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Post by treasurer on Nov 6, 2019 15:31:26 GMT -5
piano.pdf (7.97 KB)pping this here as a reference ,might inspire a couple more ideas as well. Perhaps the distance btwn notes or wich # key the note lands on .it also shows frequency as well. How did I miss this? Go visit captnkush's original post and access the link (it didn't follow me over). A picture paints a thousand words!
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Post by treasurer on Nov 6, 2019 15:35:36 GMT -5
I was looking at a piano keyboard today, and I noticed another possibility for stanza 5. If we continue to work with C4 F5 C6 E6, I would like to propose 1153 as a solution. The number of keys between C4 and F5 is 11. The number of keys between F5 and C6 is 5. And the number of keys between C6 and E6 is 3. This solution would follow along well with the "play it carefully" clue. Love this idea, but I don't understand where you're getting your numbers. When I count the black and white keys between (non - inclusive) c6 and e6 I do get 3, but for c4 to f5 I get 16 and f5 to c6 is 6. So, following the method I understood you to be using, I got 1663. Did I do something differently than you? Edit: Oh, you're doing white keys only, inclusive! Awesome, that's the interval between the notes, which was another idea I thought of thanks to you. And then I realized that's what you'd found in your counting scheme. 😆 And how did I miss this? I thought I was having an original idea and I see jewelie and keladry12 beat me to it. I like this line of thinking!
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Post by treasurer on Nov 6, 2019 15:39:15 GMT -5
I would also like to suggest using the number of half steps between them instead, which is to say, how far a music theorist would say you traveled to play the notes. Just add one to my previous numbers, so 1774. ... and one more for the road.
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Post by treasurer on Nov 6, 2019 15:49:31 GMT -5
I can play (no pun intended) with the above information in a lot of ways! I'm not a musician so that is all new to me. I can even see a possibility that this Stanza could produce 3 digits rather than 4. If you put that in the context of "ten cuts, ten pins, and turn" correlating with the format of stanzas 3,4,5 ...
maybe by turning, this stanza becomes the first 3 digits (area code) rather than the last 4 digits of a phone number? Food for thought. Time to go exploring and open a lock or two
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Post by treasurer on Nov 6, 2019 19:42:59 GMT -5
I can play (no pun intended) with the above information in a lot of ways! I'm not a musician so that is all new to me. I can even see a possibility that this Stanza could produce 3 digits rather than 4. If you put that in the context of "ten cuts, ten pins, and turn" correlating with the format of stanzas 3,4,5 ...
maybe by turning, this stanza becomes the first 3 digits (area code) rather than the last 4 digits of a phone number? Food for thought. Time to go exploring and open a lock or two My 3 digit observation didn't pan out. The 4 digit numbers are as solid as any other solve I've had looking for the right combination for parts 1, 2, & 3. Now I'm approaching the labor intensive part when recombining different answer combinations for all of the pieces to the KEY... Again, "Lukas can we have the equivalent to a key tester for each stanza?"
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Post by efanton on Nov 6, 2019 20:07:37 GMT -5
I can play (no pun intended) with the above information in a lot of ways! I'm not a musician so that is all new to me. I can even see a possibility that this Stanza could produce 3 digits rather than 4. If you put that in the context of "ten cuts, ten pins, and turn" correlating with the format of stanzas 3,4,5 ...
maybe by turning, this stanza becomes the first 3 digits (area code) rather than the last 4 digits of a phone number? Food for thought. Time to go exploring and open a lock or two Welcome to the dark side Been thinking about how to TURN this whole thing on its head for a week or two. Have to admit that your explanation of the 'ten Cuts, ten pins and TURN' seriously go me thinking. Actually it has grown on me to a degree, its actully a sweet interpretation and could ultimately be the right interpretation . But yes, I have suspected for a little while that the stanza's do not contribute to the final answer in a 3/3/4 as in stanza 3/stanza 4 /stanza 5 but as you have suggested the complete reverse.
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Post by creslin on Nov 14, 2019 13:25:36 GMT -5
I have been thinking through this a lot and have a couple of thoughts Keys on the piano C4 is middle C 10 keys up is F5 four keys is C6 2 keys is E6. That would make the third section of the poem 1042. Play them carefully makes me think of music or a game, my other thought is moves on a chess board but I have not been able to make chess fit as of yet.
( I also just noticed this was mentioned above so dont mind me.)
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Post by GeneticBlend on Nov 19, 2019 11:46:24 GMT -5
Does anyone remember in the movie, "The Goonies" how they have to PLAY THE NOTES CAREFULLY on the piano to escape that cave?
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Post by goldenchild on Nov 19, 2019 16:58:35 GMT -5
Does anyone remember in the movie, "The Goonies" how they have to PLAY THE NOTES CAREFULLY on the piano to escape that cave? sure do. I had the same thought exactly. But how to translate that into digits the correct way?
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Post by captnkush on Nov 20, 2019 11:26:09 GMT -5
Something i was thinking about this morning "the next part is a tricky one so play it carefully: " it seems this phrase works just as good if you take out a1."the next part is tricky so play it carefully ".Is that a clue that we were supposed look for alphanumeric answers or perhaps thats a piece were supposed to swap for for one of our c answers c4 or c6 so we can play it c4 a1 f5 e6 in other words carefully determines the order? I noticed in a previous thread eylse was looking for an a. Could that be the A you were looking for? Following that logic i see two possibilities (4156 or 6156) . Just curious on others thoughts?
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Post by blahpsh on Nov 20, 2019 11:36:17 GMT -5
Something i was thinking about this morning "the next part is a tricky one so play it carefully: " it seems this phrase works just as good if you take out a1."the next part is tricky so play it carefully ".Is that a clue that we were supposed look for alphanumeric answers or perhaps thats a piece were supposed to swap for for one of our c answers c4 or c6 so we can play it c4 a1 f5 e6 in other words carefully determines the order? I noticed in a previous thread eylse was looking for an a. Could that be the A you were looking for? Following that logic i see two possibilities (4156 or 6156) . Just curious on others thoughts? I’ve thought about that before....however, I interpreted it as, the last part is a trick - E1. Rather than the A...
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Post by captnkush on Nov 20, 2019 11:49:24 GMT -5
Something i was thinking about this morning "the next part is a tricky one so play it carefully: " it seems this phrase works just as good if you take out a1."the next part is tricky so play it carefully ".Is that a clue that we were supposed look for alphanumeric answers or perhaps thats a piece were supposed to swap for for one of our c answers c4 or c6 so we can play it c4 a1 f5 e6 in other words carefully determines the order? I noticed in a previous thread eylse was looking for an a. Could that be the A you were looking for? Following that logic i see two possibilities (4156 or 6156) . Just curious on others thoughts? I’ve thought about that before....however, I interpreted it as, the last part is a trick - E1. Rather than the A... this stanza drives me batty i just we had some clarity on what to do with these dam numbers. Do we use 4566 ? Do we configure it some way? What are we missing? Are we missing anything? This three part key ...ugh . Just wish we could check our stanzas independently but i guess that would be too easy.
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Post by treasurer on Nov 20, 2019 13:26:38 GMT -5
Something i was thinking about this morning "the next part is a tricky one so play it carefully: " it seems this phrase works just as good if you take out a1."the next part is tricky so play it carefully ".Is that a clue that we were supposed look for alphanumeric answers or perhaps thats a piece were supposed to swap for for one of our c answers c4 or c6 so we can play it c4 a1 f5 e6 in other words carefully determines the order? I noticed in a previous thread eylse was looking for an a. Could that be the A you were looking for? Following that logic i see two possibilities (4156 or 6156) . Just curious on others thoughts? I’ve thought about that before....however, I interpreted it as, the last part is a trick - E1. Rather than the A... I too have come up with 4156 from another similar interpretation, but 6156 is a new one for me. I'll add that to my list of valid tries for KEY 1.
I'm with captnkush...
My personal arsenal for each of the three parts to KEY 1 is so huge (and just keeps getting bigger as more answers surface), that I'm to the point of dreading any new thought; but only because we don't have a way to test our correctness for each part of KEY 1. Every new thing I try has to be manually recombined with the other 1000 things I've come up in order to strive for the correct 3 part combination... DRUDGERY
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Post by fishmini on Nov 20, 2019 19:05:24 GMT -5
I've been wondering if this stanza is about trick-taking games like euchre and spades or trick avoidance games like reversis and hearts. That would definitely make this stanza a "tricky one." Also, these games involve taking your "turn" and go in a clockwise/counterclockwise direction.
Just a thought.
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Post by captnkush on Nov 20, 2019 19:13:52 GMT -5
I've been wondering if this stanza is about trick-taking games like euchre and spades or trick avoidance games like reversis and hearts. That would definitely make this stanza a "tricky one." Also, these games involve taking your "turn" and go in a clockwise/counterclockwise direction. Just a thought. any chance you would elaborate on euchre as far as how it works? I never played or even heard of b4 this hunt but ive been wondering about it since i first got here as it was something mentioned in his six questions .
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