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Post by rahrah on Jun 24, 2017 19:07:07 GMT -5
Rahrah -- I concur that WWWH is not the first clue. The first clue is in the first stanza, and WWWH cannot be solved without it. I think most searchers spend an inordinate amount of time trying to decipher all the possible "meanings" of words in the poem, perhaps because they lack the imagination to come up with other approaches. An example of this sort of closed-minded thinking is that the "word that is key" must be one of the 166 words in the poem. I'm quite sure it isn't. Forrest has provided this keyword over a hundred times between the poem, TTOTC, TFTW, the Scrapbooks on HoD and the Weekly Words and Q&A here. It's hiding in plain sight, but no one sees it because they aren't "thinking" the right way. It's like that backwards bicycle video that Forrest gave the link for: to successfully ride it you have to retrain your brain. Good luck with your search - I've nailed the first clue and have my solve....if the things I'm posting are of no use for you, just move on, others may find it helpful - and that's the point!
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Post by rahrah on Jun 24, 2017 19:10:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Heidini. I will try to come up with some alternative ways to share information that might encourage searchers to think about the poem in new ways. Perhaps one tack to take would be to start enumerating all of the aberrations/anomalies in the books and Scrapbooks. Forrest has at one time or another suggested that searchers look for things that are different, odd, or just plain wrong. Does he only do this to see if people are paying attention, or are these hints to be deciphered? For instance (and this isn't anything new that I haven't shared before), Important Literature has Border's (sic), Borders and borderline biddies. It also has the erroneous storyline description of For Whom the Bell Tolls which is actually from A Farewell to Arms. Forrest is not so ignorant of Hemingway to make such a blunder. He did it deliberately. It's the searcher's task to figure out why. Important Literature is an important chapter and it does help understand the solve. At least it does mine.
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Post by heidini on Jun 24, 2017 19:18:15 GMT -5
I may have just had a mini epiphany. But I don't want to be contrary. 😉
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Post by rahrah on Jun 25, 2017 10:31:00 GMT -5
Yeah Heidini!!!!
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 25, 2017 17:04:31 GMT -5
Heidini: epiphanies are great! had my first (and most important one) a little over a year ago. Most everything I had done in the preceding year was an utter waste of time -- scouring thousands of 7.5-minute topo maps starting at the Canadian border in Montana and raster scanning my way east-west, north-to-south through the colored regions of Forrest's map, looking for anything that could be construed as a spot for WWWH, home of Brown, heavy loads, water high, blazes, canyons, etc. After probably a thousand hours of this I had made it to the southern third of Colorado when the epiphany came. It was a "why didn't I think of this earlier?" revelation. Perhaps yours is of the same flavor.
I guess I can say that the mind-numbing map exercise wasn't a complete waste because it gave me some rather comprehensive geography exposure to hundreds of thousands of square miles in the Rockies. In doing so, you discover just how many hot and warm springs there are in the Rockies, that none of them is really any more special than the others (Dal's Firehole and Gibbon intersection perhaps being a bit of an outlier), and therefore you could never single out one of them as being "special" and the clear, unambiguous choice for WWWH. It's missing the forest for the trees.
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Post by robjohnson on Jun 28, 2017 13:44:43 GMT -5
My research has shown me that I need to discover what/where/when/why about the clue, then attach the appropriate number to the clue. Waters high is a part of my current solution. Time will tell.
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Post by GEYDELKON on Jun 29, 2017 21:24:05 GMT -5
I like my water comment from my earlier post best. What do you think?
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Post by robjohnson on Jul 2, 2017 7:34:55 GMT -5
My current thinking relies on "water high" in ttotc.
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Post by Bownarrow on Oct 10, 2017 12:21:05 GMT -5
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Post by Bownarrow on May 28, 2019 12:18:51 GMT -5
In Greek "water" is νερό(nero)."Nero" means "black" in Italian
The Hebrew "Elyon" means "high" and is a name of God.
"Water high" therefore could refer to a "black God/black dog"
"Black dog" is an expresssion meaning "depression/melancholy".
"Water high" therfore could refer to a "depression" (in the ground).
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Water High
May 31, 2019 11:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by heidini on May 31, 2019 11:48:29 GMT -5
In Greek "water" is νερό(nero). "Nero" means "black" in Italian
The Hebrew "Elyon" means "high" and is a name of God. "Water high" therefore could refer to a "black God/black dog""Black dog" is an expresssion meaning "depression/melancholy". "Water high" therfore could refer to a "depression" (in the ground). you talking about the black dog reminds me of how everyone used to be focused on the black and white dead dog painting
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Water High
May 31, 2019 17:12:46 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on May 31, 2019 17:12:46 GMT -5
Yep: Gilbert Gaul. GG: FF+1. ;-)
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Post by Bownarrow on May 31, 2019 17:14:06 GMT -5
In Greek "water" is νερό(nero). "Nero" means "black" in Italian
The Hebrew "Elyon" means "high" and is a name of God. "Water high" therefore could refer to a "black God/black dog""Black dog" is an expresssion meaning "depression/melancholy". "Water high" therfore could refer to a "depression" (in the ground). you talking about the black dog reminds me of how everyone used to be focused on the black and white dead dog painting Me too.
Maybe the painting is a clue to "the blaze"?
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Post by Bownarrow on May 31, 2019 17:36:15 GMT -5
Yep: Gilbert Gaul. GG: FF+1. ;-) GG - Gigi - Paris(Gaul)- Mudtown?
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Water High
May 31, 2019 17:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on May 31, 2019 17:39:41 GMT -5
I am currently in Versailles: Paris tomorrow! :-)
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