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Post by exo on Oct 9, 2019 17:05:12 GMT -5
Don’t know exactly where to post this, but ‘x’ marksnthebsoot reminded me of the Hoxne Hoard treasure. I looked and it doesn’t look like there is a mirror in the hoard, but could be useful
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Post by efanton on Oct 31, 2019 19:30:22 GMT -5
Its now the 1st November and time (or close to ) to ask Lukas a new question. Obviously this is down to the discretion of the Patreon being asked the question. Last month I asked the quesion I thought most wanted answered rather the the question that I really wanted answering (which was was the google place marker I found google maps X marks the spot ) So what QUESTION can we persuade the lucky winier of this months draw to ask? Personally I would like stanza 5, or more specifically our general interpretation of stanza 5, to be clarified. Does stanza 5 result in C4 F5 C6 E6?Is there better way to ask a question about this stanza that will yield enough information for use to make progress. Of course there is the option to ask for more clarification on other stanza's in the hunt. If you have a suggestion as to a question that might be asked now is the time. Please remember though that it is up to the winner as to how he/she asks the question , if they choose to ask their question their way there that should be accepted. Last month a few, ( and it was very few) were very aggressive in what should be asked despite they were not in the position to actually ask the question. I tried to accommodate the majority and still got flak. lesson learned for me personally, in future I will follow my own instincts, unless persuaded by the majority otherwise. So what do we need to clarify, and how best to do it?
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Post by treasurer on Oct 31, 2019 22:08:09 GMT -5
Does stanza 5 result in C4 F5 C6 E6? Works for me.
Either that or:
"Lukas, can we have access to the equivalent of a key tester for each stanza?"
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Post by jewelie on Oct 31, 2019 22:23:52 GMT -5
I like this idea, but I don't like the word "result". This would mean that c4 f5 c6 f6 is in the key. We know that is not the case. Should we encourage the asker to ask if the stanza leads us to that string, indicating that it needs to be further manipulated to discover the part of the key it represents?
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Post by captnkush on Oct 31, 2019 22:34:28 GMT -5
Maybe is c4 f5 c6 e6 a complete solve for stanza 5? Just think if something along these lines is asked we have to do it in a way that covers the most ground .if we simply ask if stanza 5 results in c4 f5 c6 e6 i feel it could be a easy "no" just because we may have to go a step further with it. If it is a "yes" that would be great but if even 1 part is wrong or another step is needed a no would be most likely the answer. I know we all wanna lock this stanza down but what is the best way to ask? Im really not sure.
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Post by susb8383 on Nov 1, 2019 5:44:23 GMT -5
Either that or:
"Lukas, can we have access to the equivalent of a key tester for each stanza?"
I would love a tester for each stanza but i dont think he would do it. It would be too easy to cheat. If there was a separate tester for just 3 digits, it wouldn't be that hard to enter every possible combination until we got a match.
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Post by susb8383 on Nov 1, 2019 5:50:40 GMT -5
Maybe is c4 f5 c6 e6 a complete solve for stanza 5? Just think if something along these lines is asked we have to do it in a way that covers the most ground .if we simply ask if stanza 5 results in c4 f5 c6 e6 i feel it could be a easy "no" just because we may have to go a step further with it. If it is a "yes" that would be great but if even 1 part is wrong or another step is needed a no would be most likely the answer. I know we all wanna lock this stanza down but what is the best way to ask? Im really not sure. The problem is c6 might be wrong but the others correct. If we ask about all four pieces together, his answer would be no and we would never know the other three were correct. Personally i would focus in on c6. If he says c6 is correct, i guarantee the other three are also.
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Post by susb8383 on Nov 1, 2019 5:53:39 GMT -5
So, I looked a bit into sea legs. Sea legs basically means that you are able to easily walk on a boat at sea. Well, I was thinking, a place with no sea legs would be the high seas....or high Cs. Now, what do we do with this? Someone else had also suggested high cs on the thread for that stanza.
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Post by efanton on Nov 1, 2019 10:39:37 GMT -5
Maybe is c4 f5 c6 e6 a complete solve for stanza 5? Just think if something along these lines is asked we have to do it in a way that covers the most ground .if we simply ask if stanza 5 results in c4 f5 c6 e6 i feel it could be a easy "no" just because we may have to go a step further with it. If it is a "yes" that would be great but if even 1 part is wrong or another step is needed a no would be most likely the answer. I know we all wanna lock this stanza down but what is the best way to ask? Im really not sure. I agree. Its a difficult one to ask this month. We want to confirm the partial solve C4 F5 C6 E6 is correct, but where does that get us? Its obvious that something else has to happen if indeed the first key is a telephone number. What would be really cool is to work out WHAT TO DO with C4 F5 C6 E6, but being that we a limited to simply YES/NO answers its hard to think of a question that will force Lukas to give a method. If someone could think of a way to word a question that might give us a method rather than simply confirming a partial solve I would be delighted, and personal I would favour that. Problem is there are so many things that could be done with four hexadecimal numbers that a question could easily be wasted. If we are just going to confirm the partial solve C4 F5 C6 E6 then I agree it needs to be worded far better than simply 'Does stanza 5 result in C4 F5 C6 E6?'
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Post by elysethecat on Nov 1, 2019 11:04:58 GMT -5
Hi everyone! I'm the lucky member that gets to ask this month's hint question!!! I've read through your posts and would love even more input and suggestions. For me personally, I'm stuck (and have been since the beginning) on the second part of the first key. I have been trying alternatives that I'm comfortable with for the third part of the key, not necessarily the numbers "4566," so this isn't my biggest personal concern. I've also come up with a few alternatives I'm comfortable with (not just 313) for the first part of the key. But for part two...I have not yet come up with a solution that feels as good as the other key parts (even my alternative digits). I have not yet seen anyone else come up with anything that screams, "A-Ha!" I'm curious as to whether the thrown bird is a bowling reference, whether treasure on its own could simply refer to an X (or the number 10) on a map, if the second part of the first key is a three-digit number (this one might be good so we can see how the three sections of the first key are further broken down).
In general, I'm curious if there are any zeros in the 10-digit number that comprises the first key. I'm not inclined to ask anything that refers to the second key. I'd like to definitively knock out the first key first.
I'm curious as to why so much focus on the third part of the first key when I feel so personally clueless when it comes to part two. Did I miss something major and everyone has a solid solution for this part? I don't even have a decent guess! I feel like if I could narrow the second part of the key down to 4 or 5 solid guesses that make actual sense, I would jump back into the DBT hunt with a new perspective and maybe things would begin to fall into place.
I still have 40+ hrs before I need to send Lukas the email response with my y/n question. Please, PLEASE, feel free to jump in and contribute any ideas, thoughts, questions, etc. I am willing to be open-minded and no question is too small or specific. I've shared my thoughts on the things I'd like clarified, so let's collaborate! - New hunters are especially welcome, I'd love to hear some fresh perspectives.
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Post by captnkush on Nov 1, 2019 11:23:35 GMT -5
Personally i think getting stanza 5 nailed down would be best just because for a area code or prefix there are ultimately gonna be way less possibilities. If stanza five could be considered solved i believe i could crack the six numbers that 6 numbers that precede it within a couple weeks max.i like you thinking about stanza 4 and would also like clarity on that but ultimately there are only gonna be 999 possibilities on prefix and 9999 on the last 4 so just looking at that fact it seems to make way more sense to go for stanza 5. Obviously its your call and whatever decide ill happily support. The questions can be tricky so play it carefully and whatever you ask try not leave alot of wiggle room. Thanks for listening and good luck
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Post by captnkush on Nov 1, 2019 11:42:50 GMT -5
Also d.d.e has so many songs and the process of trying to Google translate is a major pain in butt. E6 seems very logical. i was scrolling through you tube questions this morning and noticed somebody ask if you need to be bilingual and Lukas answered in a way to suggest we might to at least translate something. Personally i think that might have something to with stanza 4 but it could be stanza 5 as d.d.e. is Norwegian. Anyhow just food for thought.
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Post by treasurer on Nov 1, 2019 23:48:46 GMT -5
The logistics of solving Key #1 requires that all three parts have to be correct before any positive feedback can be obtained. It seems to me that if a person acknowledges the popular interpretation of each stanza, then any one of these topics would make a good subject for a question:
In part 1, is area code 313 (Dearborn), correct or not?
In part 2, is the bird rarely thrown a turkey (as in the bowling context)?
In part 2, is the bird rarely thrown an eagle (as in the treasure/money context)?
In part 3, assuming the other parts (C4 F5 E6) are correct, does "No sea legs here" = C6 for it's answer?
elysethecat, quite frankly I've tried so many expanded variations of all of the above for a solve that any clarification from Lukas on just about anything would be welcome. Whatever your question turns out to be, it will have some good thought on your part behind it and will be useful.
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Post by goldenchild on Nov 2, 2019 10:11:35 GMT -5
Ya I like eliminating or reinforcing a solid clue. Asking if 313 is correct would eliminate that section of the key for good. Then next month we will ask about the 2nd part of the key. A month later the third part. Because let’s face it, there’s a week of activity after a question and then the forums die down til the end of the month. We are all stuck and with the monthly questions we will have this figured out in about a year. I personally have pretty much lost Interest and moved onto other puzzles.
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Post by elysethecat on Nov 2, 2019 14:18:52 GMT -5
I'm happy to focus the question on stanza #5. I personally don't believe the "result" to the stanza is c4 f5 c6 e6, so I want to steer clear of any ambiguous questions or answers that could potentially be open for greater interpretation.
I'm thinking of narrowing the question down to something along the lines of: "Does the line 'no sea legs here' specifically refer to C6, as in the letter C and number 6?" - if the answer is "yes", then the other alphanumerics alluded to in the stanza's riddles would most likely also be correct. Of course, this y/n answer won't help us discern what to do with these alphanumerics, but I'm sure we all have our own theories on this. If C4, F5, C6, E6 are correct, I personally have a 4-digit solve that no one else has mentioned yet on the forum. If Lukas' answer is no, we're all in the same boat paddling upstream until December 1 rolls around...
Other ideas for questions - "Is the bird that's rarely thrown a turkey?" "Is the bird that's rarely thrown a bowling reference" "Is the second part of the first key three digits" "is the third part of the first key four digits"
Of course, these thoughts aren't in their final form - I will make sure that no matter what I ask, it'll be airtight in terms of getting a definitive yes or no response from Lukas.
More suggestions still welcome, we have under 24 hours to go!
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