Clue

[brydena]

Ah HAH! Now I know where Forrest's Treasure is located!!!

[fennster]

So does anyone feel as though they were benefitted from the coded words?

[mcb]

Yep! ... and nope.
That sentence only confirmed what I already knew. That Searchers Blog's still have not found the description of the place in the poem.
I expected something more specific, in code, maybe, but more useful for the "right spot" (how to access it, for example).

[harrytruman]

Apr 8, 2019 9:10:44 GMT -5 fennster said:

So does anyone feel as though they were benefitted from the coded words?

Yes, because I think I've been to the right spot, and something there wasn't obvious to me at the time, but now I think it should have been.

In other words, Forrest's message has fed by confirmation addiction. It should be enough to sustain me to until my BOTG disappointment.

[Deleted]

Apr 7, 2019 15:05:49 GMT -5 fennster said:

Well, I'd also say that there is something with my blaze that is a direct call out to the chest. Which when I discovered this, I was certain I was going in the right direction.

I was hoping that the clue would share something a bit more, but that is ok. I guess it just means I have to trust my solve and go back again.

Reminds me of "ET call home"  - Surely, the sum of all our searching isn't in vain.  I'm gonna deposit my memories of this quest (great pics, notes, etc) somewhere safe and secure.  It will make a good story to tell my grandkids.  

[zaphod73491]

Apr 8, 2019 10:01:06 GMT -5 mcb said:

Yep! ... and nope.
That sentence only confirmed what I already knew. That Searchers Blog's still have not found the description of the place in the poem.
I expected something more specific, in code, maybe, but more useful for the "right spot" (how to access it, for example).

McB: looking for a common theme in your posts over the months, it seems pretty clear to me that you believe the chest in on private property. If so, it's a little more disturbing that you have been endangering others by asking them to search on your behalf. I don't know how trespassing is looked upon in Brazil, but doing so in the American West is asking to be shot. Please tell me I'm wrong, and that I have misinterpreted your often cryptic posts. The treasure chest is not in a dangerous location, and I would say that entering private property without permission is undeniably dangerous.

[mcb]

Apr 8, 2019 13:59:15 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Apr 8, 2019 10:01:06 GMT -5 mcb said:

Yep! ... and nope.
That sentence only confirmed what I already knew. That Searchers Blog's still have not found the description of the place in the poem.
I expected something more specific, in code, maybe, but more useful for the "right spot" (how to access it, for example).

McB: looking for a common theme in your posts over the months, it seems pretty clear to me that you believe the chest in on private property. If so, it's a little more disturbing that you have been endangering others by asking them to search on your behalf. I don't know how trespassing is looked upon in Brazil, but doing so in the American West is asking to be shot. Please tell me I'm wrong, and that I have misinterpreted your often cryptic posts. The treasure chest is not in a dangerous location, and I would say that entering private property without permission is undeniably dangerous.

You are right in everything you said, but recovering the chest requires, as FF said, to think, to plan, to analyze.



I have enough evidence (evidence) to move to America and sort it out. I'm not the type who burns candles with weak saints.



What I can say is: the chest is in an area that is not dangerous. To tell you the truth, it's almost a simple walk. The problem is to get to the place. There is an area of ​​National Park, State, private property and finally, state controlled that can be crossed.



These areas are easily accessible to the public. Except the last, State controlled, which was totally banned for the public in 2012. And it is precisely this restricted area that gives access to the "wood".



I imagine that when FF was in place there were not so many access restrictions.



Other researchers (including Dal Neitzel) were very close to this place, but since they did not follow the whole poem, they did not notice something remarkable that they had in front of them: "blaze". And even if they had identified, they would not know what to do, because they stop studying the poem in the "blaze". Even today they do not know the last clue! By the time one of the veterans understood the last clue he would go straight to the chest.

If there is not a change in local laws, or I not find a way to access the site, the chase can actually last a thousand years.

[goldwatch]

Apr 8, 2019 17:55:18 GMT -5 mcb said:

Apr 8, 2019 13:59:15 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

McB: looking for a common theme in your posts over the months, it seems pretty clear to me that you believe the chest in on private property. If so, it's a little more disturbing that you have been endangering others by asking them to search on your behalf. I don't know how trespassing is looked upon in Brazil, but doing so in the American West is asking to be shot. Please tell me I'm wrong, and that I have misinterpreted your often cryptic posts. The treasure chest is not in a dangerous location, and I would say that entering private property without permission is undeniably dangerous.

You are right in everything you said, but recovering the chest requires, as FF said, to think, to plan, to analyze.



I have enough evidence (evidence) to move to America and sort it out. I'm not the type who burns candles with weak saints.



What I can say is: the chest is in an area that is not dangerous. To tell you the truth, it's almost a simple walk. The problem is to get to the place. There is an area of ​​National Park, State, private property and finally, state controlled that can be crossed.



These areas are easily accessible to the public. Except the last, State controlled, which was totally banned for the public in 2012. And it is precisely this restricted area that gives access to the "wood".



I imagine that when FF was in place there were not so many access restrictions.



Other researchers (including Dal Neitzel) were very close to this place, but since they did not follow the whole poem, they did not notice something remarkable that they had in front of them: "blaze". And even if they had identified, they would not know what to do, because they stop studying the poem in the "blaze". Even today they do not know the last clue! By the time one of the veterans understood the last clue he would go straight to the chest.

If there is not a change in local laws, or I not find a way to access the site, the chase can actually last a thousand years.

mcb, I think that FF would know if the place was now sealed off, and have done something about it.
Do you think an 80 year old could make two trips there, in one afternoon? This doesn't sound like it's right, given the info you've given so far.

[mcb]

Apr 8, 2019 18:10:58 GMT -5 goldwatch said:

Apr 8, 2019 17:55:18 GMT -5 mcb said:

You are right in everything you said, but recovering the chest requires, as FF said, to think, to plan, to analyze.



I have enough evidence (evidence) to move to America and sort it out. I'm not the type who burns candles with weak saints.



What I can say is: the chest is in an area that is not dangerous. To tell you the truth, it's almost a simple walk. The problem is to get to the place. There is an area of ​​National Park, State, private property and finally, state controlled that can be crossed.



These areas are easily accessible to the public. Except the last, State controlled, which was totally banned for the public in 2012. And it is precisely this restricted area that gives access to the "wood".



I imagine that when FF was in place there were not so many access restrictions.



Other researchers (including Dal Neitzel) were very close to this place, but since they did not follow the whole poem, they did not notice something remarkable that they had in front of them: "blaze". And even if they had identified, they would not know what to do, because they stop studying the poem in the "blaze". Even today they do not know the last clue! By the time one of the veterans understood the last clue he would go straight to the chest.

If there is not a change in local laws, or I not find a way to access the site, the chase can actually last a thousand years.

mcb, I think that FF would know if the place was now sealed off, and have done something about it.
Do you think an 80 year old could make two trips there, in one afternoon? This doesn't sound like it's right, given the info you've given so far.

Yes, with just a little "effort". And I say more: Your car could be "put in" less than a mile from the hiding place.

[zaphod73491]

I'm confident that wherever Indulgence is currently wintering, there are no human-institution-based restrictions that would prevent recovery by any of us ... and by that, I mean without permission, permit, danger or legal ramifications. It is a place accessible by anyone whenever Mother Nature allows. I will never search a location that does not adhere to those conditions.

[mcb]

Apr 9, 2019 0:13:18 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

I'm confident that wherever Indulgence is currently wintering, there are no human-institution-based restrictions that would prevent recovery by any of us ... and by that, I mean without permission, permit, danger or legal ramifications. It is a place accessible by anyone whenever Mother Nature allows. I will never search a location that does not adhere to those conditions.

That makes me relieved. Less competition. But I'll leave something to you to think, about who Forrest Fenn is: (I did not list the sources because you know where these quotes are.)

1 - Forrest Fenn on Business 
FENN: My style is homemade. It was bred with logic, hard work, guts, and imagination. And that’s all there is to it. It didn’t require money, it just had - I’ve always been a thinker. I lay awake in the morning after I wake up for an hour and I think, and I get ideas. A synonym for ideas is imagination. And I have guts. Imagination is not worth anything to you if you don’t have guts. But if you have imagination and guts and you’re willing to work, just back away, cuz I’m backing up to get a running start at you. And if you think that I’m being tough, then I wear that on my sleeve. I love that. If somebody hits you in the nose, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out what’s going on. When I got into business in Santa Fe, I went to a store up on Canyon Road that sold Kachina dolls. There were thousands in there. They were so thick you could hardly walk down an aisle. And in every open spot there was a little sign, “If you touched it, you bought it. If your kids break it it’s yours.” On and on and on. I put my hands - I got as small as I could and raced for the door. I thought it was gonna cost me a fortune before I could get out. I got home and I said, “I hate that place.” How can anybody buy anything if they’re not allowed to touch it? So I made a bunch of signs and put them around my business. “Please touch. I am responsible.” Seventeen years I owned my business in Santa Fe, a customer never broke anything. Why are we so paranoid? I had employees break things. I never had a customer break one. Why are we so paranoid? I pull up into a store, and there’s no parking. Your car will be towed, blah, blah, blah. So I go in that store, and I say, “Why do you threaten me? Why do threaten your customers?” “What are you talking about Mr. Fenn?” “You’re threatening me. Somebody’s gonna tow my car out there.” “Oh, that doesn’t mean anything.” I remember one time I was in Central Park in New York, talking to a cop. He was walking around. And I was tired. And there was a bench over there that said, “Wet Paint. Do not sit here.” I said okay, but I was tired, and the cop walked over there with me and we were talking about something else and I touched the bench. I touched the bench here, and touched the bench here. There’s no wet paint there. I said, “Mr. Policeman, what kind of city do you have here where you threaten me?’ The bench is put here for me to sit down on it, and now you threaten me, you tell me not to sit on it. Why is your city lying to me? Why doesn’t your sign say, “This bench may be wet. Sit at your own risk.” What’s wrong with that? Somebody’s not thinking. That sign was probably on there for two weeks, nobody sat on the bench for two weeks because the paint was wet. It dried in 30 minutes. I hate things like that. But, what are you gonna do? I mean, I sat on the bench. I thought the cop was going to arrest me because it said don’t sit here."

2 - "Let us put things in perspective and look at them from a different slant. There are 654,885,389 acres of land in the United States that are owned by the American people. That is what the federal government admits is "public property." And the population of this great country is 313,914,040. After doing the math I learn that my allotment is exactly 2.086 acres.
Now, what if I wanted to secret a can of Dr. Pepper under a rock in the cooling waters of a rivulet somewhere in my allotted public acreage? If I did, I would not need to use all of my area, I would need just 7.5 fluid ounces and 90 calories of space. And I would still have about 2.08555 acres remaining. Seems fair to me but would I have broken the law? Yes or No? If yes, then let us change the law because who knows where that nonsense could end. If no, then why are we getting so excited about the little things?"

3 - "When I was a young teenager, one of my favorite places to fish in Yellowstone Park was Grebe Lake. It was about 150 acres in size and full of Arctic Grayling and 16” rainbows. My dad and I always fished it two or three times during our three-month summer stays in West Yellowstone. To get there from town we’d drive to Madison Junction, take a left to Norris Junction, then a right and start looking for a small sign on the left that said Grebe Lake Trailhead. The trail was actually a narrow sandy road that was blocked by a locked gate. It was an easy three mile walk from the gate to the lake, even carrying enough gear to stay a couple of nights.
Concy Wood, my high school football coach, frequently went to Yellowstone with us. One day he expressed the desire to fish Grebe Lake one last time. His legs were not good enough to make the walk and he suffered from the early stages of Parkinson’s disease, although we didn’t know it at the time. My request to the National Park Service for a one-time, special medical waiver to drive Concy through the gate to the lake was turned down. The very nice letter in reply explained that it was long-established policy to make no exceptions and the park executive who signed the letter made an earnest effort to explain to me the wonders of Yellowstone Park."

4 - "The spot where I hid the treasure was in my mind from the time I first started thinking about the chase. It is special to me and there was never another consideration. I was going to make it work no matter what. In my reverie I often find myself stealing away to that place and I will always consider it to be mine."

5 - “There’s no place that you can put [the treasure] that under the right circumstances there are not complications,”

LOL