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Post by lbkgoat on Nov 17, 2019 19:42:36 GMT -5
If your solve is the correct one, what have you seen to solidify your solve?
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Post by npsbuilder on Nov 17, 2019 19:44:06 GMT -5
Great question. I have been pondering this since Monday night.
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Post by richard on Nov 17, 2019 21:21:56 GMT -5
If your solve is the correct one, what have you seen to solidify your solve? You will only know that you have the correct solve when the Treasure Chest is in your hands.
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Post by lbkgoat on Nov 18, 2019 6:08:36 GMT -5
If your solve is the correct one, what have you seen to solidify your solve? You will only know that you have the correct solve when the Treasure Chest is in your hands. I get that, but a lot of people talk about their solve being 98% or something similar. In order to say that, they would have to have seen something or recognized something Forrest has put out. So what is it, in a general description and without giving solves up?
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Post by npsbuilder on Nov 18, 2019 7:09:49 GMT -5
The solve is something I have been working on since last September. At about 4:27 AM this morning it all came to me in a flash while reading the Bible.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Nov 18, 2019 7:59:13 GMT -5
You will only know that you have the correct solve when the Treasure Chest is in your hands. I get that, but a lot of people talk about their solve being 98% or something similar. In order to say that, they would have to have seen something or recognized something Forrest has put out. So what is it, in a general description and without giving solves up? There were a number of things that came together to convince me to make a trip - a solution that fits the poem including stanzas 1, 5 and 6, apparent confirmation in TTOTC (the aberrations that have been discussed at length), some allignment with the more strange scrapbooks, a geological feature that lies at exactly 10,200 feet etc. Once on site a few more things came together, one a clear reference to something in TTOTC and the other a physical object that is very reminiscent of something else, so much it made me laugh hysterically. And yet...it was wrong!
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Post by Jenny on Nov 18, 2019 9:22:11 GMT -5
I get that, but a lot of people talk about their solve being 98% or something similar. In order to say that, they would have to have seen something or recognized something Forrest has put out. So what is it, in a general description and without giving solves up? There were a number of things that came together to convince me to make a trip - a solution that fits the poem including stanzas 1, 5 and 6, apparent confirmation in TTOTC (the aberrations that have been discussed at length), some allignment with the more strange scrapbooks, a geological feature that lies at exactly 10,200 feet etc. Once on site a few more things came together, one a clear reference to something in TTOTC and the other a physical object that is very reminiscent of something else, so much it made me laugh hysterically. And yet...it was wrong! I agree, I think it is how 'things' connect..... However, it is difficult (impossible maybe?) to confirm if they are intended to connect or they are coincidentally connecting because we are looking for connections or confirmations--
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Post by npsbuilder on Nov 18, 2019 12:13:06 GMT -5
How do you know? I have no clue anymore. Me for one I'm bowing out for now and need to get focused on another project.
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Post by richard on Nov 18, 2019 12:35:50 GMT -5
How do you know? I have no clue anymore. Me for one I'm bowing out for now and need to get focused on another project. Sometimes we all need to take a break and let the dust settle. So many thoughts are a mind fog. Take a little time to let them settle and then go back and reexamine all that you have learned. Sometimes you get a new insight that was hidden from you before.
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Post by richard on Nov 18, 2019 12:42:42 GMT -5
I get that, but a lot of people talk about their solve being 98% or something similar. In order to say that, they would have to have seen something or recognized something Forrest has put out. So what is it, in a general description and without giving solves up? There were a number of things that came together to convince me to make a trip - a solution that fits the poem including stanzas 1, 5 and 6, apparent confirmation in TTOTC (the aberrations that have been discussed at length), some allignment with the more strange scrapbooks, a geological feature that lies at exactly 10,200 feet etc. Once on site a few more things came together, one a clear reference to something in TTOTC and the other a physical object that is very reminiscent of something else, so much it made me laugh hysterically. And yet...it was wrong! Dave, I have had three solves that matched exactly to the clues in the poem. But no TC was found. Coincidence? No I just had the wrong answer for one or more of my clues. I never discard a solve for that reason. But I reexamine it for different directions I could have taken, or places I may have missed. I do how ever discard solves that Forrest has ruled out in later clues, IE- Not on or near the Rio Grand River.
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Post by lbkgoat on Nov 18, 2019 13:29:02 GMT -5
There were a number of things that came together to convince me to make a trip - a solution that fits the poem including stanzas 1, 5 and 6, apparent confirmation in TTOTC (the aberrations that have been discussed at length), some allignment with the more strange scrapbooks, a geological feature that lies at exactly 10,200 feet etc. Once on site a few more things came together, one a clear reference to something in TTOTC and the other a physical object that is very reminiscent of something else, so much it made me laugh hysterically. And yet...it was wrong! Dave, I have had three solves that matched exactly to the clues in the poem. But no TC was found. Coincidence? No I just had the wrong answer for one or more of my clues. I never discard a solve for that reason. But I reexamine it for different directions I could have taken, or places I may have missed. I do how ever discard solves that Forrest has ruled out in later clues, IE- Not on or near the Rio Grand River. I’m sure many people make their solve fit, but there has to be more that lead you to believe that you are correct, right?
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Post by richard on Nov 18, 2019 16:24:59 GMT -5
Dave, I have had three solves that matched exactly to the clues in the poem. But no TC was found. Coincidence? No I just had the wrong answer for one or more of my clues. I never discard a solve for that reason. But I reexamine it for different directions I could have taken, or places I may have missed. I do how ever discard solves that Forrest has ruled out in later clues, IE- Not on or near the Rio Grand River. I’m sure many people make their solve fit, but there has to be more that lead you to believe that you are correct, right? There was no making my solve fit in these areas. They were solid to the parameters set by definition of the clues. As I stated I may have had incorrect solutions for what Forrest was thinking, but the obligatory nature of his clues calls for multiple viable solutions to each clue. There in is the challenge of the chase. There are nine clues each clue has so far to my research at least 6 or more solutions. Each of those solutions has to match exactly what Forrest was intending. One error or miscalculation can throw the entire solution out of contention, but not the rest of the solves. Therefore each BOTG is a test and viable options must be observed. In example I give you WWWH. Does it halt when it meets cold water? Is it even a Warm water source? Could it be of a philosophical nature, or where the water itself actually stops, or pause's? Could it be where it starts to change in temperature, or could it be of a poetic definition. That's just the first question that must be answered correctly. Now think of the other eight clues and apply that to your solves. IMHO if you don't have multiple answers to the obscure clues then your odds are better put to use playing the lottery than trying to solve Forrest's Poem and retrieving the prize. No one is going to luck into finding the treasure other than lucking into connecting the right responses, to the right clues, in the right places. Imagination is thinking of the possible answers for each clue, Logic is eliminating the obvious and recognizing the possibilities, and coincidence is a factor that works for and against you. Then I feel the key to solving this conundrum is understanding Forrest as best we can and try to think as he may have thought while designing this poem.
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Post by lbkgoat on Nov 18, 2019 16:29:52 GMT -5
I like your answer; however, didn’t you ever see anything that Forrest posted and have an ahhhhh haaaaaa moment? For instance, the toothbrush holder?
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Post by richard on Nov 18, 2019 16:46:00 GMT -5
I like your answer; however, didn’t you ever see anything that Forrest posted and have an ahhhhh haaaaaa moment? For instance, the toothbrush holder? The problem is in the interpretation of what he say's. He always talks and post in multi-speak terms he sometimes as he describes them in borderline definition of their original use. So you have to determine if that is his intention, or did he make up a word from others to define what he is hinting at. I have found several times he has done this. The question is did he do it intentionally, and if so how to apply it to known clues he has given. I am a Divergent Thinker, I always come up with multiple answers to any question. I Try to think laterally when in the field, but maintain a divergent thought pattern to use for any contingencies that may arise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 19:51:25 GMT -5
I like your answer; however, didn’t you ever see anything that Forrest posted and have an ahhhhh haaaaaa moment? For instance, the toothbrush holder? The problem is in the interpretation of what he say's. He always talks and post in multi-speak terms he sometimes as he describes them in borderline definition of their original use. So you have to determine if that is his intention, or did he make up a word from others to define what he is hinting at. I have found several times he has done this. The question is did he do it intentionally, and if so how to apply it to known clues he has given. I am a Divergent Thinker, I always come up with multiple answers to any question. I Try to think laterally when in the field, but maintain a divergent thought pattern to use for any contingencies that may arise. Richard, Yes so true! I actually wonder when Forrest said something to the effect of people keep arriving at WWWH and not knowing the significance of it,, That he is talking about either in the poem when we read it, or in our mind's some other way. If so, well he speaks the truth.
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