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Post by susb8383 on Feb 4, 2020 22:07:57 GMT -5
Whoa! That's quite a hint (the screen shot)!
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Feb 5, 2020 20:50:13 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have reread this thread over and over tonight.
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Post by blahpsh on Feb 5, 2020 21:02:44 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have reread this thread over and over tonight. I have taken so many notes tonight. My poor husband and kids will be neglected until I figure this out..... I
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Post by susb8383 on Feb 5, 2020 22:20:17 GMT -5
Last night I did.
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Post by efanton on Feb 5, 2020 23:35:56 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have reread this thread over and over tonight. I could probably repeat some of the posts verbatim and totally blindfolded. Does that make me a totally sad individual. There has actually been very few posts that give a solution with a complete rational. thats the bit thats bugging me though many of the solutions did not give numbers and we know the first key is a 10 digit number.. Earlier on in the hunt I was suggesting that C4 F5 C6 E6 were notes of a song that we had to find .lesleygalaxy suggested that the C4 F5 C6 E6 (or whatever the correct answers to those clues were) are pronounced phonetically so you get b4 becoming 'before' elysethe cat had a really good idea of converting notes to their midi values I suggested early on it might be related to the board game reversi It was also suggested by a number of people early on, that it might be a chess opening. We dismissed that because C4 F5 C6 E6 would result in illegal move. But now that Lukas has said 4566 is not the right answer, have we got one of the C4 F5 C6 E6 wrong? I don't play much chess but if someone does would they know of a chess opening that would be correct if one of those were changed? MrPoirot came up with a interesting idea, I dont necessarily agree with his conclusion ythat it results in NET, but Lukas did specifically say that someone had explained their rational, and to be fair Mr Poirot explain his pretty well. Maybe not NET but still using the rational The Coy Wonder brought up the point that we used the wrong wind scale. Instead of F5 it should be something else There was a lot of discussion about dial tones, and how the could relate to the C4 F5 C6 E6. I think this is definitely worth revisiting. Jewlie brought up the point that maybe t was the distance between the note C4 F5 C6 E6 that was important knowing that 4566 is definitely wrong this is worth looking over again. There two way to count, the number of full tones or the number of semitones, so there should be two alternative answers We have also had ideas of covert hex to decimal, hex to ASCII or Hex to binary posted. I'm sure there a few more but I either missed them or they were posted in other threads. Just though it was a good idea to drag any old idea that now might still be relevant to one place where they are easily accessible
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Post by keladry12 on Feb 6, 2020 9:08:12 GMT -5
I guess my assumption is that it's the interval thing.
C4F5C6E6 are all musical notes. What are the intervals between them? 11th, 5th, 3rd. 1153.
I just don't know anything about finding pictures on google maps. Totally lost there - not even able to do work on it because I don't know what I am working on. (ha)
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Post by susb8383 on Feb 6, 2020 15:53:32 GMT -5
In the video, he said "...the right answer to that stanza has been purposed by someone on the forum with the proper rationale."
My take on this is that he listed two things: 1. the right answer 2. the proper rationale
So to me at least, I think that means it's a post that purposes a 4-digit number, not just a method for getting that number.
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Post by efanton on Feb 6, 2020 17:24:52 GMT -5
In the video, he said "...the right answer to that stanza has been purposed by someone on the forum with the proper rationale." My take on this is that he listed two things: 1. the right answer 2. the proper rationale So to me at least, I think that means it's a post that purposes a 4-digit number, not just a method for getting that number. Can we even be sure now that stanza 5 results in a 4 digit number? I think most will agree we have been thrown (or bowled ) a real curve ball, and nothing is certain about stanza 5 anymore. All we are certain of is that the first key is a 10 digit number and stanza 3 is a Michigan areas code. That leaves 7 digits for stanza's 4 and 5, but nothing has been said for certain as to how many digits of the key comes from each. I think we have to play it save and go through every single theory that has been proposed with a rational, ignore totally how many digits it produces, and then once we have a list of all possibilities take it from there.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Feb 6, 2020 20:14:54 GMT -5
These are the 4-digit solutions presented (that I found)
1663, 1774 1042 (various concepts for spaces between notes) 3212, 5434, 4323, 6545, 5434, 4565 (efanton) 4156, 6156, 0001, 0006, 1000 (cptnkush)
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Post by sren99 on Feb 6, 2020 20:27:27 GMT -5
6454 was also proposed
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Post by susb8383 on Feb 6, 2020 20:53:00 GMT -5
And 3244.
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Post by efanton on Feb 6, 2020 20:59:51 GMT -5
Shoot me down lads if this doesn't make sense
Lets assume that elysethecats solution is correct so we have C4 F5 C6 E6
But what does Lukas say in first line of the stanza
"The last part is a tricky one", which could also be said
The last part is a trick E1
That would give us C4 F5 C6 E1
the E6 is a trick and should be E1 instead.
The solution above has not been spelled out as clearly as that previously, but we have definitely had someone suggesting that we use phonetically sounding words as a solution.
so in instead of 4566 we now have 4561
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Post by keladry12 on Feb 6, 2020 21:00:24 GMT -5
I'm feeling more like we need to do something involving "turn" somewhere in this; what with 10 cuts maybe meaning 10 pieces of lower MI and 10 pins being another bowling reference. Just flipping around back to front? Or maybe "upside down"?
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Post by blahpsh on Feb 6, 2020 21:10:14 GMT -5
Shoot me down lads if this doesn't make sense Lets assume that elysethecats solution is correct so we have C4 F5 C6 E6But what does Lukas say in first line of the stanza " The last part is a tricky one", which could also be said The last part is a trick E1That would give us C4 F5 C6 E1 the E6 is a trick and should be E1 instead. The solution above has not been spelled out as clearly as that previously, but we have definitely had someone suggesting that we use phonetically sounding words as a solution. so in instead of 4566 we now have 4561I like it and I’ve posted about E1 before but without a full solve or explanation. And I’ve gone through pretty much all the posts and don’t see anyone else presenting 4561 unfortunately. And he specifically states the answer and rationale have been posted in the forum.
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Post by efanton on Feb 6, 2020 21:23:18 GMT -5
Shoot me down lads if this doesn't make sense Lets assume that elysethecats solution is correct so we have C4 F5 C6 E6But what does Lukas say in first line of the stanza " The last part is a tricky one", which could also be said The last part is a trick E1That would give us C4 F5 C6 E1 the E6 is a trick and should be E1 instead. The solution above has not been spelled out as clearly as that previously, but we have definitely had someone suggesting that we use phonetically sounding words as a solution. so in instead of 4566 we now have 4561I like it and I’ve posted about E1 before but without a full solve or explanation. And I’ve gone through pretty much all the posts and don’t see anyone else presenting 4561 unfortunately. And he specifically states the answer and rationale have been posted in the forum. I agree. But I dont see any post that give a 4 digit answer and full rational either in the same post. Maybe my eyes are too tired from staring at the screen all day, but has anyone actually posted a solution and rational for stanza 5 I have seen solutions, and logical rationals posted, but not together. Actually looking back now, it was your idea blahpsh to use the E1. But you did not post a 4 digit number with it.
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