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Post by captnkush on Sept 27, 2019 3:05:25 GMT -5
piano.pdf (7.97 KB)pping this here as a reference ,might inspire a couple more ideas as well. Perhaps the distance btwn notes or wich # key the note lands on .it also shows frequency as well.
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Post by captnkush on Sept 27, 2019 18:01:51 GMT -5
Couple other things .on a keyboard or piano i believe (correct me if im wrong) everything to the right of middle c (c4) is played with the right hand.also all 4 of these notes can be found in the key of F.my music knowledge is very limited so if there are any musicians out there please chime in.
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Post by captnkush on Sept 27, 2019 18:10:54 GMT -5
Also i was wondering if anyone out there knows anything about (do ra mi la fa so) as far as how to associate it to a particular note or key on the piano. Might our notes produce something (c4,f5,c6,e6)?
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Post by efanton on Sept 27, 2019 18:19:59 GMT -5
Also i was wondering if anyone out there knows anything about (do ra mi la fa so) as far as how to associate it to a particular note or key on the piano. Might our notes produce something (c4,f5,c6,e6)? I chased down that particular rabbit hole a few months ago. It's used mostly in continental Europe, but I believe it can be used in the USA as well Do ray me fa so la ti doh are just substitutions for the notes on the C major musical scale C D E F G A B If you recall 'The Sound of Music' you will rember the song Doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun, Me etc Its been repeated in the UK and Ireland so many times on TV that I think every kid or person born since the release of the movie has a particular hatred of that song and the movie I tried substituting in various ways the do ray me etc for the letters and numbers in C4 F5 C6 E6 but got nowhere fast. That doesn't mean I tried every possibility, so give it a go if you wish. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge
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Post by efanton on Sept 28, 2019 17:44:30 GMT -5
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Post by efanton on Sept 29, 2019 8:44:28 GMT -5
not sure what to make of this C4 F5 C6 E6 hexidecimal converts to 196 245 198 230 decimal I assumed a map coordinate just for giggles. which would give grid reference 19.6245,19.8230 That converts to 19°37'28.2"N 19°49'22.8"E now for the bit that's a little bit weird. Put that into google maps and what do you get? 19°37'28.2"N 19°49'22.8"EEnnedi Ouest, Chad probably absolutely nothing, but I have said that before and regretted it
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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 12:42:23 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, do re mi etc. is called solfege, and is not associated with specific notes. Rather, it is associated with certain scalar degrees of the major scale. That is, if you were working in C Major, C=do, D=re, E=mi etc, but if you were working in A Major then A=do, B=re, C#=mi, etc. There are also ways to use it for minor scales or accidental notes (notes flatted or sharped outside of a key) by using other syllables like me = a half step below mi.
Additionally, it is not limited to Europe at all, but a key part of all music education at a secondary level in the United States and most (if not all) of the Western world. It has been in use since the twelfth century to teach music by ear.
I was also thinking about how maybe instead of the notes C4, F5, C6 E6, it is referring to the chords? Although F5 is a bit odd to do, it apparently means an open fifth...
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 14:16:28 GMT -5
I was wondering about that myself as each answer would produce multiple notes and thus possibly offer different means of decryption.a couple of things about that :wouldn't c4 be csus4 and f5 would only be two notes(would that still be considered a chord with no major or minor?)anyway my musical theory knowledge is minimal so im sure thats correct.(please feel free to correct if something is a miss)But based on what ive found csus4= C,F,G ,f5= F,C ,c6=C,E,G,A, e6= E,G#,B,C#. If we use our solve this way would it make sense that this is some kinda substitution cipher? there are a couple common methods that have been used to hide messeages in music .
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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 15:06:40 GMT -5
Couple other things .on a keyboard or piano i believe (correct me if im wrong) everything to the right of middle c (c4) is played with the right hand.also all 4 of these notes can be found in the key of F.my music knowledge is very limited so if there are any musicians out there please chime in. 1. When someone is learning very beginning piano, you might stay in "middle c position" in which case you would keep you left hand below middle c and right above, but this is not a general rule. A real pianist will move their hands over the entire keyboard. 2. Yes these notes could be part of the major scale of F, but also C major, A minor, D minor, and other scales. These three notes (c, e, f) are not enough to determine a key for certain.
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 15:23:23 GMT -5
Couple other things .on a keyboard or piano i believe (correct me if im wrong) everything to the right of middle c (c4) is played with the right hand.also all 4 of these notes can be found in the key of F.my music knowledge is very limited so if there are any musicians out there please chime in. 1. When someone is learning very beginning piano, you might stay in "middle c position" in which case you would keep you left hand below middle c and right above, but this is not a general rule. A real pianist will move their hands over the entire keyboard. 2. Yes these notes could be part of the major scale of F, but also C major, A minor, D minor, and other scales. These three notes (c, e, f) are not enough to determine a key for certain. even if you incorporate the octaves 4,5,6,6 as it appears on the piano?
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 15:32:38 GMT -5
Im definitely not a music expert but when asked google if c4,f5,c6,and e6 where part of a particular key in music i did get alot of hits for the key of f. I guess what im trying to figure out is how these different octaves would relate in some way if any.not just the notes or chords themselves .
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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 16:01:04 GMT -5
Yes, octave has nothing to do with key. An F5 sounds like the same note played higher than an F4 etc, etc, etc. There are 12 notes in western music: A, A#/Bb, B, C, C#/Db, D, D#/Eb, E, F, F#/Gb, G, G#/Ab These twelve notes repeated and raised in octave comprise all the notes in western music. Notation-wise, some countries still use the older method of using the note H=(American)B and B=(American)Bb, but I've mostly found this used by my Czech-and-Slovak-folk-music-playing-friends. It makes reading off of their charts a bit more interesting. It's possible that Google thinks you're asking about chords? The chords might be used more in the key of F just because F5 is such an unusual chord notation (an open fifth, just F and C).
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 16:28:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification.in your opinion is there a particular decryption method that stands out to you?
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 17:12:44 GMT -5
Also i was just wondering if anyone has attempted to play this and is there any noticeable connection to the music playing in the background on the video?
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 17:15:40 GMT -5
I realize the riddle itself should be all we need to solve but that doesn't mean there isnt a hint in video. Just a thought.
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