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Post by ric on Jun 9, 2019 11:22:23 GMT -5
After being out of print for several years, Ric Hajovsky’s (that’s me) book about Forrest Fenn and San Lazaro is now an “on demand book” on Amazon books. I wrote The Lost Kivas of San Lazaro at the same time Forrest was preparing to hide his treasure.
Forrest had asked me to find him an antique “book of hours” box in Spain that he could use to bury it in, but I was unable to find one in time and he ended up using one that he found somewhere else. I remember holding one of the gold nuggets that he placed in the box and it was larger than a turkey egg.
I consider Forrest a very good friend and I am pleased that he is enjoying this treasure quest. However, other than what I had to say in my book, I will not answer any questions regarding the treasure.
Good luck, treasure hunters!
Ric Hajovsky
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Post by heidini on Jun 9, 2019 11:48:15 GMT -5
Did you work on site with Forrest at the Pueblo? It must be really neat stepping back in time.
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Post by heidini on Jun 9, 2019 11:49:29 GMT -5
I have heard of a book of days but what is a book of hours?
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Post by ric on Jun 9, 2019 15:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by goldilocks on Jun 9, 2019 18:03:45 GMT -5
Hello Ric, Do you have any idea why Forrest specifically requested a "book of hours" box from Spain?
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Post by heidini on Jun 9, 2019 20:25:21 GMT -5
Hello Ric, Do you have any idea why Forrest specifically requested a "book of hours" box from Spain? Just speculating: in Spain they really love St. James. Spanish work tends to be really ornate. It might have something to do with the Moorish influence of the art. Forrest talked about being in north Africa and that Was Arabic influence, also.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Jun 10, 2019 15:07:28 GMT -5
”Forrest had asked me to find him an antique ‘book of hours’ box in Spain that he could use to bury it in...”
There’s that buried word again. As the years pass, it gets more and more likely, imo.
mm
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Post by heidini on Jun 10, 2019 16:16:37 GMT -5
”Forrest had asked me to find him an antique ‘book of hours’ box in Spain that he could use to bury it in...”There’s that buried word again. As the years pass, it gets more and more likely, imo. mm Good eye!
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Post by heidini on Jun 13, 2019 5:01:43 GMT -5
After being out of print for several years, Ric Hajovsky’s (that’s me) book about Forrest Fenn and San Lazaro is now an “on demand book” on Amazon books. I wrote The Lost Kivas of San Lazaro at the same time Forrest was preparing to hide his treasure. Forrest had asked me to find him an antique “book of hours” box in Spain that he could use to bury it in, but I was unable to find one in time and he ended up using one that he found somewhere else. I remember holding one of the gold nuggets that he placed in the box and it was larger than a turkey egg. I consider Forrest a very good friend and I am pleased that he is enjoying this treasure quest. However, other than what I had to say in my book, I will not answer any questions regarding the treasure. Good luck, treasure hunters! Ric Hajovsky I don’t mean to be rude in any way, but why is your book $189? Plus shipping??? You would move a a ton of copies if it was $50. I can’t imagine very many bring sold. Even $80 would spark some interest.
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 13, 2019 5:31:04 GMT -5
Forrest had asked me to find him an antique “book of hours” box in Spain that he could use to bury it in, but I was unable to find one in time and he ended up using one that he found somewhere else.
"Thousands of manuscripts and printed books survive from medieval Europe but just over 100 book coffers are known to be in existence."...
Members of the public can see the coffer at the free Thinking Inside the Box display, which also features about a dozen fascinating boxes, bags and satchels from around the world that have been used to carry books through the ages.
Hmmm....
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 13, 2019 8:20:10 GMT -5
"Thousands of manuscripts and printed books survive from medieval Europe but just over 100 book coffers are known to be in existence."...
Members of the public can see the coffer at the free Thinking Inside the Box display, which also features about a dozen fascinating boxes, bags and satchels from around the world that have been used to carry books through the ages.
Hmmm....
The price has not been disclosed but the chest was offered in a Pierre Bergé auction in Paris in November 2007 with an estimate of €40,000-50,000. It was bought for an unknown sum by specialist manuscripts and medieval art dealership Les Enluminures, which has now sold it to the Bodleian.
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Post by Jenny on Jun 13, 2019 8:28:24 GMT -5
Oh wow... they are so awesome..!!
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Post by heidini on Jun 13, 2019 16:02:37 GMT -5
I like the “Thinking Inside the Box”
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 14, 2019 4:42:29 GMT -5
I like the “Thinking Inside the Box”
It caught my attention too.
What I also find interesting are the statements that "...just over 100 book coffers are known to be in existence" and that the price paid at auction for the book-coffer was €40,000-50,000.
FF has described his box as a Romanesque lock-box that probably held a "book of days" and dated to around 1150 AD.
On the other hand, the bronze box at the DIA that looks like the photo of ff's box, is said to be probably from the 19thC.
The incompatability between the date of ff's box as evidenced by the photo of it, and as stated by ff, is puzzling.
If the price of $25,000 that ff said that he paid for the chest is correct, it seems to be more consistent with the price achieved at auction for the Bodleian's book-coffer than that which a 19thC bronze box would fetch.
The question therefore which I am now asking myself is:
If ff has actually hidden a box, is it a medieval book-coffer similar to that acquired by the Bodleian, or is it a 19th century bronze chest similar to the one at the DIA ?
Anyone any thoughts?
Also:
Coffret, woodcut of Saint Anne with the Virgin and Child, accompanied by Saints Catherine and Barbara France, Paris, c. 1480-90 $70,000.00
Traditionally called messenger's boxes, these boxes offer proof of their function as receptacles of books, money, jewels, or other precious items: this sturdy reinforced box has metal hoops for straps to attach to the back of the horse or the shoulder of the messenger.
...Counting the other messenger's boxes that exist throughout the world in isolated institutional and private collections, the total number of extant boxes comes to approximately 60. There appear to be at least five examples in the United States: the National Gallery of Art (2), the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Newberry Library, and the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
Coffret, woodcut of Saint Roch, France, probably Paris, c. 1500-1510 $75,000.00
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 14, 2019 22:32:38 GMT -5
"Tarzan" was a former name of "Indulgence".
"Tarzan" means "white skin"
"White skin" is associated with leprosy.
Saint Lazarus/San Lazaro is the patron saint of lepers.
Leper is an anagram of French word "perle" which can mean "treasure".
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