by many, but still arbitrary and wrong.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 4, 2019 1:19:54 GMT -5
Hi Drifter: Ojo is a worse WWWH than Madison Junction, so Dal is moving in the wrong direction. The only reason anyone fixates on Ojo is "River Bathing is Best," which is in TFTW not TTOTC. Yes, the story is on Forrest's website, but neither it nor TFTW are mentioned by Forrest as being good "research materials," and nothing in the poem suggest OC as WWWH.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 5, 2019 12:03:16 GMT -5
Hi Drifter: yeah, Toby and Shelly put on a quality YouTube show, and Toby does some good research tracking down things like the Gilbert Gaul black & white painting. But to think that WWWH has anything to do with New Mexico fishing regulations is to entirely dismiss Forrest's warning about specialized knowledge. Home of Brown has nothing to do with fish, bears, beavers, Molly Brown, YNP Ranger Brown, or any feature on a map that has as part of its name "Brown." As you point out, Forrest isn't that obvious.
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