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Post by efanton on Aug 3, 2019 15:31:12 GMT -5
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Aug 3, 2019 19:54:17 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think of this...
Beside a bird that's rarely thrown
I think most of feel pretty strongly that this line may suggest a "Turkey" in bowling. XXX or 101010. What we are looking for is beside a Turkey. I had mentioned a Double previously in the thread, which is also a bowling term. so... XX or 1010.
Astride a treasure on its own
XX, viewing it creatively, has a Diamond at it's center, each X astride a treasure (precious stone) on its own.
The next plus two is found
XX in roman numerals is 20. Could the number be 202 (this is following the phone number theory, of course, although it could very well fit into an IP address as well)
Spare no expense, search everywhere
Is still lost for me. I hope by posting some of this thinking that some associations may be drawn.
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Post by efanton on Aug 3, 2019 20:49:55 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think of this... Beside a bird that's rarely thrown I think most of feel pretty strongly that this line may suggest a "Turkey" in bowling. XXX or 101010. What we are looking for is beside a Turkey. I had mentioned a Double previously in the thread, which is also a bowling term. so... XX or 1010. Astride a treasure on its own
XX, viewing it creatively, has a Diamond at it's center, each X astride a treasure (precious stone) on its own. The next plus two is foundXX in roman numerals is 20. Could the number be 202 (this is following the phone number theory, of course, although it could very well fit into an IP address as well) Spare no expense, search everywhereIs still lost for me. I hope by posting some of this thinking that some associations may be drawn. Thats the one phrase in the whole stanza that makes no sense whatsoever to me. Is it just padding to make the verse work, possibly, but for the rest of his stanzas each line seems to be a deliberate clue. It starts to make sense in the context of the google place-marker idea I suggested, but I have spent hours search google maps for an X and the only one I have found near Turkey is the one I posted above "X" google place marker
The problem with that location is that really only gives you two possibilities faraklo and drimalia to use as part of an solution. I have tried them as part of loads of domain names and got nowhere so far. To be honest I think that was just a fortunate coincidence. I havent given up on it, It just I dont feel comfortable with it. It seems too obvious, especially as when you look closer you will notice that that place-marker does not appear to be placed by a google user. But that raises the question why in the hell would someone from google put it there, it appears to serve no purpose? Your diamond idea is a possibility, If it was in America then rather than a precious stone as you have suggested baseball spring instantly to mind. But we are told it is near Turkey. Are there any relatively famous baseball teams in that part of the world? Its possible, but I havent got a clue about baseball. But there could be other possibilities for diamond as well. It certainly worth pondering, could it be part of a place name, I know in London they are building (or have built) a new fancy skyscraper called The Diamond
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Post by captnkush on Sept 6, 2019 2:18:59 GMT -5
Ok so im thinking this might have nothing to do with bowling now .see my post on more thoughts .but if my hunch as legs another solve for this stanza may be the name "forrest fenn".ill explain:lets leave out the line for now about next plus two as i think it might connect to stanza three.so starting with astride a treasure on its own. Read it like this : A stride, a treasure on its own.spare no expense, search everywhere .(doesnt this sounds like his hunt so far)beside a bird thats rarely thrown = double eagle.
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Post by captnkush on Sept 6, 2019 14:53:27 GMT -5
I mean this in a totally joking way but ive been busting my brain on this thing and sometimes id like to throw a rarely thrown bird at it. Lol (riddle this)
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Post by treasurer on Sept 6, 2019 22:11:33 GMT -5
I mean this in a totally joking way but ive been busting my brain on this thing and sometimes id like to throw a rarely thrown bird at it. Lol (riddle this) Then it's no longer a rarely thrown bird because I'd like to have thrown it as well... so now there's at least 2 of us and who knows how many others
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Post by accfuller on Sept 11, 2019 7:54:13 GMT -5
I feel like this verse is about wedding rings.
Plus two - implying a set of two
Astride a treasure on its own - the bride
Spare no expense - diamonds and gold
Beside a bird that’s rarely thrown - the ring finger is beside the middle finger ... ya know ... “throw the BIRD”
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Post by captnkush on Sept 11, 2019 14:53:35 GMT -5
I made a joke about that in a earlier thread.but as live in California and and frequently travel the 101 and 405 that bird is not so rare as its thrown all the time...lol .i definitely do like some fresh perspective on the stanza and i like where your head is at.do you see any connection to "ten pins".i keep coming back to "astride" or a stride being refered to as a way someone walks.it fits in the bowling reference but also reminds me of forrest fenns hunt. As ive heard it mentioned alot that going out in nature is a treasure on its own.also he spared no expense when it comes his treasure ,gold, diamonds,jewels ,gold dust,gold nuggets 260 somthing double eagles even the chest itself."search everywhere"kinda makes me think of a treasure map where x marks the spot.now if put that with bowling (turkey) or xxx maybe it means only one x or 10 +2
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Sept 16, 2019 0:20:35 GMT -5
Anyone outside of the bowling analogy? Anyone have a thought out of the box on this one?
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Post by blahpsh on Sept 16, 2019 10:12:27 GMT -5
I had a few random thoughts that I was trying to piece together:
He mentioned frisbee golf and I kind of cling to that. A bird that’s rarely thrown could refer to albatross, condor, or eagle. Pins refers to the pins at the end of each hole. +2 is a double bogey just like golf.
I like to refer back to his interview quite a bit. I feel like it’s a little window into his interests. And I know people are set on bowling but I always had a feeling it might be referring to something else.
The other thing I found was “the next plus two”. I put it “the next” with two letter blanks into an anagram solver and the only word that came up was “sixteenth”. Louis XVI and Versailles came to mind...astride a treasure on its own, spare no expense....etc. And then the other was Lincoln (16th president) and the memorial.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Sept 16, 2019 10:30:40 GMT -5
Thanks. I've kind of put Bowling on the back burner for now. Sure there are references that could be tied to bowling, but I feel like looking elsewhere and not settling is wise. The "astride a treasure" and "spare no expense, search everywhere" lead me away from bowling, aside from the word "spare." I thought it might be a math problem or referencing search engine functions, but still have not had the a-ha! for this stanza.
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Post by susb8383 on Sept 16, 2019 21:14:09 GMT -5
Total coincidence that means nothing, I'm sure, but just noticed there are exactly three Xs in the riddle.
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Post by goldenchild on Sept 16, 2019 22:11:44 GMT -5
Total coincidence that means nothing, I'm sure, but just noticed there are exactly three Xs in the riddle. i google searched your lead of 3 X’s. Very interesting finds. After an extensive search I came to the conclusion it’s not hunt related. After erasing my search history its back to other leads.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Sept 17, 2019 8:06:20 GMT -5
Total coincidence that means nothing, I'm sure, but just noticed there are exactly three Xs in the riddle. i google searched your lead of 3 X’s. Very interesting finds. After an extensive search I came to the conclusion it’s not hunt related. After erasing my search history its back to other leads. I LOLed.
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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 14:35:00 GMT -5
This is the stanza that I'm totally lost on. If it was at the end of the riddle, I would think that the Google marker on Naxos Island found by Efanton was a possibility because of Naxos Music Library.
However, I'm convinced that it won't lead to a location but that this stanza is the middle section of the first key. I realize that it's a very surface reading, but I really think that "the next plus two" is telling us that it is giving us the next three characters in the first key (the next, plus the two after that). I find the idea that there could be a lot of references to Bowling to encourage the Turkey solution, but I'm not sure what to do with the "Astride a treasure on its own" line. Is there a mountain called 'treasure" or something similar in Turkey somewhere?
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