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Post by goldilocks on Sept 9, 2019 18:35:47 GMT -5
Forrest talks about how he likes to corrupt words and that if people know what he's trying to say, then what does it matter what word he uses. The most important thing he said that stands out to me was in an interview on May 8, 2017 called "On the Road with Charlie" (see link below). He said that this thought of using made up/corrupt words permeates, manifests itself IN THE POEM. I know he did this a lot in TTOTC but in the poem too? The message I get is dissect words less and use more instinct and imagination. Now I'm really stuck because I can't figure out what word or words he could've misused in the poem that I am misinterpreting...oh wait, all of them! Does anyone have any examples? I need to re-program my thought process. Let's stick to nouns because he said so. "Every word is placed in there strategically, and you can't ignore any of the nouns in that poem." www.stitcher.com/podcast/isaac-cole/on-the-road-with-charlie/e/50089487 (at approx. the 30:20 minute mark) |
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 9, 2019 19:57:59 GMT -5
Terry scant with marvel gays I think it’s one of the worst corruptions of ever seen in a poem, but anyway right after this statement he goes on to say “but the poem is straight forward.” Sounds really contradictory. He also mentions polarity in TTOTC. What about instead of marvel...marble? like staring with a marble gaze? |
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Post by goldenchild on Sept 9, 2019 20:37:42 GMT -5
I’ve always been drawn to the word paddle. If you look it up one of the definitions is to walk in shallow water. Not so much wading as walking in ankle deep water. I’ve been always thinking “close, but too far to walk” might mean wading across or down a river. A spot could be right there just across the creek. But you can’t walk there. You could wade, tread, swim, paddle...but not walk. So if it did mean wade down river let’s say, then the end draws nigh and there’s no paddle up your creek could mean take a left coming up and you won’t be wading, or paddling in the creek anymore. Maybe because it’s steep and a boulder choked tributary that you will be walking up out of the water now. A scenario like that would play into the heavy loads and water high and you would have to get wet on the way so your effort would be worth the cold. That definition of paddle really stuck out to me though and I can’t seem to change my way of interpreting that word now when I read the poem.
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 10, 2019 7:16:50 GMT -5
I’ve always been drawn to the word paddle. If you look it up one of the definitions is to walk in shallow water. Not so much wading as walking in ankle deep water. I’ve been always thinking “close, but too far to walk” might mean wading across or down a river. A spot could be right there just across the creek. But you can’t walk there. You could wade, tread, swim, paddle...but not walk. So if it did mean wade down river let’s say, then the end draws nigh and there’s no paddle up your creek could mean take a left coming up and you won’t be wading, or paddling in the creek anymore. Maybe because it’s steep and a boulder choked tributary that you will be walking up out of the water now. A scenario like that would play into the heavy loads and water high and you would have to get wet on the way so your effort would be worth the cold. That definition of paddle really stuck out to me though and I can’t seem to change my way of interpreting that word now when I read the poem. I like that definition of paddle but how could he be sure nobody could stumble upon it unless we are to dig in ankle deep water. In the Bill Briggs letters/audio recordings while in Vietnam, Forrest talked about illusion lakes which only have water in them during the rainy season - alkali lakes. Maybe that's why we need to be mud aware and should only go in drier season? I'm also thinking that when he said he uses made up/corrupt words he didn't necessarily mean alternate definitions or homophones or homonyms but words completely misused and spelled different but maybe sound similar - words that sound slightly nonsensical but are common enough to overlook them. He said the treasure may be located by the one who can best adjust...adjust pronunciation? Some examples - "take it" could be ticket, "put in" could be putting below (may be a golf course near by with a name that would work with home of Brown?). |
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Post by van on Sept 10, 2019 15:24:36 GMT -5
Cease = seize and quest = chest your chest to seize
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Post by goldilocks on Sept 10, 2019 16:33:08 GMT -5
to cease - disease
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Post by davebakedpotato on Sept 10, 2019 16:33:36 GMT -5
Terry scant with marvel gays I think it’s one of the worst corruptions ever seen in a poem, but anyway right after this statement he goes on to say “but the poem is straight forward.” Sounds really contradictory. Tammi's chant with Marvin Gaye... Ain't no mountain high enough! 😂 |
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