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Jun 23, 2017 0:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 23, 2017 0:02:52 GMT -5
No bites/theories on a page 135 clue? Based on input from the other BT&B'er that solved it, I'm leaning toward not expanding on the hints because there may be a number of people who like this city -- if not for Pete's puzzle #1, then still a strong candidate for city #2 or #3.
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Jun 23, 2017 9:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 23, 2017 9:01:29 GMT -5
I haven't had a chance to check out page 135 yet. Been a little busy... I will look at it today and share my thoughts later. I am very curious about it.
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Post by toppop on Jun 23, 2017 11:34:15 GMT -5
Well, to start, just give the word or words you think R are clues don't solve it for us, and do not tell us your idea, let us see for ourselves what we come up with seperatley. As far as New Zealand, that was going to be in the book no matter where the treasure city is, so I would not try to use it very much, that's where the frogs came from, right.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 23, 2017 13:26:53 GMT -5
What I have found on page 135 is a description of the Polar Race. If you look up the finishing time, you will find that those exact times were for a team of two people, Raymond Aaron and Roddy Caxton-Spencer in 2007. But neither of them were aged 60, and of course neither were named Robert. So my question is, who is Robert?
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 23, 2017 14:30:11 GMT -5
What I have found on page 135 is a description of the Polar Race. If you look up the finishing time, you will find that those exact times were for a team of two people, Raymond Aaron and Roddy Caxton-Spencer in 2007. But neither of them were aged 60, and of course neither were named Robert. So my question is, who is Robert? Nice find! I don't know that it will help, but Raymond Aaron is pb's friend , was one of the people pb went to Bali w/, and one of the frogs in his frogrynth is named after.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 24, 2017 15:20:32 GMT -5
GeneticBlend: the paragraph describing the Polar Race is indeed where the clue is hidden. Two posters have contacted me that independently found the same solution, and one of them has actually been there.
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Post by astree on Jun 24, 2017 17:15:33 GMT -5
What I have found on page 135 is a description of the Polar Race. If you look up the finishing time, you will find that those exact times were for a team of two people, Raymond Aaron and Roddy Caxton-Spencer in 2007. But neither of them were aged 60, and of course neither were named Robert. So my question is, who is Robert? Nice find! I don't know that it will help, but Raymond Aaron is pb's friend , was one of the people pb went to Bali w/, and one of the frogs in his frogrynth is named after. fyi - Here's an interview that Pete had, conducted by Raymond.
www.facebook.com/raymondaaronmentor/videos/1358236750866328/
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Post by astree on Jun 24, 2017 17:19:58 GMT -5
I noticed that the paragraph following the Polar Race paragraph had the word "for" 4 times. And, it was the 4th word in each sentence.
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Post by TxTH on Jun 25, 2017 18:19:00 GMT -5
I would like to add something to this discussion and hope I don't offend anyone too much. I agree with GeneticBlend about what to do in the case of BT&B. I personally would have a hard time not revealing it immediately if I found the treasure because of the "other" treasure hunters and saving them needless expenses in searching for something that is no longer there. However, I also believe that unless you have teamed up with specific individuals and have an agreement in place, there is no such thing as "fellow treasure hunters". There is no obligation on anyone's part to share information with anyone and those, like myself, that choose to post information on forums such as Mysterious Writings do so completely of our own freewill with no strings attached. To think that anyone has any kind of "obligation" to the group that posts here is wrong in my opinion. There are probably plenty of people that are searching for all of the different treasures out there for us to find that never say a word, but benefit from our posts because we choose to release our information in a public place. I also do not believe it is right to censor someone that chooses to release the details of their search and clues found if they choose to do so. If they release clues you have solved it is highly likely that many other people have also found them. Can you imagine how many people have already been searching in Minnesota, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Louisiana just to name a few? I know for a fact that a place I have searched has been searched many times and will be searched many more times I am sure. For some reason, I feel like the treasure has been found and someone is actually waiting for the extra $5,000.00 to become available. (I am still searching though!) If you are in it for the money that makes complete sense. Why throw away $5,000.00? If other people choose to search after you found it, that was their choice, hoping they beat you. There are no guarantees made to anyone that the treasure will be there when you choose to go look. You should know about the August benefit too. I think that some people (definitely nowhere near the majority) that post in forums like Jenny's and Dal's sites become possessive of the hunts and think they "own" them and are therefore "entitled" when that is absolutely not true at all. Each individual participating in a hunt has their own objectives such as enjoying getting out in nature, researching the Internet, the thrill of the chase, win at all costs, etc and every single one of them is a valid reason, whether we agree with them or not. It is not for us to judge other searchers and I sincerely wish everyone the best of luck. I would be thrilled to read someone found Fenn's chest or solved Fandango or any of the other hunts in which I am actively participating. As for me, I have not found any of the treasures but I keep on looking. Again, I am not trying to point fingers at anyone, but simply hoping to show that there are many views and directions people choose to follow when they participate in these hunts and we should all be tolerant of each other. Good luck and keep on searching! TxTH
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Jun 25, 2017 20:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 25, 2017 20:14:56 GMT -5
I agree with everything you posted. Yes, we all have a right to act the eay we do, and we have the right to post the things we want to post. I know there are no rules, but there often seems to be an "unspoken" etiquete between treasure hunters. We are all here for the same reason, and there should be some mutual respect. But not everyone holds to the same standards.
I understand that someone could have found the treasure already, and is waiting for that August deadline to pass before they turn it in. I think that was a poor design by the author, and any hunter has the right to hold off turning the treasure in so that they can get that extra $5,000. I don't think the author had intended someone to wait. I think he thought the money would be an incentive to end the hunt had it gone on past August, not to drag it out to August.
Would I drag out the hunt for an extra $5,000? No. I can honestly say that I would not. I have participated in many treasure hunts. I know what it is like to go on a search and spend time and money doing so. I know of many people who are going on searches for this hunt or who have plans to do so. If I had already found the treasure, I could not just sit back, biding time, when I know people are out there working hard on this hunt, putting in a lot of time and effort, and possibly money into this hunt to travel. More money than the $5,000 would be wasted by the many people looking for something that isn't there. I think it would be rude to knowingly allow people to continue to search if you had the treasure in your hand. A decent human being would not treat others that way.
I think the treasure is found. And I think it will be turned in after August 9th. I also think the solve is Hot Springs, Arkansas.
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Post by TxTH on Jun 25, 2017 20:19:35 GMT -5
I agree with everything you posted. Yes, we all have a right to act the eay we do, and we have the right to post the things we want to post. I know there are no rules, but there often seems to be an "unspoken" etiquete between treasure hunters. We are all here for the same reason, and there should be some mutual respect. But not everyone holds to the same standards. I understand that someone could have found the treasure already, and is waiting for that August deadline to pass before they turn it in. I think that was a poor design by the author, and any hunter has the right to hold off turning the treasure in so that they can get that extra $5,000. I don't think the author had intended someone to wait. I think he thought the money would be an incentive to end the hunt had it gone on past August, not to drag it out to August. Would I drag out the hunt for an extra $5,000? No. I can honestly say that I would not. I have participated in many treasure hunts. I know what it is like to go on a search and spend time and money doing so. I know of many people who are going on searches for this hunt or who have plans to do so. If I had already found the treasure, I could not just sit back, biding time, when I know people are out there working hard on this hunt, putting in a lot of time and effort, and possibly money into this hunt to travel. More money than the $5,000 would be wasted by the many people looking for something that isn't there. I think it would be rude to knowingly allow people to continue to search if you had the treasure in your hand. A decent human being would not treat others that way. I think the treasure is found. And I think it will be turned in after August 9th. I also think the solve is Hot Springs, Arkansas. !00% agreement with you on what you just said and your solve.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:33:41 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 25, 2017 20:33:41 GMT -5
I don't think the hand-crafted object is in Hot Springs, AR. There are not nearly enough clues for this city. As far as anyone retrieving the object but sitting on it until August for an extra 10%, I'm not worried about it. I think it is an unlikely scenario. Such a searcher risks being caught in a lie should a second searcher figure out the clues, go to the spot they know the object must be, not finding it (in July, say), and reporting their experience to Pete with photos.
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Post by TxTH on Jun 25, 2017 21:14:01 GMT -5
Actually, there are several clues that lead to Hot Springs, including one very specific confirmer clue. (Not the Hodaddy clue) My opinion is in contrast to yours in that I think it would be highly probable someone would hold on to the object, especially at this point in time. It is only 6 1/2 weeks until August 9th so it would not be that long to hold on to it. Pete says "If the treasure is not turned in by...". He says nothing about when it is found. Would you wait 6 1/2 weeks to turn it in for an extra $5,000.00? That's a lot of money for most people so I think if it was found recently, or even if it was found back in March, someone would possibly hold on to it. It would be an additional $5,000.00 to help pay the taxes on it if nothing else. The problem becomes moral to some people, me included, as to whether you let people continue searching needlessly or spread the word it has been found. Pretty soon (Aug. 9th) this issue will be moot.
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Post by razorback on Jun 25, 2017 23:03:55 GMT -5
I think Pete said there are maybe 15 different ways to solve where in the U.S. the treasure is located. As much as I would like Hot Springs, Arkansas to be the treasure location, there aren't anywhere near 15 clues for Hot Springs. However, there are at least 15 clues for New Orleans and New York City.
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Post by astree on Jun 26, 2017 7:13:37 GMT -5
I have multiple locations, each with over 10 solid ID. For example, on location has two places named in the book (in multiple ways) near where I believe the object is hidden. They line up at 210 degrees bearing, and are from a rock ledge to where the boys are told to look in "Do You Have a Compass". Second location does not have this, but has other. There are many other explicit for this location (#1).
This makes it extremely difficult to differentiate, because the second location #2 has other extremely strong mentions and confirmers.
To give an example which I would consider a weak confirmer (and non-local), a highway / Interstate 80 would correspond to "Level 80" ( a horizontal route ) and should go through the location.
I believe Pete has several places in the clues, and somehow we are supposed to differentiate. I have not figured out how. In the example above, the boys are to walk 68 feet after taking the bearing, but Nels' group take 190 paces (??, if I got that correct) - they are both at a rock ledge. These may be for two different hunts.
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