toppop
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Post by toppop on Jul 21, 2017 22:01:47 GMT -5
That's some good work to dig out crummy clues as that, if they turnout to be clues
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Post by hearmeall on Jul 22, 2017 11:45:37 GMT -5
Hi toppop - I found so many connections that led to a specific public place that it was highly unlikely not to be the place where the object was hidden.
For example the Wine Shoppe in the book connected with a grocery store called King's Grocery. Since "shoppe" is an old English spelling and king's are English I figured this was very likely because this store sits on Jeff Davis Ave., which matches up with Nel's friend Jeff who died of AIDS and was mentioned several times in the book. I also found many other connections in the area that I searched. Some were quite clever. In the area that I searched on my second trip, I had angels and also a plaque that said "let the angels lead you into paradise." Both matches with the book. The precise spot I walked to was just left of a scarecrow and the "rock" formation was a beautiful blue, much like a Persian blue. I did find an object at this spot that matched with the story and figured it was the object so I didn't look any further. After I was informed that my object fit with the story but was not the object, I kicked myself pretty hard because I think the flute was within a foot of where I picked up this other object. I actually had someone that was going to check this spot the other day but since we got word that the object was found last Friday, my hopes were dashed.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 22, 2017 11:51:04 GMT -5
There is really no need to be rude to other hunters. We all have our own ideas and each of us have a valid voice. Some of us are going to be right and some of us are going to be incorrect, but regardless, we should be decent to one another.
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Post by hearmeall on Jul 22, 2017 12:11:05 GMT -5
Hi thecoywonder - I completely agree. I apologize if you felt like I was being rude. I was just sharing some of the connections that I had made whether they be right or wrong.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 22, 2017 12:12:59 GMT -5
Hearmeall, It wasn't directed at you, but rather in defense of you... and everyone else.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 22, 2017 12:38:00 GMT -5
hearmeall, I found something interesting in the book related to angels that you might like. I will send you a message.
thecoywonder, I totally agree. These forums are made for treasure hunters to come together as a community. They should support one another. Hunters will have different ideas, and people can disagree, but there is no reason to be rude.
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Post by TxTH on Jul 23, 2017 17:37:30 GMT -5
THE TREASURE WAS NOT IN HOT SPRINGS. SO STOP ALL THIS WASTED NONSENSE. Hey, I just saw this. I didn't realize that. Where was it qigongbaby?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 24, 2017 0:13:13 GMT -5
Txtg: Qigong has no clue where the flute was, so just ignore his/her all caps. If he/she(?) knew the city, they would have said so.
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Post by TxTH on Jul 24, 2017 10:06:56 GMT -5
Hey zaphod73491, I figured as much. I was just calling him out on how ridiculous his statement is. Unless he found it he has no clue where it is and certainly cannot claim it was not in Hot Springs or anywhere else. It may not be in Hot Springs but he sure doesn't know where it is. However, I am sure AFTER the location is released he can come back and tell us all where it was and he knew it all along.
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troye
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Post by troye on Jul 24, 2017 10:15:45 GMT -5
If it was in Rayne, La, I will be so pissed. That is 20 minutes from me, it is the closest town to the town I grew up in and I was in that town earlier this year visiting a friend!!
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Post by cowlazars on Jul 24, 2017 11:50:00 GMT -5
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toppop
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Post by toppop on Jul 24, 2017 17:22:32 GMT -5
Hi thecoywonder - I completely agree. I apologize if you felt like I was being rude. I was just sharing some of the connections that I had made whether they be right or wrong. That was good work on what I feel are crummy clues, I too had some for the place I had someone search. I, and you can say " it's Pete's crummy clues, I did not write them just solved them, thank you!" LOL
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 24, 2017 20:52:59 GMT -5
Pete's Crummy Clues
I feel like this topic could use a little discussion.
I think the problem with Pete's clues were that in most cases, you could not differentiate what was intended to be a clue, and what was not a clue. Sometimes the character was telling a story about something that happened in the past. Did this really happen? Or was it a clue? Sometimes things in the book were just so weird that you would tell yourself, this HAD to be a clue. I found myself researching almost every little thing in the book. Were we meant to do this?
Eventually, what I found, was that once I started researching things, I would find a common thread between some things. Sometimes I had to dig deep to find that thread. Subjects that had something in common couldn't always be a coincidence, or could they? Then I would ask myself, should I really have to be doing this? Was this hunt set up so that we would only be able to solve this by researching these odd stories that Pete put together?
But then I would come across something totally different that also had a common thread. How could that be? I started to have my doubts about this hunt. There were too many clues. Some pointed to one major place. Other clues pointed to another place. And there were other minor locations too!
When Pete announced that there were three hunts in the book, and not just one, my first reaction was to be angry. I wondered why he hadn't told us that from the very beginning. But after I let it sink in, the clues seemed to make more sense to me. There was more than one common thread because there was more than one hunt in the book.
SO...Are the clues crummy? I don't think so. I think the clues are clever and multi-leveled. But what IS crummy is the way that Pete decided to tell us about the clues and the different hunts. I think if Pete would have been honest and straight-forward about there being three hunts in this one book from the very beginning, the clues wouldn't seem to be crummy. We could have organized our thought processes to approach the entire hunt differently. Then, the clues wouldn't seem so chaotic.
Thoughts anyone?
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toppop
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Post by toppop on Jul 24, 2017 22:57:39 GMT -5
Well there may be two more hunts, I hope so,so we need to learn how Pete gives us clues, naw, best to wait and see how he explaines this hunts clues. But I just can't buy Reynolds street, from cooking Salmon,sorry,but it is a good dig at that.
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Post by astree on Jul 25, 2017 6:21:32 GMT -5
Pete's Crummy Clues When Pete announced that there were three hunts in the book, and not just one, my first reaction was to be angry. I wondered why he hadn't told us that from the very beginning. But after I let it sink in, the clues seemed to make more sense to me. There was more than one common thread because there was more than one hunt in the book. SO...Are the clues crummy? I don't think so. I think the clues are clever and multi-leveled. But what IS crummy is the way that Pete decided to tell us about the clues and the different hunts. I think if Pete would have been honest and straight-forward about there being three hunts in this one book from the very beginning, the clues wouldn't seem to be crummy. We could have organized our thought processes to approach the entire hunt differently. Then, the clues wouldn't seem so chaotic. Thoughts anyone?
It may be semantics. Pete said in several interviews that the clues are found by reading between the lines. That a very loose statement. There are probably hundreds of potential clues between the lines.
GRU-worth Made Fresh Each Morning Bicentennial Tree Moms on Strike The bathroom in the Butterscotch Clipper (mentioned multiple times) Wine Shoppe The B's in the book
A simple cipher on the "Et4u..." is A BEE I LOST (from arranging letters and numbers in alphabetical order, and using only the sensible). Because of all the emphasis on B's in the book, was this a clue, a red herring, or a random find? If it's random, it shows that the book wasn't vetted. It is too strong to be a red herring. Was he talking about a spelling BEE because of the "cypher" spelling?
etc etc
Almost EVERYTHING may have been a clue.
The semantics part - the actual clues may have been solid (e.g., HOT SPRINGS with the Hinds, The Camel hint) but difficult.
The problem was filtering out all the stuff that looked like clues, but were not supposed to be.
Like you mentioned, too, the 7-degrees-to-Kevin-Bacon effect made it extremely difficult to do that.
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