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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 11, 2017 9:26:15 GMT -5
We have learned from Mike's interview (thanks, Mike) that there are actually three different hunts in this book. Let's discuss!
What are the hunts? Where do you think they are in the book?
Can you differentiate one hunt from another? Pete said you can. How?
What are the potential problems with this?
Was it wise for Pete to announce this before the hunt was solved? When do you think he was planning to announce that there were three hunts in the book? Did something change his mind? Should we have known this from the start?
Thoughts anyone?
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Post by astree on Jun 11, 2017 13:14:32 GMT -5
I first heard about a second (not third) hunt in Pete's 1st live Facebook Q and A (since the start date Feb 8), Feb 15 ( www.facebook.com/BreakfastTeaandBourbon/videos/vb.1804558779762809/1877568252461861/?type=2&theater ). There was a question as to whether Pete would reveal the solution, once the treasure was found. He said it depends on whether the finder reveals the method (or something along that line), because there is a second treasure hidden (or could be hidden) and relates to additional information he could release that would divert the hunt the hunt from present location to another location. |
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Post by Karen on Jun 12, 2017 11:13:21 GMT -5
I remember Pete discussing the 2nd hunt in the video you linked, astree. At the time, I took it to mean that there was enough information in the book to solve the first hunt, but that there was SOME information in the book for a second hunt and that the final steps for that hunt would be contained in the new chapter that he would release later. It never occurred to me that you would actually be able to solve the second hunt with the information in the original book. However, I have found what I think are end-to-end solutions for 2 hunts, and as we now know, there's another hunt thrown in the mix. At this point, I have to assume it can be solved all the way through as well.
Can I differentiate the hunts? I don't think I have found the proper method for doing this. The hunts seem to be very tightly woven together to me.
Was it wise for Pete to announce the existence of 3 hunts before the first hunt was solved? I'm not sure I can answer that. I do think, though, that he should have gone all-in one way or the other. He should have either said absolutely NOTHING about any alternate hunt and only revealed after the primary hunt had been solved, or he should have included right in the introduction to the book the fact that there were 3 hunts, that there was a secret chapter and a hidden chapter that he would release later, and that there was a way to distinguish which hunt was the primary one for the $50k. The latter might have prevented some people from going boots on the ground until they were satisfied that they had solved the primary hunt.
The part about the finder not revealing the solution makes absolutely zero sense to me. I can't imagine Pete wouldn't want to have some post-hunt media interviews. What would he say - 'here's the winner but sorry, we can't reveal the solution because there is another hunt?' And surely the finder wouldn't be able to keep the secret from absolutely everybody, thus providing an unfair advantage to anyone who has information about where they traveled to. I might be misinterpreting Pete's plans, but it seems to me that this wasn't very well thought through.
That's a lot of criticism, but the truth is that I'm enjoying this hunt a lot!
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 12, 2017 17:15:30 GMT -5
1of628, I agree with you in your assessment that Pete included in the book, SOME information for a second hunt, but that a new chapter would be released later. I think there is a hint to this new chapter on page 25 of BTaB. When discussing Sue's belt, it is written:
"Perhaps we'll examine the Mystery of the Belted Rubies in another book, or perhaps later in this one."
I think Pete made a lot of mistakes in designing this hunt, and placing three hunts in one book is the worst mistake of all. It wasn't announced that there are three hunts in the book until just recently, and there is no mention of it in the book itself. So hunters went about trying to solve the hunt using clues for what are possibly three hunts to create a solve for only one hunt. There have been hunters who have gone BOTG and wasted time and money. I find it morally wrong for the writer to do this when all along he was knowingly deceiving people. He knew that his readers were traveling and searching for one location based on clues for three different locations.
Pete claims there are ways to differentiate the three hunts. Now that we know this, I haven't been able to find anything to suggest a differentiation, let alone that there are multiple hunts in the book.
I find myself wondering why Pete decided to come out with the information about the three hunts at this time. The only answer I can come up with is that sales are low. I know this to be a fact because in his most recent video (where he is standing outside among trees), he tells the viewers that he has not made a profit. He asks the viewers to spread the word about his hunt and try to get people to buy his book! I think his original plans were to announce an extra hunt after the first one was solved.
1of628, I am enjoying this hunt too, but I have my reservations about the way it was designed and handled. I could list many more things that make me uncomfortable about this hunt, but I won't, at least not in this thread!
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 30, 2017 14:30:59 GMT -5
The coywonder: you echo my thoughts on the differentiation. Each hunt is in a different timezone. Problem solved. If your city is not on Central time, it's wrong.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 30, 2017 17:31:54 GMT -5
Time zones may be a way to differentiate a city, or hiding place for the treasure, once you have settled on where you think that place may be. But how can you tell which stories in the book belong to which hunt?
For example, we have the Mitchell and Timmy and story. I don't know which hunt that belongs to.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 30, 2017 18:02:03 GMT -5
As far as the three stories, IMO, one is this one, one will be about the Mystery of the Belted Rubies, and one will be about the last three weeks of Nelson's mom's life (maybe one about Fred and Myrtle). As far as February 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm Central Time, TheCoyWonder, you aren't the only one to have this completely figured out... my family and I will be searching here for the next three days, as well. It would be pretty funny to find another searcher here. |
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jun 30, 2017 18:05:56 GMT -5
As far as the three stories, IMO, one is this one, one will be about the Mystery of the Belted Rubies, and one will be about the last three weeks of Nelson's mom's life (maybe one about Fred and Myrtle). As far as February 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm Central Time, TheCoyWonder, you aren't the only one to have this completely figured out... my family and I will be searching here for the next three days, as well. It would be pretty funny to find another searcher here. Best of luck, minotaurmoreno . My find has not been confirmed and thus I could easily be wrong.  Happy hunting and stay safe. Let us know how it goes. |
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 30, 2017 18:09:58 GMT -5
As far as the three stories, IMO, one is this one, one will be about the Mystery of the Belted Rubies, and one will be about the last three weeks of Nelson's mom's life (maybe one about Fred and Myrtle). As far as February 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm Central Time, TheCoyWonder, you aren't the only one to have this completely figured out... my family and I will be searching here for the next three days, as well. It would be pretty funny to find another searcher here. Best of luck, minotaurmoreno . My find has not been confirmed and thus I could easily be wrong. Happy hunting and stay safe. Let us know how it goes. Hahaha, odds say neither of us will find it this weekend, but let's hope one of us gets a little lucky! Would be an awesome story if one of our kid's find it like possibly your daughter! |
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 30, 2017 18:35:12 GMT -5
Definitely the Mystery of the Belted Rubies. But I have another idea for the 3rd hunt.
Minotaurmoreno, I thought you were with a group of hunters. Are you searching for your group?
thecoywonder, how long ago did you report your find to Pete?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 30, 2017 18:41:53 GMT -5
Thecoywonder, have you posted anything on the facebook Breakfast Tea and Bourbon site? If you are waiting to hear back from Pete, you might get his attention by posting there.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 30, 2017 18:48:23 GMT -5
Definitely the Mystery of the Belted Rubies. But I have another idea for the 3rd hunt. Minotaurmoreno, I thought you were with a group of hunters. Are you searching for your group? thecoywonder, how long ago did you report your find to Pete? , completely do have partners and still completely expect to split the pot evenly if my family finds it for this hunt weekend. IMO, I haven't given up anything of real value. As far as TheCoyWonder, strategically speaking, I can only think of two reasons why you would drop this bombshell of a post today and then not tell what your daughter found: 1. You found it a while back, feel guilty about people searching and spending money, so you want people to feel it is very likely already over. 2. You are smart enough to know July 4th weekend is a very likely time for it to be found, can't get to your spot this weekend, and want to put as much doubt out as possible before the big weekend. Again, could be very wrong... just my real thoughts about your post. |
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Post by qigongbaby on Jun 30, 2017 19:03:55 GMT -5
Are all of you (other than Minotaur) as stupid as you seem? How can anyone believe this CoyWonder nonsense.... If CoyWonder felt comfortable enough to share some kind of find then clearly CoyWonder would have posted a picture and disclosed the entirety of the find. I call b.s. on this. Total b.s. Just like so much other b.s. on these boards by people looking to distract and disrupt rather than collaborate.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jun 30, 2017 21:09:42 GMT -5
Wow, that escalated quickly. Haha. So much for being excited and participating.
It's a competitive treasure hunt, I get it.
Happy hunting!
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 30, 2017 21:24:15 GMT -5
Wow, that escalated quickly. Haha. So much for being excited and participating. It's a competitive treasure hunt, I get it. Happy hunting! ...happy trolling!!! |
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Happy hunting and stay safe. Let us know how it goes. 