kk
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Post by kk on Sept 4, 2019 14:46:54 GMT -5
How do you break down "If you are brave and in the wood? They seem to require a union of sorts. brave + in the wood = I can't figure out how to work this one. I just get "if you are above the trouble" or "if you are above and in trouble". Neither help. Does anyone have thoughts?
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Post by 49 dollers on Sept 4, 2019 16:14:43 GMT -5
How do you break down "If you are brave and in the wood? They seem to require a union of sorts. brave + in the wood = I can't figure out how to work this one. I just get "if you are above the trouble" or "if you are above and in trouble". Neither help. Does anyone have thoughts? Maybe a place such as Medicine Bow National Forest named as such because of the mountain mahogany making the best bows which the braves were into, or maybe I'm just tying knots.
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Post by omni on Sept 4, 2019 17:48:47 GMT -5
I think only one of those two things in that line is a potential hint. I think all the real clues come before it.
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Post by LeonardoDecapitated on Sept 4, 2019 23:52:12 GMT -5
If repeated many times, to me this line starts to sound a lot like
"If you are engraved in the wood".. Which really makes no sense at all..
However looking at it a different way, if you spell out the Y,O,U, it sounds a lot like
"If IOU are engraved in the wood"
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Post by 49 dollers on Sept 5, 2019 9:28:23 GMT -5
If repeated many times, to me this line starts to sound a lot like "If you are engraved in the wood".. Which really makes no sense at all.. However looking at it a different way, if you spell out the Y,O,U, it sounds a lot like "If IOU are engraved in the wood" I've worked f u r brave n n the wood, but could make much of it though a fir tree is used by native Americans. www.native-languages.org/legends-fir.htm
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Post by Jenny on Sept 9, 2019 14:14:23 GMT -5
I know in one of my interpretations/theories, this line 'If you are brave and in the wood' helped confirm my possible location-- along with other meanings...... and I still like the idea.....
But I linked it to being around the Lionhead Mountains--- (since it could connect to 'brave' (remember it was the Lion who needed courage in Wizard of Oz), and in the wood- mountains/forest)...
Here is some info on the area from Wiki:
The Henrys Lake Mountains, highest point Sheep Point, el. 10,609 feet (3,234 m),[1] (See also [2]) are a small mountain range northwest of West Yellowstone, Montana in Madison County, Montana. These mountains are also referred to as the Lionhead Mountains, and straddle the Continental Divide along the Idaho-Montana border. On the northwest corner of these mountains is Quake Lake, created when the 1959 Hebgen Lake earthquake caused a massive landslide and dammed the Madison River.
Any one else used this?
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Post by ironwill on Sept 9, 2019 23:49:28 GMT -5
How do you break down "If you are brave and in the wood? They seem to require a union of sorts. brave + in the wood = I can't figure out how to work this one. I just get "if you are above the trouble" or "if you are above and in trouble". Neither help. Does anyone have thoughts? Well, he talks many times about being courageous (brave) going to the cemetery at night, the stout hearted men at night by the campfire, and being in that laotian jungle all night. So there you have "night". In the wood. You have to be IN the wood to win, not "in the woods." So maybe the chest is sepulchered in a log or something similar or in a tree (I know I know)? Just my thoughts. Opinions may vary.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 10, 2019 0:05:39 GMT -5
How do you break down "If you are brave and in the wood? They seem to require a union of sorts. brave + in the wood = I can't figure out how to work this one. I just get "if you are above the trouble" or "if you are above and in trouble". Neither help. Does anyone have thoughts? Well, he talks many times about being courageous (brave) going to the cemetery at night, the stout hearted men at night by the campfire, and being in that laotian jungle all night. So there you have "night". In the wood. You have to be IN the wood to win, not "in the woods." So maybe the chest is sepulchered in a log or something similar or in a tree (I know I know)? Just my thoughts. Opinions may vary. A log wouldn't stand the test of time. Unless it was petrified...
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Post by ironwill on Sept 10, 2019 11:08:45 GMT -5
Well, he talks many times about being courageous (brave) going to the cemetery at night, the stout hearted men at night by the campfire, and being in that laotian jungle all night. So there you have "night". In the wood. You have to be IN the wood to win, not "in the woods." So maybe the chest is sepulchered in a log or something similar or in a tree (I know I know)? Just my thoughts. Opinions may vary. A log wouldn't stand the test of time. Unless it was petrified... my thoughts exactly.
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 10, 2019 11:25:13 GMT -5
Well, he talks many times about being courageous (brave) going to the cemetery at night, the stout hearted men at night by the campfire, and being in that laotian jungle all night. So there you have "night". In the wood. You have to be IN the wood to win, not "in the woods." So maybe the chest is sepulchered in a log or something similar or in a tree (I know I know)? Just my thoughts. Opinions may vary. A log wouldn't stand the test of time. Unless it was petrified... Two that I know of in our search area...Gallatin and Yellowstone. Only problem is then you could jump straight to "brave and in the wood" pretty quickly and then use confirmation bias to fill in all previous clues, which I don't think we're meant to do.
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Post by Jenny on Sept 10, 2019 11:55:34 GMT -5
While I really like the idea for the Chest to be hidden 'In the Wood'-- as inside a petrified log...... I feel it could be 'accidentally stumbled upon', and so I don't feel it is hidden this way. If anyone is in the forest hiking around and comes across a piece of petrified wood, that alone will attract attention....and someone could 'accidentally find the chest'....just by seeing the log.... I don't feel that can happen....
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Post by 49 dollers on Sept 10, 2019 11:58:59 GMT -5
Brave heart, heart of wood, if YOU are brave you have heart, heart of gold. Cupid's arrow ?
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Post by crm114 on Sept 10, 2019 13:06:26 GMT -5
While I really like the idea for the Chest to be hidden 'In the Wood'-- as inside a petrified log...... I feel it could be 'accidentally stumbled upon', and so I don't feel it is hidden this way. If anyone is in the forest hiking around and comes across a piece of petrified wood, that alone will attract attention....and someone could 'accidentally find the chest'....just by seeing the log.... I don't feel that can happen.... I have come to the conclusion the spot must be entirely nondescript, except to the solver. Nothing about it will attract attention to anyone else, even searchers, if they have not solved the poem.
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Post by astree on Sept 10, 2019 13:46:18 GMT -5
If repeated many times, to me this line starts to sound a lot like "If you are engraved in the wood".. Which really makes no sense at all.. However looking at it a different way, if you spell out the Y,O,U, it sounds a lot like "If IOU are engraved in the wood" I've worked f u r brave n n the wood, but could make much of it though a fir tree is used by native Americans. www.native-languages.org/legends-fir.htmThere are so many ways to look at the poem, and much seems to tie together, in many ways. For example, Your Effort Will (YEW, a type of wood) .... and in the wood Worth the cold .... F U R brave (if u r brave) (fur is up to the task of protecting from the cold) arEBRAVE ...BEAVER (which comes from word for Brown) in "thEWOod" (EWO / OWE the title to the gold), or in wOOd is OO youREFFOrt (OFFER, he will make the offer in the next line of the poem) will be worth ... if you are .... your f fort will be worth the cold (the hiding spot by f will be able to handle the cold) are a few examples for this section of the poem. The issue is to identify which of the helpful information. kk, I believe there is a definite understanding of the line which is useful. Identifying the clues, and their meaning, is the challenge of the poem.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 10, 2019 13:54:45 GMT -5
"In the wood" can also simply mean "on target" or better yet "Bullseye" (from darts). Note that "Bullseye" was the mysterious unnumbered story between chapters 18 and 19 of TFTW. And there is another literal "in the wood" bullseye in TFTW: the Mountain Man who shot a hole through Alexander Hamilton (sic!) into the wood of the tree.
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