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Post by goldilocks on Sept 10, 2019 14:53:11 GMT -5
In the 1960's a wood sided station wagon was called a woodie so maybe in the wood is in the station wagon lol...
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Post by Jenny on Sept 11, 2019 15:07:40 GMT -5
If 'Brave' is not a clue towards location, why would you need to be brave? He says it's not in a dangerous location.
It seems to connect back up to the line 'from there it's no place for the meek'....
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Post by npsbuilder on Sept 11, 2019 16:20:34 GMT -5
I know in one of my interpretations/theories, this line 'If you are brave and in the wood' helped confirm my possible location-- along with other meanings...... and I still like the idea..... But I linked it to being around the Lionhead Mountains--- (since it could connect to 'brave' (remember it was the Lion who needed courage in Wizard of Oz), and in the wood- mountains/forest)... Here is some info on the area from Wiki: The Henrys Lake Mountains, highest point Sheep Point, el. 10,609 feet (3,234 m),[1] (See also [2]) are a small mountain range northwest of West Yellowstone, Montana in Madison County, Montana. These mountains are also referred to as the Lionhead Mountains, and straddle the Continental Divide along the Idaho-Montana border. On the northwest corner of these mountains is Quake Lake, created when the 1959 Hebgen Lake earthquake caused a massive landslide and dammed the Madison River. Any one else used this? I have given it a little thought and fits with brave and in the wood if you approach with the thinking of this referring to a sluice. Attached below is definition www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/sluice |
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 11, 2019 18:58:31 GMT -5
If 'Brave' is not a clue towards location, why would you need to be brave? He says it's not in a dangerous location. It seems to connect back up to the line 'from there it's no place for the meek'.... Brave can mean gutsy...to do something gutsy isn't necessarily dangerous. For example, speaking in front of a large crowd would take guts for me, but would not be dangerous. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 11, 2019 20:58:36 GMT -5
If 'Brave' is not a clue towards location, why would you need to be brave? He says it's not in a dangerous location. It seems to connect back up to the line 'from there it's no place for the meek'.... Brave can mean gutsy...to do something gutsy isn't necessarily dangerous. For example, speaking in front of a large crowd would take guts for me, but would not be dangerous. I love your example, Goldilocks: something personally "scary" (public speaking) that isn't dangerous. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Sept 11, 2019 21:02:59 GMT -5
If 'Brave' is not a clue towards location, why would you need to be brave? He says it's not in a dangerous location. It seems to connect back up to the line 'from there it's no place for the meek'.... Hi Jenny: hmm. Yes and no on a meek tie-in. Meek is not really an antonym of brave (not that you were necessarily implying that). I think of meek as being "compliant." That you will do what is expected of you without complaint (domesticated animals come to mind). Meek can also mean "gentle", which is again quite different from fearful. |
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Post by Jenny on Sept 12, 2019 6:58:38 GMT -5
If 'Brave' is not a clue towards location, why would you need to be brave? He says it's not in a dangerous location. It seems to connect back up to the line 'from there it's no place for the meek'.... Hi Jenny: hmm. Yes and no on a meek tie-in. Meek is not really an antonym of brave (not that you were necessarily implying that). I think of meek as being "compliant." That you will do what is expected of you without complaint (domesticated animals come to mind). Meek can also mean "gentle", which is again quite different from fearful. Very true.... So 'from there it's no place for the meek' might then connect back to Forrest's dare- "A dare went out to everyone who possessed a sense of wanderlust....." or it might connect to nothing...lol... But for many searchers that line of the poem (FTINPFTM) is the point where they leave their car and begin to actually physically 'thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure'. Nonetheless, 'why dare us?' |
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 12, 2019 8:11:05 GMT -5
We may be required to do something that an Indian Brave (warrior) would do.
Or the letters may be required for some other reason if you believe instructions/words are hidden in the poem in this way.
"If you are v.bare and in the wood"...you might get arrested!
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 12, 2019 8:11:53 GMT -5
A Brave may have an arrow, for example.
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Post by CJ on Sept 12, 2019 9:52:07 GMT -5
I believe that this line refers to an indian in a saddle. Possibly a sculpture...
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 12, 2019 13:08:22 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: hmm. Yes and no on a meek tie-in. Meek is not really an antonym of brave (not that you were necessarily implying that). I think of meek as being "compliant." That you will do what is expected of you without complaint (domesticated animals come to mind). Meek can also mean "gentle", which is again quite different from fearful. Very true.... So 'from there it's no place for the meek' might then connect back to Forrest's dare- "A dare went out to everyone who possessed a sense of wanderlust....." or it might connect to nothing...lol... But for many searchers that line of the poem (FTINPFTM) is the point where they leave their car and begin to actually physically 'thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure'. Nonetheless, 'why dare us?' Why brave / dare? One reason is that you may have had to move the corpse of an old soldier to get at the loot... |
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Post by kk on Sept 12, 2019 15:57:13 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: hmm. Yes and no on a meek tie-in. Meek is not really an antonym of brave (not that you were necessarily implying that). I think of meek as being "compliant." That you will do what is expected of you without complaint (domesticated animals come to mind). Meek can also mean "gentle", which is again quite different from fearful. Very true.... So 'from there it's no place for the meek' might then connect back to Forrest's dare- "A dare went out to everyone who possessed a sense of wanderlust....." or it might connect to nothing...lol... But for many searchers that line of the poem (FTINPFTM) is the point where they leave their car and begin to actually physically 'thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure'. Nonetheless, 'why dare us?' You guys are great and so creative. So many different ways that this line can be interpreted. Jenny, you mentioned his "dare" to us. One of the things that stands out to me is that in the chapter "Ode to Peggy Jean" on pg. 143, after talking about his recovery, Fenn says: "It was important to me that I dared to be myself." I understood that to be in reference to how he wanted to make his exit from this life. But it makes me wonder what drove him to feel that was such an important part of all this- daring to be himself. It almost implied to me a feeling of wanting to distinguish his exit in some way central to the essence of who he is. You guys are great and so creative. So many different ways that this line can be interpreted. I agree with Zap & Jenny that there isn't a connection between "no place for the meek" line and "brave and in the wood," although I see how some people associate the two. I had linked "brave and in the wood" to "No paddle up your creek" because that idiom has connotations of being in "trouble." We use the expression "out of the woods" metaphorically to indicate someone has found there way to safety or moved away from some type of trouble. So if one is "in the wood" it might indicate they are in some trouble. And if we are in trouble we must be brave......but I only see this working in a metaphorical sense- not in any sense that we must actually be doing anything that might put us in physical peril or doing something outside of the confines of the law. I am just not sure how that works......the word "IF" implies the stipulation that both conditions (brave + in the wood) must be met in order to achieve the title. I see how each can work independently (especially in regards to the times FF has mentioned "brave" and what he has associated with bravery), and I can see how word play, and things like the idea of a bulls-eye can work, but I can't seem to settle on a way that they work in conjunction with each other. I appreciate all of your ideas. Definitely a lot to ruminate on. I love it when people are willing to share thoughts. Many thanks! |
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 13, 2019 9:20:22 GMT -5
Maybe we need to walk through or around a cemetery at some point. For some people that would require bravery and guts.
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Post by richard on Sept 13, 2019 16:28:41 GMT -5
Maybe we need to walk through or around a cemetery at some point. For some people that would require bravery and guts. Why would that require bravery or guts? There's more outside the cemetery that would hurt you than anything in it. |
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 13, 2019 16:36:16 GMT -5
Maybe we need to walk through or around a cemetery at some point. For some people that would require bravery and guts. Why would that require bravery or guts? There's more outside the cemetery that would hurt you than anything in it. Some people are superstitious about being in a cemetery...ghosts, apparitions, eery feeling etc. Just because you may need bravery or guts to do something doesn't mean it's dangerous. How about at night? Could be a little creepy? |
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