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Riddle #3
Jan 14, 2019 9:22:22 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 14, 2019 9:22:22 GMT -5
Gazers throw their sight, Not up where the Great one sups, Nor to the calling of the dead, But after a century, elsewhere Towards a bright road. There you'll find where children play. And behind the right foot Of the closest bench Lies the tin.
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Riddle #3
Jan 14, 2019 17:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by inatimate1 on Jan 14, 2019 17:21:07 GMT -5
I’m leaning heavily towards some sort of Observatory here, Gazers, up...
I’m guessing there’s one that was moved after a century in one location, it’s not as uncommon an occurance as I thought it may have been, Lisbon have one that was moved about 50 years after construction and there’s a similar story in Belgium. I’m going to do some digging around down this train of thought unless anyone else has a better theory?
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Riddle #3
Jan 14, 2019 20:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 14, 2019 20:04:51 GMT -5
I feel certain that the line about "the Great one sups" is in reference to the Big Dipper.
I'm still working on the rest. This one seems more difficult than the previous two.
Is there a pattern? The others were capital cities.
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Riddle #3
Jan 14, 2019 20:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 14, 2019 20:42:33 GMT -5
More thoughts:
I found this, which I thought was an interesting definition of GAZER:
noun
a steady or intent look.
at gaze, Heraldry . (of a deer or deerlike animal) represented as seen from the side with the head
looking toward the spectator: a stag at gaze.
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Also, the line that I think is about the Big Dipper, I think means DON'T LOOK UP.
And I think the line, "Calling of the dead" refers to graves, and means DON'T LOOK DOWN.
These would go along with the gazer definition of looking straight ahead.
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Post by vittafernandez on Jan 15, 2019 11:50:18 GMT -5
There is a "gazer" stag in Crystal Park in London staring straight. Can tins be in the same location more than once? Crystal Palace was moved from Hyde Park. Have not figured out the bright road, yet. It might be as simple as a well-lit road. There is also a nice playground with benches inside the fencing area. "The closest bench" might mean closest to the entrance to the playground.
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Riddle #3
Jan 15, 2019 13:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 15, 2019 13:23:52 GMT -5
It seems like the final hiding place would be a playground.
The entire riddle seems very vague. There has to be some part of the riddle that connect it to a specific place. I think the word "gazers" is important. The stag could be what we are looking for.
We could ask if any tins are located in the same country/city. I don't know if he will answer that.
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Post by vittafernandez on Jan 15, 2019 13:59:28 GMT -5
That's why I thought it might be a life-sized sculpture of a stag/deer out in a public place. I also thought that maybe "Gazers throw their sight" could be fortune tellers. But that might be too far a stretch. I have a tendency to overthink clues making them more difficult. How did you associate "Where the Great one sups" to the big dipper? Just curious. "Cause the Great one could mean just about anything or anyone.
Also, I thought it interesting that he used the word foot for the bench leg. Could be nothing, though.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 15, 2019 19:19:49 GMT -5
Well, "sups" made me think of eating, or sipping. And "great" made me think of big. And with the word, "gazers", I thought of star gazing. I could be totally wrong. And now that you mention it, I am now thinking of the Great Bear. But who knows?
Some benches have the legs that actually look like an animal's foot.
Maybe the word, "throw", is important.
Anyway, this is a difficult one!
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Post by vittafernandez on Jan 15, 2019 23:04:37 GMT -5
In the definition of Gazers, the word Heraldry appeared. "Where the Great one sups" made me think of the constellations. Leo is really the only one that fits. According to legends, he ate many animals as well as human beings.
Anyway, maybe the gazer is more about the heraldry than a stag/deer. A coat of arms or a flag, perhaps with a lion staring.
"Gazers throw their sight" keeps puzzling me. Not looking up or looking down Maybe a lighthouse? Staring at something that was moved after a century near or on a bright (brightly colored, well-lit or named bright?) road.
Sorry, just thinking out loud!
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Post by inatimate1 on Jan 16, 2019 4:41:00 GMT -5
The comma after "century" makes me now think that something wasn't moved, but the object/place itself is a reference to the word "century" maybe travelling down a road or past a building with a century based reference.
I like the idea of a lighthouse, up might not necessarily mean a constellation based on that, it could be a mountain maybe? calling of the dead could reference a nearby graveyard rather than looking down?
Interestingly I thought of Gilbraltar. There's a lighthouse there, the "Great One" could mean the "Rock" of Gilbraltar (for an obscure reference back to late 90s WWF), there's a lot of batteries around the area of the lighthouse (dead battery?), and there's a sports ground which is used for Cricket which could be a reference for the term "after a Century" (scoring 100 runs), but that's clutching at straws I think.
I am definitely leaning towards the century being part of the place name though rather than meaning a period of time
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Post by inatimate1 on Jan 16, 2019 5:33:43 GMT -5
Further to the above, I have also taken "up where the Great one sups" to mean a person attributed with the term "Great"...
Alexander the Great Catherine the Great Wilhelm I Louis XIV Pope John Paul II Alfred Constantine Pompey Antiochus
And I can't find any physical feature where any of them are seen to be drinking. I thought that would be an idea and then to work backwards from there, ie. find a statue or painting of a "Great" drinking and then locate a nearby Observatory or Lighthouse, but that's not thrown up any viable options so far.
On we go...
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Riddle #3
Jan 16, 2019 8:13:26 GMT -5
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jan 16, 2019 8:13:26 GMT -5
Sups doesn't necessarily have to mean drinking...it could come from "supper", so eating. A place could be a banquet hall, or similar.
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Post by vittafernandez on Jan 16, 2019 11:09:54 GMT -5
Did some searching for lighthouses in Capital cities and there is one in Rome, Italy that overlooks the city, including the Vatican. Bit of a stretch, but the Pope eats at the Vatican. One of the papal flags has a large bear on its emblem. Since you can see a panoramic view of the city you might be able to see the playground. There is a kids' playground called Parco Adriano with benches and a statue of Hadrian (Hadrian's Wall). There are park benches. Still trying to get a better view. I still think that the bright road is a well-lit road.
I am thinking that the tins are in different capital cities with no repetition.
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Post by inatimate1 on Jan 16, 2019 12:04:48 GMT -5
Did some searching for lighthouses in Capital cities and there is one in Rome, Italy that overlooks the city, including the Vatican. Bit of a stretch, but the Pope eats at the Vatican. One of the papal flags has a large bear on its emblem. Since you can see a panoramic view of the city you might be able to see the playground. There is a kids' playground called Parco Adriano with benches and a statue of Hadrian (Hadrian's Wall). There are park benches. Still trying to get a better view. I still think that the bright road is a well-lit road. I am thinking that the tins are in different capital cities with no repetition. I'm gearing towards Rome as well, there's a region called Centocelle to the East, or as it translates, "one hundred cells", which could be our "century" There's a few amusement parks around there as well. Two to the north along with Cartoon Park, and one to the south. Sadly I can't find any sort of link to a bright road past any of these places though
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Post by vittafernandez on Jan 17, 2019 18:21:55 GMT -5
Still obsessing over Rome. From the lighthouse on Janiculum Hill, it's only a one minute walk to the commemorative plaque of Anita Garibaldi. It commemorates 100 years of the war of the Farrapos fought in Brazil. From there it's just a short walk to the Parco de Gianicolo. There are benches there. Still trying to find "Where children play". I'm sure there's a playground there somewhere.
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