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Post by van on Feb 11, 2019 21:27:14 GMT -5
If the poem is a road map,
As I have gone aloNE IN THERE - anagram 93
WWWH - 212
FF - 200
Route 93, 212 and 200 in Montana make a circle around the National Bison Range (HOB)
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 11, 2019 22:37:13 GMT -5
You're barking up the right tree. Just have to consider more variants.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:27:39 GMT -5
If the poem is a road map,
As I have gone aloNE IN THERE - anagram 93
WWWH - 212
FF - 200
Route 93, 212 and 200 in Montana make a circle around the National Bison Range (HOB) Van I think that I can find a hob in the south state never thought about Montana. But I have claim like some "I KNOW WHERE IT IS."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -5
If the poem is a road map,
As I have gone aloNE IN THERE - anagram 93
WWWH - 212
FF - 200
Route 93, 212 and 200 in Montana make a circle around the National Bison Range (HOB) Van I think that I can find a hob in the south state never thought about Montana. But I have claim like some "I KNOW WHERE IT IS." There's 11000 TC out there we all know where the TC is 😂
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Post by Apple on Feb 12, 2019 18:02:06 GMT -5
Hello Van, I'm relatively new to this game so what do I know.
"As I have gone alone in there" also has "I" which could be Roman numeral one, "gONE," and "alONE" in addition to your anagrams for nine and three. In your road map conception "I" could also be short for interstate. Does that add anything useful to your thought?
I'm missing something. (As usual.) How did you get 212 and 200 from WWWH and FF?
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Post by npsbuilder on Feb 12, 2019 18:21:52 GMT -5
Hello Van, I'm relatively new to this game so what do I know. "As I have gone alone in there" also has "I" which could be Roman numeral one, "gONE," and "alONE" in addition to your anagrams for nine and three. In your road map conception "I" could also be short for interstate. Does that add anything useful to your thought? I'm missing something. (As usual.) How did you get 212 and 200 from WWWH and FF? Jeff...You are the first person to mention Interstate that I know of on this forum and really surprised. I have traveled all across this country using my 1999 Rand McNally and it's sitting 18 inches from me now. For those that aren't aware of this, county roads are called Trunk Roads. But what do I know, I started the Chase the night when Hurricane Florence was making landfall in NC.
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Post by van on Feb 12, 2019 19:00:47 GMT -5
Where Warm Water Halts = WWWH = 212 because this is where water turns to steam. There is a route 212 in Yellowstone near Lamar Ranger station that is typically consider Home of Brown (HOB)by many searchers. FF - Forest Fenn mentions in the "Last 6 questions" that he was at 200 feet when entering the teeth of the Rocky Mountains and also said that the poem is a road map. Also "Not(anagram 2)far but too(00)far = 200.
Yes, there are actually a lot of numbers that can be derived out the of the poem. LisTEN, plACE, Brown (won);keeps me busy (lol)
I also find the letters "INT" together in many places in the poem (too many to be random?), which could be a clue (maybe) that the line contains an interstate # or integer.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 12, 2019 21:25:49 GMT -5
New Member: a consideration--it's 212 only at sea level. None of the 4-state region is at sea-level, and much of it is over a mile high where water boils at under 200 F.
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Post by van on Feb 12, 2019 22:07:28 GMT -5
So you could follow route 200 to the left (nigh). There is a town called weaksville, but it should no place for the meek so keep going; though it does have a buffalo bill creek (interesting). But we need a creek with heavy loads and water high. We come to Deep creek; just past the airport and waterfall; maybe I went to far. Deep can mean heavy and water high. Next the blaze is, ah nobody wants to know what the blaze is ...
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 13, 2019 0:58:30 GMT -5
So you could follow route 200 to the left (nigh). There is a town called weaksville, but it should no place for the meek so keep going; though it does have a buffalo bill creek (interesting). But we need a creek with heavy loads and water high. We come to Deep creek; just past the airport and waterfall; maybe I went to far. Deep can mean heavy and water high. Next the blaze is, ah nobody wants to know what the blaze is ... Yeah, I think that's running off the rails a bit. "6 degrees of poem separation" I like to call it. With 6 associations in series, you can match any word in the poem to any place or person on the planet. ;-) As evidence, one only has to look at all the blog chatter about Molly Brown, brown trout, Joseph Meeks, etc. The closest (funny) analog that comes to mind is the Monty Python skit on Word Association:
"Tonight's the night I shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football. This is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory. It is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the miller's son this so-called while you were out word association immigrants' problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleekit cowering timrous beasties all-American Speke, the famous explorer. And the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library that we are even doing it is a far, far better thing that I do now then, now then, what's going onward Christian Barnaard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me. So on the button, my contention causing all the headaches, is that unless we take into account of Monte Cristo in our thinking George the Fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing, about human nature, man's psychological make-up some story the wife'll believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard, I'll kick him in the Ball's Pond Road."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 6:55:57 GMT -5
So you could follow route 200 to the left (nigh). There is a town called weaksville, but it should no place for the meek so keep going; though it does have a buffalo bill creek (interesting). But we need a creek with heavy loads and water high. We come to Deep creek; just past the airport and waterfall; maybe I went to far. Deep can mean heavy and water high. Next the blaze is, ah nobody wants to know what the blaze is ... Yeah, I think that's running off the rails a bit. "6 degrees of poem separation" I like to call it. With 6 associations in series, you can match any word in the poem to any place or person on the planet. ;-) As evidence, one only has to look at all the blog chatter about Molly Brown, brown trout, Joseph Meeks, etc. The closest (funny) analog that comes to mind is the Monty Python skit on Word Association:
"Tonight's the night I shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football. This is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory. It is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the miller's son this so-called while you were out word association immigrants' problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleekit cowering timrous beasties all-American Speke, the famous explorer. And the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library that we are even doing it is a far, far better thing that I do now then, now then, what's going onward Christian Barnaard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me. So on the button, my contention causing all the headaches, is that unless we take into account of Monte Cristo in our thinking George the Fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing, about human nature, man's psychological make-up some story the wife'll believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard, I'll kick him in the Ball's Pond Road."
All I can see the Veteran is thinking to deep. The more the Veteran works on the poem the more he becomes lost.
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Post by Apple on Feb 13, 2019 14:32:15 GMT -5
Van, thanks for your explanation of 212 and 200. I thought you were getting it through some anagram method like the 93. Slow me.
Adding to Zaphod's comment about atmospheric pressure, minerals dissolved in the water can also alter the boiling point (e.g. salted water for my spaghetti). Wow, this can get wanky fast. While we're at it, how about other temperature scales (i.e. Celsius or Kelvin)?
If the boiling point is indeed Fenn's answer for WWWH, it doesn't seem unreasonable that he'd use the conventionally associated value on the conventional Fahrenheit scale--212.
Thanks again for spelling it out.
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Post by npsbuilder on Feb 13, 2019 16:47:38 GMT -5
So you could follow route 200 to the left (nigh). There is a town called weaksville, but it should no place for the meek so keep going; though it does have a buffalo bill creek (interesting). But we need a creek with heavy loads and water high. We come to Deep creek; just past the airport and waterfall; maybe I went to far. Deep can mean heavy and water high. Next the blaze is, ah nobody wants to know what the blaze is ... Yeah, I think that's running off the rails a bit. "6 degrees of poem separation" I like to call it. With 6 associations in series, you can match any word in the poem to any place or person on the planet. ;-) As evidence, one only has to look at all the blog chatter about Molly Brown, brown trout, Joseph Meeks, etc. The closest (funny) analog that comes to mind is the Monty Python skit on Word Association:
"Tonight's the night I shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football. This is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory. It is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the miller's son this so-called while you were out word association immigrants' problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleekit cowering timrous beasties all-American Speke, the famous explorer. And the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library that we are even doing it is a far, far better thing that I do now then, now then, what's going onward Christian Barnaard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me. So on the button, my contention causing all the headaches, is that unless we take into account of Monte Cristo in our thinking George the Fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the Watford Public Library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing, about human nature, man's psychological make-up some story the wife'll believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard, I'll kick him in the Ball's Pond Road."
Wow zap...that was a mouthful and sad to say I think I followed most of what you said. Last night, me with 6 beers, I didn't get past the 6 degrees. I want to pick your brain sometime to see what all is up there at 14 degrees C.
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Post by van on Feb 13, 2019 16:57:30 GMT -5
yes, I took it to far. I got distracted by the "Big Hole" mountain. Looks like a tooth with a cavity; and just for fun the "Rainbow Lake" on the side. Then there was Cougar Lookout; did you know that cougars were once sabur-tooth tigers and they lost their teeth trying to kill rabbits. I got so distracted that I ended up at White Castles, did a U-turn, and went home.
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Post by npsbuilder on Feb 13, 2019 16:59:49 GMT -5
Van, thanks for your explanation of 212 and 200. I thought you were getting it through some anagram method like the 93. Slow me. Adding to Zaphod's comment about atmospheric pressure, minerals dissolved in the water can also alter the boiling point (e.g. salted water for my spaghetti). Wow, this can get wanky fast. While we're at it, how about other temperature scales (i.e. Celsius or Kelvin)? If the boiling point is indeed Fenn's answer for WWWH, it doesn't seem unreasonable that he'd use the conventionally associated value on the conventional Fahrenheit scale--212. Thanks again for spelling it out. Jeff...One thing I have noticed is that ff likes to use measurements that are not Standard Units. I have not heard any discussions about what other searchers interpretation of 8.25 North is. I think most searchers assume the mile is the US (Standard) mile. There are at least 5 other ways to say the same thing and mean something totally different. That goes to directions of movement as well depending from point of view, context and from which body part of upright animal for fish in water. Quickly down is at least 3 different directions from the same start point.
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