My interpration of the grid involves swapping numbers for symbols, and symbols for numbers. The result is
51 28 No(rth) es (is) fini (the finish)
This, taken as a latitude and combined with the meridian places us in the heart of Greenwich Park.
The issues with it are: its a bit obvious, the red fish nearby, and the fact that we need a start point not a finish.
I do like any theory involving Greenwich Park though as, not only is near Pete's house and probably where he took his kids, but the features of the park tick all the boxes (maritime museum, observatory, meridian, roman ruins, site of olympic events
51 28 No (51 28 North) Es (East) Fini (finishes/ "Fini" = Italian for ends)
Last two lines of the poem: "East is East and West is West And ne'er the twain shall meet"
Twain means two, so you can read it as "and never the two shall meet"
The slogan for the Greenwich Meridian is "where east meets west"
I'm trying another way of solving this riddle, because I also think it is a key.
51 28 102 END INFINITY 99 9 49 33/93/53
It's really eye catching that there is no number in the middle. and the left eight is looking like the infinity symbol. The question of this page is "Where does it all end?" Our universe ends in infinity. Numbers end in infinity. Philosophically I think eternity is a key to the oracle. In physics black holes are infinite for an example. back to the riddle: When it ends in infinity you can start at this position with a chess knight and it will end there clockwise and anti-clockwise. The horse and chess belong together I think.
Hi Neil, I hope that you are well and still working on The Oracle. I had a thought the other day that relates to your ideas about solving the grid in the Egypt picture... The second box has Ni written in it and you have interrupted this to mean 28. This however may be wrong. Pete's last clue generates the letters INONTI which don't make much sense but if read in reverse says IT NO NI. This leads me to think that 28 is wrong and part of the solution is to find an alternative. What that is I'm not quite sure. But at least this potentially solves Pete's last clue.
Yep. Still working on it... though less vocally as I can no longer see the official forum!
I think if Pete wanted his hint to say that, he would have added lines so that the initals read "INTON(S)TI". I also think he would not have made us have to reverse them.That said, if that was what he was hinting at, I'd argue that it reinforces my theory. In other words, he's saying "it's 28, not Ni"
I originally thought part 3 of the clue required us to take first words (of the 4 sentences, not 6 lines) to yield "it's noon tomorrow". I am not overly confident in that, but have yet to come up with anything better!
Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Jan 30, 2019 9:50:34 GMT -5
I always though the square equated to 51 28 No Des Fini. You are just flip flopping the the numbers with periodic elements and periodic elements with numbers. IN the middle is a morse code symbol for the letter D (- . .) Assuming that the "gree" is missing from degrees (Des), it only makes sense that the lat/long goes into Greenwich Park. Fini means Finished or Final in French. Just my two cents.
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For the clues 31 to 33: I also think, that MAJOR SECRET refers to the last clue 33: INONIT. Well the book is full of anagrams. Why not this word? The word that is making sense is "tinnio" which is latin and means "I ring" or "I sound". In case Marc figured out that it's a CD before the clues 31-33 came out - I think this is referring to the X-Spot. What could make a sound? Church Bells, BigBen, The London-Longplayer ....
Can someone with better eyesight than me confirm what the numbers are?
Sb Ni 102 . ( ) 89 9 49 53
convert the numbers into letters using the periodic table and you get
Sb Ni No . ( ) Ac F In I
with a small bit of playing with anagrams I see the word FIBONACI (wrong spelling should be Fibonacci) What makes me not dismiss this is that 89 is a number in the Fibonacci sequence and this number has been given a line of its own with two preceding 'blanks'. If we were to assume there should be two numbers or two chemical symbols before it
The two numbers that proceed 89 in the sequence are 34 and 55, When converted via the periodic table you get Se and Cs
Last Edit: Jun 10, 2019 14:29:33 GMT -5 by efanton
I dont have the numbers to hand, but you will see what I made them below (together with my interpretation of them)... I took the view that if we swap numbers for symbols we should also swap symbols for numbers.
51 28 No(rth) es (is) fini (the finish)
Curiously, this combined with the meridian places firmly in Greenwich Park.
However, beware the red fish that appears near this grid.
I saw your solution earlier and have to say it does make sense.
I get the feeling that some of the images give location data, others time/date, and others are there just to throw us off (the red herrings).
If we are to assume (and yes its an assumption that could well be wrong) the the first four digits are the time and the final six are the coordinate then using the meridian makes perfect sense. HH:MM for time DD,MM,SS for coord on the meridan The would lead to the location being somewhere on the meridian between Greenwich Park Street to the north and Baizdon Rd to the South
Why so many images, when all we need is 6 more digits for your solution(two for the seconds in the coordinate, and 4 for the time).
There's 11 images in total and I find it hard to believe so many would be red herrings
If you are right it might imply that we are to go on a 'journey' With your completed coordinate as a start point.
Last Edit: Jun 10, 2019 18:13:02 GMT -5 by efanton
Going with what the clues point out, I'd say the important pictures are Big Bang, Crucifixion, Pyramids, Oracle, Russians, and possibly Romans (although the kids finding this part of the story "familiar" could literally be them walking up the garden path).
Oracle and Crucifixion seem to be the ones hinted at the most from the clues so naturally that's where the basis of my main focus has been. The rest don't seem to get a mention (unless others can tie in mentions from the clues to specific pictures)
Two pictures I don't think have any relevance are the Plague and Columbus pictures, it might just be me but none of the official clues seem to have any links to them and I've barely considered them in my own theories so I've tended to believe these are "up the garden path" pictures.
Post by findingthetruth on Sept 17, 2019 3:56:36 GMT -5
the pyramid in front says "cross the line", could a mirror be put across the minus sign? or could the minus be changed into a plus? put a mirror half way across the letters i cant read it good enough. upside down it read it 701 in 95 ( 1995)
Post by buryblackpudding on Jan 1, 2020 5:01:18 GMT -5
There is a lot of talk about Greenwich, however I believe this has been based purely on the 3x3 grid on the pyramid drawing. I believe the grid translates to 51.28° N,0° E, which gives a location just off the B2024 near Titsey/Caterham. The road is called The Ridge, and where is the red fish located...? I also believe that Fini confirms that this clue is a dead end, and is therefore one of the red herrings.
As an alternative, the 23rd official clue asks, 'where is the cross?'. The actual cross used in Jesus's crucifixion is known as the true cross (face the truth) and was reported to have been found by St. Helena in 326. As nice as it would be to have the token located on a tropical island, what if its location was actually St. Helens in Merseyside? In which case a lot of people are barking up the wrong tree in Greenwich.