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Post by sarah on Jul 7, 2020 17:19:15 GMT -5
Hi Marc, in the old forum you said once that the final six could also be decoded as "I'M A CAT". I was wondering what thought led you to this idea. Maybe you could share this? Just asking in case you don't mind  That code is driving me crazy and I was googling around. Your finding fits to my latest location "the catford cat". And if "I'M A CAT" is the final six, what could be the four before?
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Post by Marc on Jul 8, 2020 3:54:31 GMT -5
Hi Sarah, I'm afraid I don't exactly remember how I got that code. I'm sure it's buried in my notes somewhere but it would take me days to find it! I DO, however, remember doing some research about the Catford Cat, and I may have posted a few solutions around that area. If I did "decode" anything it would have been based on numbers decoding to letters and it would have been straight forward as my skills with ciphers is very limited. I either used a simple substitution code or more likely I used the Element code, for example 53, 95, 6, 85 would decode using atomic symbols to "I AM CAT". The Element code in the only code that is definitely in the book and is the only code I'm interested in now a days. I hope that helps. All the best Marc
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Post by sarah on Jul 8, 2020 12:19:31 GMT -5
Hi Marc, yes, that definitely helps  Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm searching for the place where you got those numbers from, now. All the best, too. Sarah
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Post by tess on Jul 12, 2020 14:48:04 GMT -5
OK, so I have the beginning for a code but no idea what to do with it, so posting it here in case a. someone's already done something along similar lines and discounted it and b. if anyone can see what I'm missing. Someone may have already done this ages ago but I don't read all the forums so no idea.
So in the Einstein picture, 'you will see' tells me that 'you' is important. 'U' is the flag on the Columbus picture so you/u is certainly relevant. Now there are a lot of U's in the borders but not a lot of 'you'. However, I think it's more specific than that.
The Einstein picture also tells me to look into the crystal ball. What I see in the crystal ball is Young Einstein or YE. Now Ye is the old fashioned way of saying 'you'. So there's my you. You're literally told to 'Look ye North and South, High and low, East and West' in one of the supplementary clues, so as far as I'm concerned, this is a pretty good assumption to make.
However, there's no 'Ye' in the book. But if you look along the right edge of the plague picture, you see a sign that suggests another way to look at Ye - assume the Y is a thorn and use 'the' instead (a ring of roses may be implying this). I also like that in the small group of figures in the Roman picture, the figure with the spear pointing down appears to be pointing towards THE in the border (sort of suggests 'the' is the route to the four before with the other spear holder in that group pointing up to the 4 tents).
There are plenty of the's around the borders. 25 I believe which I can look for North, South, East and West. Now I have drawn lines across to the opposite borders but no immediate pattern was clear to me. I also suspect that not every 'the' is relevant because some of them lead nowhere (empty space on the opposite border).
So my question is how do I move forward with my 'the' theory or do I discount it as a bit of 'seeing what I want to see'? Because I look at this whole thing more as a cryptic crossword and have a background in linguistics so may be seeing what I want to see here.
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Post by goavibe on Jul 12, 2020 22:00:56 GMT -5
I feel like the code is the sticking point for me at this point. I thought I had a potential solution for the grid in the pyramid picture, but after finding all of the red herrings I can only surmise that my solution for the grid is wrong. Using the elements, letter replacement, and anagrams, I think that the letters "Search in" are in the grid, with some letters left over. But, I believe I'm missing something with the blank spaces, like four extra letters. We know from the answer Pete gave regarding the Master Riddle, that I and My are referring to the same entity or person. I spun the numbers around in the grid to get the letters I ended up with, which leads me to believe the last section of the Master Riddle is referring to the number grid. It is probably the final key needed.
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Post by tess on Jul 13, 2020 2:38:38 GMT -5
Same for me goavibe. Happy with my general location (although aware it's not in London like most others tend to be which sometimes gives me pause) and convinced I have to navigate around it using a 'code' to give me the four before to pinpoint the correct answer. I've played with the grid in the Pyramids picture in the past but not very seriously because of that 'red herring'. I'll give that another go.
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Post by goavibe on Jul 14, 2020 14:40:29 GMT -5
If you will win the prize, time is of the essence But only if you realise how to find my presence Numbers spinning round, I am the final six But you must find the four before in the order that I fix Waiting to be found, I am your passport to the treasure A secret safe and sound, to discover at your leisure.
Page 47 in PDF: There was no answer, “Strange.” he thought. Then he panicked, he dashed down the stairs fearing the worst. As he got to the bottom, he realised straight away. “Those boys, their mother will kill me.” Then he smiled, the Sun set over the Empire and Dad pressed the recall button as he was thinking, “I knew they would get in and try it out even after I had told them not to go in the lab. They’ve been gone for ten minutes so if I increase the power by five they should be back in two minutes.” Two minutes later the boys were back.
Here are some of the thoughts I've had regarding how this could relate to the grid.
This section of the story could be relating to the Master Riddle. There was no answer, "Strange." Almost like there should be an answer right? Maybe it is in this section. He dashed down the stairs. The grid has what could be a dash in it. He realised straight away. Realised is a key word from the Master Riddle. Time is of the essence and we are given how to recall them using time. It is essentially a division problem. 10/5=2. The dash could indicate division when a number is over and under it. A dash can also mean subtraction. I've tried both and haven't had any revelations yet.
I've tried all kinds of things with the numbers and letters in the grid. Here's one that was interesting:
Sb Ni 102= No 89= Ac 53= I 49= In 9= F
I was able to unscramble Fibonnaci's in
It is spelled wrong, but I remember in his interview where he talked about solving the grid in Masquerade, it was misspelled as well.
The Fibonacci Sequence is visualized through the Golden Ratio, which if you look at it, is numbers spinning round. The number 89, which is in our grid, is part of the sequence. The two numbers that precede it are 34 and 55. There are two empty spaces in the grid boxes next to 89. I've tried quite a few different things using those numbers and haven't arrived anywhere yet. With the theme of lies and truth in this puzzle, Fibonacci starts with the word fib. There are a couple of numbers which work together to add up to another, even though they aren't part of the Fibonacci Sequence. Those are: 49+53=102. All three numbers are in the grid.
Like I said, I've tried quite a few things out. I've mirrored them and flipped them upside down. I've substituted numbers for letters and letters for numbers. If you flip them upside down and then substitute, you can get letters to spell Search. This seemed relevant but I haven't been able to unscramble anything else coherent. I'm obviously missing something. Anyone else go down this same path?
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Post by tess on Jul 15, 2020 3:26:01 GMT -5
Goavibe, I always like a different way to look at those 'lies'. Have you tried REAL in different combinations through the periodic table? I've thought that word to be important for a while. After all, if something is true, it is real.
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