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Post by longfellow on Apr 10, 2020 12:50:35 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been suggested yet, but could “heavy loads” be a reference to the 2 trips that forrest’s took from his car to the hiding location? The heavy load being the chest and contents, pluralized because he made two trips. I would love thoughts/feedback. Forrest flat out tells everyone what to look for with heavy loads in his last memoir "Once Upon A While." He's not even subtle about it. Read the chapter about Doug Hyde.
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Post by theoretical on Apr 10, 2020 12:50:42 GMT -5
Heavy Loads are two of my favorite words in the poem as they highlight how well FF crafted the poem and the solve to the chase. There are numerous possible interpretations just to these two words whether it is physical, spiritual, metaphorical, semantical, etc. I can only say “well played” to Forrest on these two words as it seems likely he was well aware of the potential confusion they would cause. Well played indeed!
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Post by lbkgoat on Apr 10, 2020 13:16:45 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been suggested yet, but could “heavy loads” be a reference to the 2 trips that forrest’s took from his car to the hiding location? The heavy load being the chest and contents, pluralized because he made two trips. I would love thoughts/feedback. Forrest flat out tells everyone what to look for with heavy loads in his last memoir "Once Upon A While." He's not even subtle about it. Read the chapter about Doug Hyde. So tell us, don’t keep me wondering
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Post by longfellow on Apr 10, 2020 15:11:31 GMT -5
Forrest flat out tells everyone what to look for with heavy loads in his last memoir "Once Upon A While." He's not even subtle about it. Read the chapter about Doug Hyde. So tell us, don’t keep me wondering
I don't want to deprive Forrest of book sales, or anyone else the pleasure of reading his stories. If you don't own it yet, time's-a-wasting. Don't worry, with everybody in lock-down, the treasure probably won't get retrieved before you receive your copy. Even it were retrieved, the books are still worth owning and reading.
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 10, 2020 15:29:14 GMT -5
Forrest flat out tells everyone what to look for with heavy loads in his last memoir "Once Upon A While." He's not even subtle about it. Read the chapter about Doug Hyde. So tell us, don’t keep me wondering In case you don't have the book, Doug Hyde was a stone sculptor. Forrest has one alabaster sculpture of a pueblo woman holding a pot on his living room fireplace. The other he owns is of a Nez Perce chief facing the wall in his kitchen. He imagines tears of sorrow building in the eyes of the chief. Not sure what longfellow had in mind...
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 10, 2020 15:35:58 GMT -5
So tell us, don’t keep me wondering
I don't want to deprive Forrest of book sales, or anyone else the pleasure of reading his stories. If you don't own it yet, time's-a-wasting. Don't worry, with everybody in lock-down, the treasure probably won't get retrieved before you receive your copy. Even it were retrieved, the books are still worth owning and reading. Not everyone owns all of the memoirs. I don't think Forrest expected every searcher to purchase every book. Probably not possible for every redneck with a pick up and 12 kids let alone half this searcher community so if you are going to post a provocative statement backing it up would be helpful. The books are worth owning if you can afford them.
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Post by lbkgoat on Apr 10, 2020 15:48:38 GMT -5
I don't want to deprive Forrest of book sales, or anyone else the pleasure of reading his stories. If you don't own it yet, time's-a-wasting. Don't worry, with everybody in lock-down, the treasure probably won't get retrieved before you receive your copy. Even it were retrieved, the books are still worth owning and reading. Not everyone owns all of the memoirs. I don't think Forrest expected every searcher to purchase every book. Probably not possible for every redneck with a pick up and 12 kids let alone half this searcher community so if you are going to post a provocative statement backing it up would be helpful. The books are worth owning if you can afford them. Thanks Goldilocks! The only books I’ve ever felt I needed were TTOTC, and to see the cover of OUAW
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 10, 2020 16:06:57 GMT -5
I don't want to deprive Forrest of book sales, or anyone else the pleasure of reading his stories. If you don't own it yet, time's-a-wasting. Don't worry, with everybody in lock-down, the treasure probably won't get retrieved before you receive your copy. Even it were retrieved, the books are still worth owning and reading. Not everyone owns all of the memoirs. I don't think Forrest expected every searcher to purchase every book. Probably not possible for every redneck with a pick up and 12 kids let alone half this searcher community so if you are going to post a provocative statement backing it up would be helpful. The books are worth owning if you can afford them. In the case of OUAW, the main things you'll miss by not having the book(s) are the graphics and Forrest's doodles. The text for all those stories can be found online, primarily in Scrapbooks (with some minor word changes here and there). For instance, the OUAW chapter on Doug Hyde comes from SB 181:
Note the rather telling change in title from the Scrapbook to OUAW, however.
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Post by longfellow on Apr 10, 2020 16:10:10 GMT -5
I don't want to deprive Forrest of book sales, or anyone else the pleasure of reading his stories. If you don't own it yet, time's-a-wasting. Don't worry, with everybody in lock-down, the treasure probably won't get retrieved before you receive your copy. Even it were retrieved, the books are still worth owning and reading. Not everyone owns all of the memoirs. I don't think Forrest expected every searcher to purchase every book. Probably not possible for every redneck with a pick up and 12 kids let alone half this searcher community so if you are going to post a provocative statement backing it up would be helpful. The books are worth owning if you can afford them. I guess I miscalculated. I wasn’t trying to blow anybody off, just seems more fun to me to go dig out the hints from the stories. Here’s my quick view of what’s important about that chapter. Bold added for emphasis. First of all, the title of the chapter is “Doug Hyde in Stone.” Hide in stone... Secondly, in the handwritten caption at the bottom of the last page of that chapter Forrest writes, “When I first met Doug Hyde he was a stone sculptor, and rocks are a heavy medium. His son, Buffalo, was born with only one arm, but was more than capable of moving heavy pieces around his father’s studio.”
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 10, 2020 20:14:40 GMT -5
Not everyone owns all of the memoirs. I don't think Forrest expected every searcher to purchase every book. Probably not possible for every redneck with a pick up and 12 kids let alone half this searcher community so if you are going to post a provocative statement backing it up would be helpful. The books are worth owning if you can afford them. I guess I miscalculated. I wasn’t trying to blow anybody off, just seems more fun to me to go dig out the hints from the stories. Here’s my quick view of what’s important about that chapter. Bold added for emphasis. First of all, the title of the chapter is “Doug Hyde in Stone.” Hide in stone... Secondly, in the handwritten caption at the bottom of the last page of that chapter Forrest writes, “When I first met Doug Hyde he was a stone sculptor, and rocks are a heavy medium. His son, Buffalo, was born with only one arm, but was more than capable of moving heavy pieces around his father’s studio.” Hi Longfellow: yes, that's the biggest hint in my opinion -- the title change from "Doug Hyde in Full Flourish." I provided a pretty lengthy list here months ago with all the stone connections, especially the names of people that Forrest has mentioned. Einstein, Gloria Steinem, Peter Lorre (look up his real name), Greg Perino, E. Lichenstein (sic) Wholesale Grocery, and so on.
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Post by heidini on Apr 10, 2020 21:15:28 GMT -5
We had a good thread going.
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Post by longfellow on Apr 12, 2020 15:44:28 GMT -5
I guess I miscalculated. I wasn’t trying to blow anybody off, just seems more fun to me to go dig out the hints from the stories. Here’s my quick view of what’s important about that chapter. Bold added for emphasis. First of all, the title of the chapter is “Doug Hyde in Stone.” Hide in stone... Secondly, in the handwritten caption at the bottom of the last page of that chapter Forrest writes, “When I first met Doug Hyde he was a stone sculptor, and rocks are a heavy medium. His son, Buffalo, was born with only one arm, but was more than capable of moving heavy pieces around his father’s studio.” Hi Longfellow: yes, that's the biggest hint in my opinion -- the title change from "Doug Hyde in Full Flourish." I provided a pretty lengthy list here months ago with all the stone connections, especially the names of people that Forrest has mentioned. Einstein, Gloria Steinem, Peter Lorre (look up his real name), Greg Perino, E. Lichenstein (sic) Wholesale Grocery, and so on. Zap: Thanks for that; it’s new inform/conform-ation for me. I had not made the Stein/stone connection.
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Post by Jenny on Apr 22, 2020 16:12:38 GMT -5
For reference, and to place in this thread, it was mentioned elsewhere that on the Dust Jacket of TTOTC, Forrest describes the chest as heavy, and since he did make two trips, Heavy Loads could be the chest.....
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Post by CJ on Apr 24, 2020 22:40:03 GMT -5
I always liked my explanation in the Alamo solve...about heavy loads being the cannons and water high being the river too high to cross - preventing troops from reaching the Alamo....there'll be no paddle up your creek....
I also saw a water mill today and I thought that this might be an interesting interpretation. Years ago, we had one of those in my hometown.
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Post by astree on Apr 25, 2020 6:57:33 GMT -5
For reference, and to place in this thread, it was mentioned elsewhere that on the Dust Jacket of TTOTC, Forrest describes the chest as heavy, and since he did make two trips, Heavy Loads could be the chest..... Reference to the treasure is made throughout the poem so that would make sense. I think it probably has more than one meaning and that’s without even going to homonyms. www.dictionary.com/browse/lodes?s=t
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