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Post by Jenny on Jun 25, 2018 7:37:53 GMT -5
Page 11
Border Phrases:
A Measure of Gold Hidden Away A Gift for the Wind A Keepsake
A collage of items. Many feel this is a 'Key' page
Red Letter Word: KEY
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ana
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Post by ana on Jul 27, 2018 13:41:56 GMT -5
I stare at this page way too much. LOL so I have lots of questions and ideas but nothing clear to me. There are 2 figures that I can't decipher on this page:
1- the white symbol that looks like an arrow near the top of the page within the left hemisphere of the earth? I thought maybe it was a symbol for wind direction etc. but can't figure it out. it may not be a critical clue - it just bugs me that I can't decipher it. Anyone know what it's about?
2- the map of MDI showing the words "AL PAR" on the top right has a green line with red dashes in it. Anyone know what that line could indicate?
The piano keys:
I wondered if the piano keyboard with the extra keys are a red herring or significant. not sure how you could use the extra keys.... Perhaps the extra keys are E, BCDE..if you take out the first bluish one, and then the yellow/red/taupe/yellow ones (which makes me wonder if I should ask my son who's RG colour blind if he could see all these different shades - perhaps you can't solve this puzzle if you are colour blind....distracted thoughts - sorry back to the puzzle!)......or is the keyboard halfway a reflection of itself ...in which case the only 'wrong' keys are the first bluish one as it should have a black key cutting into it....and the yellow key - which could be E and F....or.... is the bluish key actually linked to the weird same coloured large bluish rectangle by the Leo symbol further down the page on the right and means something completely different. ...the other odd large rectangle associated with the sagittarius symbol I cannot clearly link to any piano keys that are wrong/misplaced...but it does match the colour of the G key on the top keyboard and of the E and D keys on the lower keyboard. Any ideas people?
Happy hunting!
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Post by holliwood27 on Jul 28, 2018 18:20:31 GMT -5
think of the earth and sky and how many references there are to REFLECTION...its a tree, partly in the water..which is why its masked and its a double tree.
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Post by Jenny on Jul 29, 2018 17:03:07 GMT -5
think of the earth and sky and how many references there are to REFLECTION...its a tree, partly in the water..which is why its masked and its a double tree. I agree there are numerous hints towards 'Reflection'.... both in mirroring and in opposites....
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 30, 2018 9:08:47 GMT -5
Also, people mention that there is a key on each keyboard that shouldn't be there (an extra key), but that's only partially true. On the top keyboard, there are really 7 keys that shouldn't be there. Look at the black keys. On a normal keyboard, the black keys are 3 2 3 2 3 etc. But that keyboard has 3 2 2 3 (there's an extra 2 black keys). So that entire section with the extra 2 black keys is extra.
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Post by TxTH on Jul 30, 2018 10:30:14 GMT -5
@susb823 That is correct. Also, if you take that "extra" key and draw a line down the middle of it, the left half of the keyboard is a mirror image of the right half so from that point of view there are no extra keys. Splitting the key in half would in theory cut out the part of the black key (F#/Bb)) that would have been visible if you looked at the whole key.
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Post by TxTH on Jul 30, 2018 13:47:29 GMT -5
Then your theory must also be doubtful since you depended on knowing what a real keyboard looks like to come up with your hypothesis. I'm not declaring what is right or wrong but that there is simply more than one way to look at it. I hope you are 100% correct and you can put Fandango to rest by finding the key! I am still a long way from any solution.
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 30, 2018 15:14:09 GMT -5
I tend to agree about the extra keys not being the thing to notice. But.. on the other hand. He said everything you need is in the book, but he also said it helps to have a knowledge of MDI's history and unique geography, which seems to contradict that.
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 30, 2018 15:45:22 GMT -5
That's interesting. That would imply that it is in Acadia after all since most of those landmarks are in the park. Or...maybe those things lead you through Acadia and where you end up at the end is not in the park.
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Post by TxTH on Jul 30, 2018 16:30:03 GMT -5
TxTH sorry i didn't mean to offend. I was just simply stating that Stockwell was pretty adamant on multiple occasions that all everything you need is in the book. I only know a piano because i am a musician myself, but I try into to let that suck me into that train of thought. There is alot going on in this illustration> Its probably the one Ive spent the most time on yet can't decide on a definitive strategy. The only thing to go off of is the fact he eludes to things that are opposite in the text page prior. Of course you can get sucked into zodiac opposites too, but then again, you would have needed to have prior knowledge. No offense taken. I understand what you are saying about everything you need is in the book. And I also agree that this page is key to the final solution. There is just so much here in this one image to comprehend and figure out what he is trying to get us to see.
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Post by stiparest on Aug 24, 2018 8:30:30 GMT -5
I wondered if the piano keyboard with the extra keys are a red herring or significant. not sure how you could use the extra keys.... ana - I'm not convinced the piano keys have anything to do with music - that would require too much research for anyone who doesn't read music. As a music-illiterate, what I noticed about the piano keys is that each one has an 'extra' key in the center location. The one along the top has a yellow center key and the one along the right has a red center key. This would fit with the red/yellow theme, but I'm not sure where to go with this observation.
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Post by Jenny on Aug 24, 2018 8:42:58 GMT -5
I wondered if the piano keyboard with the extra keys are a red herring or significant. not sure how you could use the extra keys.... ana - I'm not convinced the piano keys have anything to do with music - that would require too much research for anyone who doesn't read music. As a music-illiterate, what I noticed about the piano keys is that each one has an 'extra' key in the center location. The one along the top has a yellow center key and the one along the right has a red center key. This would fit with the red/yellow theme, but I'm not sure where to go with this observation. I say this more to make you laugh...it was what came to my mind while working and thinking about the posts being made this morning... which the posts were talking about the Star Points and Colors-- and how red/yellow is a theme. And we know those colors make Orange. And then the Orange Star Points give 'Hidden'. Maybe this 'KEY' we are looking for is a Hidden Orange. I geocache a lot and the containers they come up with are so unique. I can see hiding an Orange with secret compartment...lol... Darn it....now I'll be looking for oranges on the island....lol.. I won't be able to help myself.
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Post by stiparest on Aug 24, 2018 10:35:24 GMT -5
stipareth- but you know its an extra key by knowing what a real piano looks like, which is supposed to be not required I used the word 'extra' because other people use it. To me, they are simply each the center key on a row of keys, and neither of them touches a black key, when all the other colored keys do, so my observation is not based on knowing what a keyboard looks like :-)
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Post by astree on Sept 3, 2018 7:02:34 GMT -5
I stare at this page way too much. LOL so I have lots of questions and ideas but nothing clear to me. There are 2 figures that I can't decipher on this page: 1- the white symbol that looks like an arrow near the top of the page within the left hemisphere of the earth? I thought maybe it was a symbol for wind direction etc. but can't figure it out. it may not be a critical clue - it just bugs me that I can't decipher it. Anyone know what it's about? 2- the map of MDI showing the words "AL PAR" on the top right has a green line with red dashes in it. Anyone know what that line could indicate? The piano keys: I wondered if the piano keyboard with the extra keys are a red herring or significant. not sure how you could use the extra keys.... Perhaps the extra keys are E, BCDE..if you take out the first bluish one, and then the yellow/red/taupe/yellow ones (which makes me wonder if I should ask my son who's RG colour blind if he could see all these different shades - perhaps you can't solve this puzzle if you are colour blind....distracted thoughts - sorry back to the puzzle!)......or is the keyboard halfway a reflection of itself ...in which case the only 'wrong' keys are the first bluish one as it should have a black key cutting into it....and the yellow key - which could be E and F....or.... is the bluish key actually linked to the weird same coloured large bluish rectangle by the Leo symbol further down the page on the right and means something completely different. ...the other odd large rectangle associated with the sagittarius symbol I cannot clearly link to any piano keys that are wrong/misplaced...but it does match the colour of the G key on the top keyboard and of the E and D keys on the lower keyboard. Any ideas people? Happy hunting! Something that may help you get started.. try composing “a measure (music term, think “key” too) of gold”... use the gold keys, start with the ones in the upper left. After that, you should be able to figure out what to do next. 3,5,7,9 / 11,12 AMEASUREOFGOLD
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Post by stiparest on Sept 5, 2018 16:59:54 GMT -5
Something that may help you get started.. try composing “a measure (music term, think “key” too) of gold”... use the gold keys, start with the ones in the upper left. After that, you should be able to figure out what to do next. 3,5,7,9 / 11,12 AMEASUREOFGOLD astree - no offense, but I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know what a measure means in music without looking it up. I found this and it still means very little to me:
A measure is the section of a musical staff that comes between two barlines. Each measure satisfies the specified time signature of the staff. For example, a song written in 4/4 time will hold four quarter note beats per measure. A song written in 3/4 time will hold three quarter note beats in each measure.
I don't know what a musical staff is, or a barline, or a time signature, or 4/4 time, or a quarter note beat. This type of knowledge is very specific and not understood by most people, so it seems unlikely they would use it in a book designed for the general public.
The 'gold' keys you have identified are all different shades - yellow, taupe (as noted by ana) and #5 even looks greenish. If they wanted us to use them as the same color, why didn't they paint them one color?
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