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Post by goavibe on Apr 26, 2020 3:23:12 GMT -5
@ Xodiak: Thank you very much for confirming that. Going through that forum is a bit of a nightmare. Neil: Honestly, I've been hesitant to go down the shadow casting road. Would you create a treasure hunt inspired by another hunt and use the same technique for solving it? Also, he said he designed it as an arm chair treasure hunt. Google Earth for sure was out in 2001, but I haven't been able to find one shadow calculator that goes back to 2004.
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Post by Neil on Apr 26, 2020 16:05:23 GMT -5
I agree with you regarding it not being too similar to Masquerade, so probably not involving shadows but, many of the clues do seem to suggest otherwise - especially the "how do you pinpoint a moving target" one.
My understanding is that it was originally intended that the token be found and retrieved (so not an 'armchair' hunt), and that the concession to allow written submissions came Some time later. I could be remembering that wrong of course!
Edit: you wouldn't need a shadow calculator because Pete would accept a submission along the lines of, eg: "dig where the shadow of the monument points at noon on good friday"
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Post by goavibe on Apr 26, 2020 16:18:19 GMT -5
On page 3 of this thread Sarah asked him if it was intended to be an ATH in 2004 and he said yes. I had never considered that he would accept the solution in the format you suggested. That seems crazy that you might figure out the method but not know the spot.
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Post by Neil on Apr 27, 2020 6:03:32 GMT -5
I suspect he may not have grasped the "armchair" part of that question. That said, his answer is [deliberately] ambiguous anyway... she asks "was it this, or that?" And he replies just 'yes'...!
He has said that, although he will accept almost any form of solution, he prefers solutions to be descriptions rather than co-ordinates... as it saves him from having to look them up.
I think some things can be inferred from that - maybe even that the location 'moves' a lot more than we might expect... otherwise he could have easily made a list of all of the correct forms of co-ordinates to compare submissions too?
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Post by Marc on Apr 30, 2020 4:09:28 GMT -5
Hi Pete, Over the years I have found many exciting discoveries within the puzzle and most of them have turned out to be just coincidences. In the last few months I have found what appears to be a very significant message, it appears to say... "THE END WRAPPED CD" After many failed attempts at trying to resolve a location using this knowledge, I'm beginning to think it's selective thinking. So my question is...is this another coincidence? Hopefully, your answer will help me to move on. Many thanks All the best Marc
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Post by findingthetruth on Apr 30, 2020 13:22:42 GMT -5
I know this question has probably been asked many times before but I cannot find the question.
I do have the full book (PDF version) and have read it but, I'm wondering if this hunt can be solved with the pictures alone, without the story?
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Post by Marc on Apr 30, 2020 15:26:17 GMT -5
Hi findingthetruth, Pete and some of the clues he has given emphasize an "Holistic approach" to the solution, so I believe the pictures, story, poems and border clues must all be used together to find the solution. I hope that helps Marc
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Post by Neil on May 1, 2020 4:14:54 GMT -5
Following on from what Marc said, Pete has published the images and poems online - for all to see. The only part which remains available to just those who purchase the book is the story... could that be because that is where the important stuff is hidden?
To add to that, two of the three parts of the final clue were an acrostic whose initials spelled "major secret". If that is hinting to a method then text, rather than images, would be needed, and we have been told the poems were added as an afterthought.
In terms of how the pictures might be important, compare how the Oracle picture seems to portray the Reservoir Conduit in Greenwich park... i haven't found any other such resemblances In the remaining pictures but it does open up the possibility that as well as looking for tiny details we might need to consider the overall 'shape' in a picture.
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Post by tess on May 7, 2020 6:25:41 GMT -5
Pete, by any chance would an unlucky Maria dancing be mocked for taking time? I'm so sorry, personally I love a cryptic crossword, so I'm having a bit of fun with this, feel free not to answer although of course it would be great if you did!
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Post by petewilder on May 8, 2020 6:13:25 GMT -5
Pete, by any chance would an unlucky Maria dancing be mocked for taking time? I'm so sorry, personally I love a cryptic crossword, so I'm having a bit of fun with this, feel free not to answer although of course it would be great if you did! Definitely not, don't know what you mean though
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Post by tess on May 8, 2020 8:22:25 GMT -5
Pete, by any chance would an unlucky Maria dancing be mocked for taking time? I'm so sorry, personally I love a cryptic crossword, so I'm having a bit of fun with this, feel free not to answer although of course it would be great if you did! Definitely not, don't know what you mean though Completely fair enough - lockdown has made me a bit daft 
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Post by tess on May 12, 2020 6:53:20 GMT -5
Given that I don't yet know if my latest solution is correct (I love it and fits an awful lot of things but I've been wrong a lot and I'm sure I'll be wrong again), I'm going to see if I can discount a few things. If I need X, pinpointing, and a passport, am I looking for an ID (or D specifically given that it could be I, D)? And is the car in the Pyramids picture a rover?
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Post by Seeker on Jun 11, 2020 13:52:04 GMT -5
Hi Pete,
I have a question about submissions. You've stated that the submission needs to be within one square meter. Is there something in the book or images which will narrow down the location to within an exact square meter? In other words, can someone from across the pond realistically have a chance at identifying the exact location? You've stated that people need to look at this holistically, which makes me think that the location is a conceptual area that would need to be physically searched. Also, is the location viewable on Google Maps street view? Thanks again Pete!
Scott
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Post by tess on Jun 18, 2020 6:20:39 GMT -5
Given that we're looking for something 'in plain sight' that 'serves you right' and makes Scottish dancers happy with a connection to ships, are we looking for an aye?
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Post by tess on Jul 23, 2020 4:42:49 GMT -5
I assumed the references were about mapping/navigation but it's just 'dawned' on me, this wouldn't by any chance be 'more' about what Descartes said than what he did, would it? Or rather the mapping elements are part of it but it's just as much about what he said.
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