
Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Sept 5, 2019 9:32:17 GMT 5
Exactly, so focus on the consistencies: The reflected eyes. Only two pages with those. On one page you have "count to three, a subtraction problem, and a sticker saying it climbed Cadillac Mountain. By now you should Cadillac's elevation. So if you now have two pages with 4 digit numbers and a clue to subtract, maybe the other page with reflected eyes will give you a result.



Post by stiparest on Sept 5, 2019 15:10:42 GMT 5
Exactly, so focus on the consistencies: The reflected eyes. Only two pages with those. On one page you have "count to three, a subtraction problem, and a sticker saying it climbed Cadillac Mountain. By now you should Cadillac's elevation. So if you now have two pages with 4 digit numbers and a clue to subtract, maybe the other page with reflected eyes will give you a result. What other page has reflected eyes? Why hint at it and not just tell us?



Post by thisjustin on Sept 5, 2019 15:25:38 GMT 5
Exactly, so focus on the consistencies: The reflected eyes. Only two pages with those. On one page you have "count to three, a subtraction problem, and a sticker saying it climbed Cadillac Mountain. By now you should Cadillac's elevation. So if you now have two pages with 4 digit numbers and a clue to subtract, maybe the other page with reflected eyes will give you a result. What other page has reflected eyes? Why hint at it and not just tell us? It is in my prior post. The "All Eyes in the Fire" pages.



Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Sept 5, 2019 15:35:49 GMT 5
What other page has reflected eyes? Why hint at it and not just tell us? It is in my prior post. The "All Eyes in the Fire" pages. No. Ok, we’re really doing this😉. The other page with reflected eyes is Neptune’s page. Him and his middle dolphin have reflected eyes, meaning the pupils are reversed. But as I stated above, you have clues to subtraction and to Cadillac mountain (1530). When you return to Neptune’s page, you subtract Cadillacs elevation from the 1653 chest. 16531530=123. Aka count to three now smile. This is interesting because another version of Masquerade used a counting technique to break the riddle. What’s even more interesting is when you once again take 1530, but this time multiply it by 1927614 on the camera page. The result is a sequential number 2949249420. Looks odd at first glance, but now break it up into 3 groups of 3. 294 924 942. See how the 2 shifts to the right in each sequence yet the other two numbers remain the same? And also notice the number that moves is a 2. The number on the dolphin,s head is also a 2. So we may have a 3 count sequence we need to follow. Fandango after all is a waltz based dance, which is basically 123 123 123 123... What further reinforces this is Stockwell on his blog talk radio “it’s a dance. Go out have fun, dance, but there are certain moves you are going to have to make” Of all the things over the last decade, this one thing, to me, carries a load of merit



Post by goldenchild on Sept 6, 2019 11:35:46 GMT 5
Exactly, so focus on the consistencies: The reflected eyes. Only two pages with those. On one page you have "count to three, a subtraction problem, and a sticker saying it climbed Cadillac Mountain. By now you should Cadillac's elevation. So if you now have two pages with 4 digit numbers and a clue to subtract, maybe the other page with reflected eyes will give you a result. have you had any luck linking the decoding the other matching sets of eyes? It seems like the two pages with normal blue eyes (not blue whites) are Harley Quinn and the old lady. It seems like both kind of hint towards the others page. Her page has the obvious rose hints with the rose, her rose tea that she seems to be pointing at also. Harley’s border phrase spells rose with the outside corner letters going counter clockwise maybe hinting towards her page. Also if you take the “step inside” border phrase and take the “inside” letters it spells PI. Which on the old ladies page it is “tea for two” “and pie”....possibly referring back to Harley’s page? Seems like the only two blue eyes pictures are hinting to those two pages being linked. Possibly it’s the same with all the different types of eyes. I would think that the normal blue and normal red eyes would be the ones to focus on due to those two being the only ones depicted on the key page. But then again it could just be suggesting that part of the riddle can be decoded by paying attention to all similar eye patterns and not just those two.



Post by thisjustin on Sept 6, 2019 15:10:35 GMT 5
"Okay, we're really doing this." Love it. Made me laugh. And I do appreciate you really doing this! It is certainly interesting.
I still find myself with that frustrated thought of, if this is an important element, why did Stockwell make it so ambiguous? For instance, what about the Old Fop? You could argue he has "reflected" eyes. Or what about Cadillac Mack? Are his eyes "reflected"? If all you need to know is that there is a three step sequence involved then you can get there simply from the name of the book. Or from the "Count to Three" border phrase. Why would there be any need to go through the machinations of tying together the Cadillac Mt. height, the number on Neptune's chest, the arrow and bumper sticker on the Camera page and make the reflected eye association?
But if we are talking a 2step sequence or a 2+3 step sequence (count two three not 1,2,3). Well, then it is worth the effort. Or could it be count 2+3 = 5? After all, the license plate on the camera page tells you to subtract, which you did (16531530). The chest on Neptune's page tells you to multiply, which you did (1530*1927614). But the chest also tells you to add. So take your 3 sets of numbers and your 2 that moves through the sequence and add them (count two three = 2+3 = 5).
Now start going around and looking for all the 5's throughout the book. The first illustration is on page 5. The last illustration is on page 55. Each of the corner stars has 5 points. There is a 5 on the chimney on the Lobsterman page. There are also 5 fish in the bucket on that page. There are 5 steps leading to the fireplace on the the Fire page  each of which is made up of 5 stones. There are also 5 different animals on that page The minute hands on the clocks on the Key page and Old Lady page both point to 5 minutes after the hour. On the Camera page there are 5 brake lights across the top of the camper van. Below that is a Windsong sticker. Windsong is an actual song on a CD called "Along the Shore of Acadia." Want to guess which track it is? 5. Chief Abnaki is sending up 5 smoke signals. There are 5 eagles in the clouds on page 51.
I could go on, but all of this is to say  is 5 important? Who knows. Maybe. Maybe not.
If I was Pel Stockwell one of the most fun aspects of Fandango would be seeing all of the creative things people came up with that were never intended. Here's another one: take the sequence described above, 294 924 942, and add them together = 2,160. There are three groups of numbers, so divide by 3 = 720. The 2 is the number that moves through the sequence so divide again by 2 = 360 = "Circle the Globe" says Harley!


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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 16:47:51 GMT 5
"Okay, we're really doing this." Love it. Made me laugh. And I do appreciate you really doing this! It is certainly interesting. I still find myself with that frustrated thought of, if this is an important element, why did Stockwell make it so ambiguous? For instance, what about the Old Fop? You could argue he has "reflected" eyes. Or what about Cadillac Mack? Are his eyes "reflected"? If all you need to know is that there is a three step sequence involved then you can get there simply from the name of the book. Or from the "Count to Three" border phrase. Why would there be any need to go through the machinations of tying together the Cadillac Mt. height, the number on Neptune's chest, the arrow and bumper sticker on the Camera page and make the reflected eye association? But if we are talking a 2step sequence or a 2+3 step sequence (count two three not 1,2,3). Well, then it is worth the effort. Or could it be count 2+3 = 5? After all, the license plate on the camera page tells you to subtract, which you did (16531530). The chest on Neptune's page tells you to multiply, which you did (1530*1927614). But the chest also tells you to add. So take your 3 sets of numbers and your 2 that moves through the sequence and add them (count two three = 2+3 = 5). Now start going around and looking for all the 5's throughout the book. The first illustration is on page 5. The last illustration is on page 55. Each of the corner stars has 5 points. There is a 5 on the chimney on the Lobsterman page. There are also 5 fish in the bucket on that page. There are 5 steps leading to the fireplace on the the Fire page  each of which is made up of 5 stones. There are also 5 different animals on that page The minute hands on the clocks on the Key page and Old Lady page both point to 5 minutes after the hour. On the Camera page there are 5 brake lights across the top of the camper van. Below that is a Windsong sticker. Windsong is an actual song on a CD called "Along the Shore of Acadia." Want to guess which track it is? 5. Chief Abnaki is sending up 5 smoke signals. There are 5 eagles in the clouds on page 51. I could go on, but all of this is to say  is 5 important? Who knows. Maybe. Maybe not. If I was Pel Stockwell one of the most fun aspects of Fandango would be seeing all of the creative things people came up with that were never intended. Here's another one: take the sequence described above, 294 924 942, and add them together = 2,160. There are three groups of numbers, so divide by 3 = 720. The 2 is the number that moves through the sequence so divide again by 2 = 360 = "Circle the Globe" says Harley! I like this  this got me thinking about 1,2,3,5, and the 8 that appears everywhere. I have for a long time thought 8 was important  one reason is the double "Forever Held". I always thought of the Forever Held = infinity which can be represented by what looks like a sideways 8. I find it interesting that these numbers almost have a Fibonacciesque element to them (1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5 =8)... anyway if you just focus on these numbers in the alphabet  you get A, B, C, E, H or BEACH. I'm sure you can also derive BACHE, or B EACH, but BEACH seems like the most likely. I looked it up  there are 3 sand beaches on the island. One of them happens to be Echo Lake Beach. In another thread (the one where everyone is tracing Fandango's path), someone said they believe Fandango's location when he encounters the Fairies to be Jordan Pond; however, I always thought this location was Echo Lake  and subsequently, the Western and Eastern shores as the shores of Somes Sound and not the island. Looking at images of Echo Lake, this seems like a good possibility. Echo Lake is also along the latitude that is referenced almost everywhere in these threads. So I never ruled it out as a location. Food for thought, I suppose... but maybe this something?



Post by thisjustin on Sept 11, 2019 15:18:39 GMT 5
I like this  this got me thinking about 1,2,3,5, and the 8 that appears everywhere. I have for a long time thought 8 was important  one reason is the double "Forever Held". I always thought of the Forever Half to = infinity which can be represented by what looks like a sideways 8. I find it interesting that these numbers almost have a Fibonacciesque element to them (1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5 =8)... anyway if you just focus on these numbers in the alphabet  you get A, B, C, E, H or BEACH. I'm sure you can also derive BACHE, or B EACH, but BEACH seems like the most likely. I looked it up  there are 3 sand beaches on the island. One of them happens to be Echo Lake Beach. In keeping with the theme that one can find a confirmation for any theory, try this: Go to the Lobsterman page (p. 23) 1) Start w/ the red square in the South East corner 2) The bottom buoy contains the #1 within a red stripe  this suggests to start at the bottom with a red rectangle 3) The stem of the buoy tilts southeast suggesting to start at the bottom to the southeast (right) side. 4) The orange/white buoy contains the number 10 (and/or 16) in the colored stripe. Start counting with 1 being the red rectangle in the southeast corner and count to 10 counterclockwise. You reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “A” from the border 6) Start counting at 1/red again and count to 16 counterclockwise. You again reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “S” from the border 7) The green/white buoy contains the number 36 in the colored stripe. Start counting at 1/red rectangle and count to 36 moving counterclockwise. You reach a green rectangle that picks the letters “DN” from the border 8) Put the letters together moving clockwise around the border beginning with the “S” and it spells SAND There you go! A confirmer for your BEACH. And of course, don't forget, Beech Cliff trail (and Beech Mountain) can be accessed via Echo Lake. Happy hunting!



Post by goldenchild on Sept 11, 2019 18:13:52 GMT 5
I like this  this got me thinking about 1,2,3,5, and the 8 that appears everywhere. I have for a long time thought 8 was important  one reason is the double "Forever Held". I always thought of the Forever Half to = infinity which can be represented by what looks like a sideways 8. I find it interesting that these numbers almost have a Fibonacciesque element to them (1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5 =8)... anyway if you just focus on these numbers in the alphabet  you get A, B, C, E, H or BEACH. I'm sure you can also derive BACHE, or B EACH, but BEACH seems like the most likely. I looked it up  there are 3 sand beaches on the island. One of them happens to be Echo Lake Beach. In keeping with the theme that one can find a confirmation for any theory, try this: Go to the Lobsterman page (p. 23) 1) Start w/ the red square in the South East corner 2) The bottom buoy contains the #1 within a red stripe  this suggests to start at the bottom with a red rectangle 3) The stem of the buoy tilts southeast suggesting to start at the bottom to the southeast (right) side. 4) The orange/white buoy contains the number 10 (and/or 16) in the colored stripe. Start counting with 1 being the red rectangle in the southeast corner and count to 10 counterclockwise. You reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “A” from the border 6) Start counting at 1/red again and count to 16 counterclockwise. You again reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “S” from the border 7) The green/white buoy contains the number 36 in the colored stripe. Start counting at 1/red rectangle and count to 36 moving counterclockwise. You reach a green rectangle that picks the letters “DN” from the border 8) Put the letters together moving clockwise around the border beginning with the “S” and it spells SAND There you go! A confirmer for your BEACH. And of course, don't forget, Beech Cliff trail (and Beech Mountain) can be accessed via Echo Lake. Happy hunting! nice noticing that the letters in white work also. I’ve been playing with the 1,10,36 matching red orange green in order going counterclockwise. Or up like the lobsterman is suggesting. I’ve been trying it as a skip pattern on all the pages and all kinds of other things but orange counting as two numbers makes good sense. And sand is a pretty solid output in my opinion. Nice find!



Post by astree on Sept 12, 2019 6:04:16 GMT 5
. Hmmmm. A while ago, I had looked at the cover and pondered on the use of FANDANGO. One way to look at the word is
F (and) A (‘n) GO
FA GO ( fa is the 4th note in the do re mi fa...)
More so, if you go to translate.google.com and type in FAGO and translate from Latin, you get BEECH. Interesting, but seems too obscure.
Returning to p. 30, looking at white books, and stringing them together, im interested in what others get. What i got starts with
DOWN UNDER THE .....



Post by goldenchild on Sept 12, 2019 8:05:29 GMT 5
I like this  this got me thinking about 1,2,3,5, and the 8 that appears everywhere. I have for a long time thought 8 was important  one reason is the double "Forever Held". I always thought of the Forever Half to = infinity which can be represented by what looks like a sideways 8. I find it interesting that these numbers almost have a Fibonacciesque element to them (1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5 =8)... anyway if you just focus on these numbers in the alphabet  you get A, B, C, E, H or BEACH. I'm sure you can also derive BACHE, or B EACH, but BEACH seems like the most likely. I looked it up  there are 3 sand beaches on the island. One of them happens to be Echo Lake Beach. In keeping with the theme that one can find a confirmation for any theory, try this: Go to the Lobsterman page (p. 23) 1) Start w/ the red square in the South East corner 2) The bottom buoy contains the #1 within a red stripe  this suggests to start at the bottom with a red rectangle 3) The stem of the buoy tilts southeast suggesting to start at the bottom to the southeast (right) side. 4) The orange/white buoy contains the number 10 (and/or 16) in the colored stripe. Start counting with 1 being the red rectangle in the southeast corner and count to 10 counterclockwise. You reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “A” from the border 6) Start counting at 1/red again and count to 16 counterclockwise. You again reach an orange rectangle which picks the letter “S” from the border 7) The green/white buoy contains the number 36 in the colored stripe. Start counting at 1/red rectangle and count to 36 moving counterclockwise. You reach a green rectangle that picks the letters “DN” from the border 8) Put the letters together moving clockwise around the border beginning with the “S” and it spells SAND There you go! A confirmer for your BEACH. And of course, don't forget, Beech Cliff trail (and Beech Mountain) can be accessed via Echo Lake. Happy hunting! what about the lower left Buoy? The 671..or 1L9. That one wasn’t a part of your solve. It would make since its 1L9 if your solve for the orange buoy is correct since that one had a letter to number conversion also.



Post by thisjustin on Sept 12, 2019 13:08:12 GMT 5
what about the lower left Buoy? The 671..or 1L9. That one wasn’t a part of your solve. It would make since its 1L9 if your solve for the orange buoy is correct since that one had a letter to number conversion also. I did use that buoy in step 2. The buoy I didn't use was the upper left buoy that is red stripe w/ 01 in the stripe. So that serves the same purpose as the lower left buoy i.e. red and 1. But, let's get creative and use that upper left buoy ... 1) Start with the red rectangle in the South West corner 2) The upper left buoy is cut in half by the left border suggesting we start on the left (west) side and the tail points down (south), and the color is red indicating we start at the South West red rectangle 3) The buoy contains two numbers in the red stripe, 0 and 1, so let's use both and begin our count using the red rectangle as both zero and one. 4) Since the 1 on the buoy is the closest number to the green buoy let's start our green count with 1 5) Since there are two numbers on this red buoy (0 and 1), let's count twice, first clockwise and then counterclockwise 6) Since the numbers are written the reverse of the buoy we used in our SAND solve (i.e. vertical in the stripe rather than horizontal) and since 01 on the red buoy is the reverse of the 10 on the orange buoy, let's also reverse the colors we look for in our count (i.e. look for orange rectangles at the green/36 count and green rectangles at the 10/orange count) 7) Starting at 1 at the south west red rectangle and counting counterclockwise 10 gets you to a green rectangle that picks the letter "T" from the border. Counting clockwise gets you to a green rectangle that pulls the letters "EA" from the border. 8) Since we use the 1 from the red buoy to count our 10's, let's use the 0 to count our 36's 9) Starting at 0 at the south west red rectangle and counting counterclockwise 36 gets you to an orange rectangle that picks the letter "W" from the border. Counting clockwise gets you to an orange rectangle that pulls the letter "S" from the border. 10) Put the letters together and it spells SWEAT. SAND and SWEAT certainly go together at the BEACH don't you think?



Post by astree on Dec 29, 2019 11:04:09 GMT 5
. WINE
TWINE ( I WENT , et c)
Whats harley quinn staring at? harleY quinN



Post by astree on Dec 29, 2019 11:07:46 GMT 5
. bookshelf, top groupings ( this is one of several uses )
1 / 1,3,5
C / A C E ( case, sea ace, see ace )
see AC east
C  HAS  E
one of the star codes seems to indicate OR CEH ... OCHRE ?

