There a photo sphere on Google maps on the other side of the fire road (strangely in the middle of the forest) that I can't open, it might be because I'm in the UK, can someone check if it opens in the US.
Could be. But...I'm trying to reverse engineer what we know and how it relates to the poem.
The stanzas through 5 relate to Key 1 which we pretty much all know. (Anyone new to this forum, just read the posts and you can figure out key 1).
Then we've got Stanza 6:
To find the second key You need assistance from a man Whose fortune came as a surprise While clearing wood upon the land
This had us all stumped until Lukas' hint in conjunction with mini hunt #2 of "Go north 11 miles. There you will find the man who will help you."
The answer is James W. Marshall. Texttext was the first one to post this, but others also figured this out, and it's not too hard to eventually get there with the hint. Approx 11 miles north of the answer to mini hunt #2 is a status of Marshall, the only 'man' you can find in that general area. And then if you google who he is, it's a dead-on match.
So what is the assistance we need from him?
Lukas also gave us a hint that we need a book to get Key 2 (also mentioned on this forum).
Just days after the 11 mile hint, people started finding a webpage that contains cipher text. Findingthetruth mentioned it has numbers, commas, and hyphens which sounds like a book cipher to me. Probably where 'the book' comes in.
So how did they get to the ciphertext page?
We were all stuck until James W. Marshall.
The next stanza is 7, the one for this thread:
Then with your newfound knowledge You must travel through black flame The place where alchemy’s best is found Will help you win this game
It must have something to do with Marshall since that was the catalyst that got at least 4 people I know of to a ciphertext page.
So my thinking is either: A. You're right about Harry Potter and the meaning being that we have to enter something in backwards. Which would mean that something related to Marshall needs to be entered backwards. But...if that's the case, why wouldn't people think key 2 is this 'something?' What would make people go looking on the website for a page?
B. 'The place where alchemy's best is found' is his website and is an indication that we need to find a page. For example, in mini hunt #2 Lukas' "the gem that's hidden" was just a creative way of referring to the prize money. So the place where gold is found might just be a way of saying that digitalburiedtreasure.com is needed.
This begs the question, what is "your newfound knowledge?" Is it the name of James W. Marshall? If so, traveling through black flame might related to him. I was thinking maybe it has something to do with the black smith shop that is part of the same park.
Or is it the book that we need? Is it related to Marshall? to Black Flame? To Harry Potter? And how would we know that we need a book without his hint? I guess just from the format of the ciphertext.
Anyway, Marshall is the key because once people figured him out, they started stumbling on the ciphertext. So I think that's the place to work out from.
I've been out of this hunt for some time so happy to see so much progress has been made! Way back at the beginning I suggested Harry Potter and his quest to get the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone would somehow be part of this and the black flame part keeps bringing me back to that part in the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone.
If the answer to Stanza 6 is James W. Marshall, then I took the newfound knowledge to be what he discovered...gold. The part in Harry Potter with the black flame is a Potion Riddle so I looked up the potion that is gold color which is Felix Felicis (the good luck potion). Tried that on the DBT website but nothing...really was hoping I was on the right track.
Post by elysethecat on Feb 27, 2020 12:05:14 GMT -5
James Marshall (James Wilson Marshall, James W. Marshall) has made the most sense to me since the 11 miles clue.
I also believe the book is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone. At first, I tried to see if I could find a solution using a book code since "book" was specifically mentioned in the phone message. I used the date of the gold discovery (discovery=newfound knowledge, maybe?) 01-24-1848 with no luck, except for making myself crazy. I jumped down that rabbit hole because the Mirror of Esired chapter number is 12, and the number could be broken down as 12-?? - but I couldn't find a way to make the series of numbers work, especially because the Sorcerer's Stone and Philosopher's Stone have different text, paragraphs, words, etc.; though I would imagine if it is a book code, Lukas would have used the American version. I did not try the European way of writing dates, 24-01-1848. The US version has 17 chapters (and 76,944 words). Overall, I wasn't able to make the numbers in the date break down to any reasonable combination of chapter, paragraph, line, word, etc., It sure seemed like a good idea before I spent four straight hours counting and recounting with no clear solution!
Next, I attempted to use different types of key ciphers, where some variation of James Marshall is the key (assisting you) with the text being something along the lines of Mirror of Esired. I only tried a limited combination of ciphers & keys, but I'm at the point where I just wanted to put it down for a few days and come into the forum and share what I've been up to, which is spending a decent amount of time getting absolutely nowhere.
We don't know if Key #2 is a combination of numbers or letters. For what it's worth, I've been trying both, but this might be a good question to ask Lukas next week.
I could also be totally wrong about Harry Potter, but I've been on board with that concept from the beginning, so it's hard to let it go, but I do like some of your ideas about locations in the park and the use of Google Maps, especially considering how literal some of Lukas' solutions have been for the mini hunts.
Quote from Dumbledore in HP1 while explaining how Harry got the stone out of the mirror:
"You see, only one who wanted to find the Stone — find it, but not use it — would be able to get it, otherwise they’d just see themselves making gold or drinking Elixir of Life. My brain surprises even me sometimes..."
Me: Alright, so if I just stop wanting to use the prize money from DBT and just want to find it, then I can get key 2.......
I'm kidding, obviously. I just feel like I've jumped down so many rabbit holes the past week or so that I'm so confused now, everything seems like a clue. Haha
You know what’s a little odd about this illusive ciphertext? I don’t see how it could be anyplace other than the website. But Lukas didn’t create the website until after this hunt was live. Which would mean it was impossible to solve at first. Do you think this ciphertext is at a different domain? Or maybe he just expected it would take a while before people got that far so he had time.