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Post by heidini on Jul 3, 2019 1:47:27 GMT -5
Is there such a thing as “open minded” confirmation bias?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 2:38:59 GMT -5
Confirmation bias isn’t always bad. Maybe clues/ hints can reinforce an idea. And if they can’t be disputed, then they could be right. heidini … what is bad is confirmation bias. The reader or listener is selectively looking for evidence that supports their preconceived ideas; their bias is controlling their search, even though they may be unaware of that reality. So far as I know there is no such thing as open-minded confirmation bias. I would think that "open-mindedness" and "bias" are mutually exclusive.
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Post by heidini on Jul 3, 2019 6:47:38 GMT -5
Confirmation bias isn’t always bad. Maybe clues/ hints can reinforce an idea. And if they can’t be disputed, then they could be right. heidini … what is bad is confirmation bias. The reader or listener is selectively looking for evidence that supports their preconceived ideas; their bias is controlling their search, even though they may be unaware of that reality. So far as I know there is no such thing as open-minded confirmation bias. I would think that "open-mindedness" and "bias" are mutually exclusive. Well I guess we need a new word! Lol. Maybe just confirmation(s)?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 10:00:32 GMT -5
As I posted earlier in this thread, Forrest's dear friend Everard Hinrichs also went by Eric Sloane.
In the middle of the email there is also:
"Well after all kids left I was alone I spent my whole life taking care of my kids and when the last one left I felt so alone."
Also, just say this fast:
"I never had money to send my kids..."
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Post by heidini on Jul 3, 2019 10:09:46 GMT -5
Maybe if every one left, it means you’re alone now right.
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Post by rahrah on Jul 14, 2019 14:01:35 GMT -5
KK: my apologies -- I actually didn't "catch" the connection between the two book titles! A little slow today... Forrest entitled a chapter "Important Literature," and I think most would agree that the novels he went to the trouble of mentioning weren't randomly picked. The Hemingway "mistake" wasn't accidental--Forrest certainly knew the difference between For Whom the Bell Tolls and A Farewell to Arms, just as he would be well aware that Redford *had* written a book. I admit to still being mystified why he harped on the (small) dimensions of the paperback books -- as if this is relevant to their quality. Forrest's book would be just as small if turned into a paperback, so it's not a germane comparison. So there had to be another reason for bringing up the 6" by 4" dimensions. A bit like Olga's 36" long bathtub. I think it's to get us to think about something "diminutive" - pint-sized, small, little, pocket-sized....he signs his things as "f" the small letter, not a capital, large letter F; it too is the diminutive, the lower case.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jul 27, 2019 5:27:59 GMT -5
Zaph - there are lots of 6 x 4's in TTOTC, especially p122-123.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 27, 2019 20:34:46 GMT -5
Zaph - there are lots of 6 x 4's in TTOTC, especially p122-123. Click. D True enough, DBP. But it doesn't seem to help marry the clues to a map...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 21:08:29 GMT -5
Zaph - there are lots of 6 x 4's in TTOTC, especially p122-123. Click. D True enough, DBP. But it doesn't seem to help marry the clues to a map...? I can marry 6 X 4 to a map.
Begin it where warm waters halt And take it in the canyon down, Not far, but too far to walk. Put in below the home of Brown.
The home of (Molly) Brown was Leadville. (Reminder: Pb = Lead) I've posted previously that I believe Glenwood Springs is where warm waters halt. It's an 88 mile drive from Leadville (elevation 10,151 ft) to Glenwood Springs (elevation 5,761 ft). Not far, but too far to walk. Definitely down. The first leg is about 30 miles down Route 24. The rest is all Route 70 (the number 70 is hidden two different ways in the next stanza. The easy one is to simply count how many t's there are in it. Can you say seven T?) Glenwood Canyon will be on your right as you near Glenwood Springs.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 28, 2019 0:42:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately for me, Ralph, I have a completely different solution for this stanza that is not in Colorado; so route 24 doesn't work for me (nor does 64 or 46).
23 worked quite well for me several years ago because I had a blaze that had a major 23 connection, and SB 23 was all about blazes. Throw in the Block 23 row 4 for his father, the 23 stumps in the axeman picture, 20% chance of living 3 years, and even the 23rd bottle in SB 49 (reading the drawer rows like a book), was one of the bottles of cloves. There are at least another dozen 23s, but I think you get the idea. Search for a number and you will find it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 6:47:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately for me, Ralph, I have a completely different solution for this stanza that is not in Colorado; so route 24 doesn't work for me (nor does 64 or 46). 23 worked quite well for me several years ago because I had a blaze that had a major 23 connection, and SB 23 was all about blazes. Throw in the Block 23 row 4 for his father, the 23 stumps in the axeman picture, 20% chance of living 3 years, and even the 23rd bottle in SB 49 (reading the drawer rows like a book), was one of the bottles of cloves. There are at least another dozen 23s, but I think you get the idea. Search for a number and you will find it. I'm not familiar with the other references to 23, but I do think we are supposed to count the stumps, and I've always had a simple way to interpret it. W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. The image is at the end of the book. The last letter of rainbow is W, and "a big W" symbolized the end of two prominent treasure hunts: one fictional (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World), and one real (David Blaine's Mysterious Stranger). It was also the last letter of the text (...like the master you follo w.) in Maranatha. In short, it may a gentle hint about the last clue as well as a bit of homage to hunts gone by. (Puzzle designers always seem compelled to pay homage to their predecessors). There are a few other hints on the same page. One example: Fallen trees are converted to logs by cutting them up, and if you cut up EPILOG, you get (E) PI LOG. Forrest once said or wrote something about rolling over a log and looking at what's underneath. This is sort of a double hint. It is another reminder about the key tool for decoding clues (chopping off the ends of words and using them as construction materials) and the fact that what you are looking for was hidden in an owl nook. I don't think any of this plays a central role in uncovering the nine clues.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 28, 2019 13:48:40 GMT -5
Hi Ralph -- I think I posted it here before, but when Forrest suggested turning over a log, my first thought was to just look at "log" upside-down: 601. Southern Mississippi area code didn't seem helpful (the mirror image pis not withstanding). ;-) U.S. highway 601 spans North and South Carolina (a bit far from the search zone), and a six-oh-one doesn't appear to be police code for anything relevant. But with enough imagination I'm sure a searcher will come up with something that ties to the Chase. :-)
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 28, 2019 15:14:50 GMT -5
Ralph: a couple more 23 references -- Michael Jordan's jersey number (TFTW page 244), and Forrest's frequent mentions of Dr Pepper (to which he consistently adds an errant period after the Dr):
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 17:13:34 GMT -5
Ralph: a couple more 23 references -- Michael Jordan's jersey number (TFTW page 244), and Forrest's frequent mentions of Dr Pepper (to which he consistently adds an errant period after the Dr):
It's also the number of chromosomes in human oocytes and spermatozoa. Probably not what Forrest had in mind with the tree stumps.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 28, 2019 18:44:16 GMT -5
Hi Ralph: since the tree stump illustration was clearly Photoshopped (note all the duplicated stumps, and the duplicate stars), and the Block 23 cemetery reference is on the facing page, it seems a bit too coincidental. But it could be just that: a fluke.
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