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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 21, 2018 12:56:55 GMT -5
This clue is posted in the "Clues" section, but I thought it might deserve its own thread. What do you think about it?
30th, and last Official Clue - 22nd March 2017
Part 1 of 3
My friends, it's sad for me to have to write these words
And now the time has come to give the final clue
Journey has been fun and now we're nearly through
On the way I've had my thrills
Riding on the wave
30th, and last Official Clue - 24th August 2017
Part 2 of 3
So where to next?
Everyone is perplexed
Come forth with your answers
Remember, the course must be charted
Every day brings a new surprise
This task is not for the faint hearted
30th, and Last Official Clue - 12th February 2018
Part 3 of 3
It's been 12 long years since we started
No one yet has found the prize
On a beautiful summer's morn
New hope arises with the dawn
Tomorrow, the highland dancers
In glorious ecstasy and joyful abandon
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Post by Neil on Jun 21, 2018 15:02:46 GMT -5
Again, repeating something I put on the main forum.
The third clue does not follow the acrostic nature of the first two. However, looking at the first words of sentences...
It's been 12 long years since we started
No one yet has found the prize
On a beautiful summer's morn New hope arises with the dawn
Tomorrow, the highland dancers In glorious ecstasy and joyful abandon
Well, if we need a date/time for any reason, maybe "It's noon tomorrow" ?
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Post by Karen on Jun 21, 2018 17:04:51 GMT -5
Not sure if it's relevant but, at the time the clue was posted, more than 12 long years had passed since we started. True - 13 or 14 depending on what month the book was published in 2004. |
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Post by zupzel on Jun 21, 2018 17:18:42 GMT -5
Hmm noon tomorrow would be Shrove Tuesday. Any relevance? Probably not hehehe.
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Post by Neil on Jun 21, 2018 17:41:59 GMT -5
In the "six questions" interview in March 2017 he stated that he had written the final clue(s) and was almost ready to publish it. He made us wait nearly a year for that last part, and posted several times on the forum that it would be "coming soon".
As it had already been written, and as we was posting regularly that it was coming I can only assume that he need to wait to release it on a specific date. If so, then something like "tomorrow" would make sense. Also, the fact that "tomorrow" wasn't just a random day maybe reinforces that.
The scottish theme remains a mystery to me though.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 21, 2018 20:34:22 GMT -5
What about "Riding the wave"?
Does anyone have any ideas about the wave?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 21, 2018 20:37:32 GMT -5
Tomorrow, the highland dancers
In glorious ecstasy and joyful abandon
These last two lines don't make sense to me. They don't fit the rest of the poem, and they are an incomplete sentence. The one line has 4 words, and the other has six....
I have a nagging feeling that these are important.
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Post by Neil on Jun 22, 2018 1:43:52 GMT -5
What about "Riding the wave"? Does anyone have any ideas about the wave? One thing that kept jumping out at me was the similarity between the two lines: "on the way I've" and "on the wave" |
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 22, 2018 20:00:56 GMT -5
Just an observation...
The first letters of the third part are I N O N T I.
We find these repeated in some of the first words in that same part of the clue: IN, NO, ON, and IT (backwards TI).
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Post by Marc on Jun 23, 2018 2:55:59 GMT -5
If we link this with Neil's solution to the Nile grid. We can turn the I N O N T I into atomic numbers...
In = 49
O = 8
N = 7
Ti = 22
OR it might be combined this way...
I = 53
N = 7
O = 8
N = 7
Ti = 22
OR...
I = 53
No = 102
N = 7
Ti =22
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Post by cwclion on Jun 23, 2018 13:57:32 GMT -5
One thing that I think is overlooked on the "Final Clues" is if you count the 3 part clue as 3 separate clues Pete has then given officially 33 clues. If you could it as 1 he then offically gave 30 clues. Those are the ages that are debated of how old Jesus was when he died on the cross. I don't think it is by accident he decided to stop at a specific number of clues.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 23, 2018 18:16:05 GMT -5
Hi cwclion! Thanks for joining us here!
I agree that the numbers 30 and 33 seem to be important.
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Post by xodiak on Jul 8, 2020 8:17:05 GMT -5
The last two lines of the final clue are strange. Over two years later and I still have no idea what Pete is getting at.
However, I think there are multiple small clues in the 3 parts of clue 30 and I think the overall solution is an anagram. I can't really see why else Pete would choose a rhyme that gives MAJOR and SECRET for the first two verses, but a random string of letters for the third verse. I believe the anagram solution is Major Intersection. I've had several ideas over the last couple of years what this might mean but it hasn't really helped me much. My current favourite is that it means the token is located on the prime meridian i.e. the intersection of East and West. The prime meridian has been discussed many times on the forums so it's possible Pete was giving us an extra nudge in that direction? But it could easily mean something else.
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Post by tess on Jul 8, 2020 11:27:47 GMT -5
Oh I love that. I've had no idea what to do with that final clue but it could be linked to the Kipling quote in the Precession poem and X marking the spot. Not great for my preferred location but it gives me a few things to think about, for example, if it's not the prime meridian, i.e a literal meeting of East and West, could it be something else representing the East and West (or even North, South, East and West) and the intersection between them contains the answer? Thanks for sharing xodiak!
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Post by sarah on Jul 8, 2020 12:08:43 GMT -5
Very nice. I never found that anagram "Major Intersection", it really fits to the storyline. Good Job.
It's the same with all of the clues. You never know if you can use this puzzle piece or the top or the backside of it. 48 pages offer a lot of room for complexity.
I also believe the code at the end is an anagram. So we're looking for 10 letters maybe.
As we all know each picture tells a lie. If we tell the truth instead it will reveal a sense. Because I'm sharing my real deep insights it would be great if anyone can bounce back some ideas.
I think "the truth" will fit to your anagram findings. The key to finding the truth is that the word must be included in the poem which belongs to the picture.
1. Lie: There are no 4 parallel worlds -> We have exactly ONE world
2. Lie: No Thor Hammer -> It was a GEOLOGICAL (EARTH) Hammer
3. Lie: The Cats in the Box are attached to the bottom of the box, although they should hover/float -> ZERO Gravity
4. Lie: The Nile is at the south of picture. -> The Nile is in the EAST of the pyramids
5. Lie: The Fujima is in Japan not in Greece. -> Instead the OLYMP is in Greece.
6. Lie: Stalin and Lenin do not fit in the time of the Basil's Cathedral -> Nicholas II would fit
7. Lie: Romans did not just build up tents in Britain -> They built up CITYs.
8. Lie: There were no female monks in that cloth -> Should be a MAN
9. Lie: Big rats -> Should be LITTLE // Possible other lie: The piper of Hamelin lied and caught the children --> Should have caught RATS
10. Lie: The flags of the Santa Maria and the Pinta were not looking like this --> They were showing the SPANISH Royalty flag
11. Lie: Here's the trick if we change the relation and fix the ball: One does look into the future when looking into a crystal ball. The old man should be a BOY looking into future.
So in total we can spell out:
ON EARTH ZERO EAST - OLYMPIC II CITY - MAN LITTLE SPANISH BOY
In other words: MEREDIAN, LONDON, NINO
At that time in 2004 we had 2 Olympic Games in London. So "Meridian and London" would totally fit.
"NINO" did come across my way several times:
-major secret INONti
- in the grid ridddle
- A-BOMB was called "Little boy"
is that a step forward?
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