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Post by luna on Jul 25, 2019 14:39:19 GMT -5
Hey everyone! Not sure how many of you saw Lukas's latest video detailing some new info about the hunt/future hunts/etc. You can find the video here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosKLpNOLb0An exciting development is that he has decided to give out one clue each month! The clue will be in the form of a yes or no question. Each month, he will randomly choose one of his Patreon backers to decide on the question. Then, he'll post the answer to everyone. So, if given the chance, what question do you think would be the most helpful to ask Lukas? Currently, I think the question I'd most like to ask would be: Does a phone call need to be made in order to solve the riddle? I'd love to hear what everyone else would most like to ask.
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 25, 2019 18:09:35 GMT -5
Sweeet!
I was thinking of that today too. I have sooo many questions, but I don't think any one answer will help me. Personally, I think I would need a few month's worth of y/n answers to make a dent.
Yup, I also want to ask if a phone number needs to be called, and also: Can the location of the treasure chest be found without solving the keys? Does 'black flame' refer to something external to the riddle (for example, found in a book or song)? Does 'a bird that's rarely thrown' refer to the country of Turkey? Does 'a place that fits you like a glove' mean it is an actual location? Is 'a place that fits you like a glove' somewhere in Michigan? Is it significant that the poem has 10 stanzas? Is the number of letters in the stanzas significant?
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Post by mrpoirot on Jul 25, 2019 20:29:14 GMT -5
I too think that the first question has to be if we need to make a phone call. As for other questions, one could be this: Does key one point to any of the original top level domains? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Original_top-level_domainsRegarding phone vs. url, I do think we are looking for an URL, not a phone number. But until phone numbers have been ruled out we need to look in both directions.
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Post by efanton on Jul 25, 2019 21:27:19 GMT -5
Personally I dont think its a phone number but a web address that we are looking for. But never say never, it would be good to rule out a phone number, its a hard enough puzzle as it is, and being able to rule out an entire theory would be a good first question.
I would ask the same question 1st 'Does the solution involve making a phone call'
The next question I would ask is 'Does the title of a song have a part in the solution?' Stanza 5 is a complete pig of a puzzle. We have musical notes (C4 F5 C6 E6 but my personal thinking is one of the C's is an A) but what do we do with them? Elsethecat has a reasonably solid theory that they are not musical notes but Hexadecimal values and that does make logical sense. It could be that we simply drop the numbers to give a top level domain ( for example if the solutions to the riddle were A5 F5 C6 E6, that could give us the TLD .CAFE) the nightmare scenario is that they are indeed musical notes and we have to find a song that starts with those notes, but I have spent far too many hours trying to find a way to search for songs given only the first 4 notes of the song. There's 3 very good theories right there, each involving many many hours of work even if you were on the right track. It would be nice to narrow down the theories relating stanza 5
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Post by inatimate1 on Jul 26, 2019 6:28:55 GMT -5
I think I'd rather have absolute clarity on the Fifth Stanza, everyone seems to be so certain that it's made up of "C4 F5 C6 E6" that it's virtually been accepted to be a given that it's the correct solution and format. So I would ask...
Does the fifth stanza of the riddle provide four separate pieces of information all in the format of a letter followed by a number?
I'd just rather have the fifth stanza completely narrowed down to a set format, just in case we've been looking at it all wrong since the word go
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Post by squirejames88 on Jul 26, 2019 9:08:20 GMT -5
If I only had 1, it would be the phone call question.
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Post by goldenchild on Aug 19, 2019 0:33:17 GMT -5
We should start throwing out ideas for this next months yes/no question. I think trying to narrow down what we are even looking for in the first keys might help. Like “does finding or solving the first three keys yield a website address?” Or “do the first three keys yield a series of numbers with no letters?” Any suggestions?
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Post by susb8383 on Aug 19, 2019 6:01:30 GMT -5
We should start throwing out ideas for this next months yes/no question. I think trying to narrow down what we are even looking for in the first keys might help. Like “does finding or solving the first three keys yield a website address?” Or “do the first three keys yield a series of numbers with no letters?” Any suggestions? I think you mean three pieces to the first key, not three keys.
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Post by goldenchild on Aug 19, 2019 11:42:29 GMT -5
We should start throwing out ideas for this next months yes/no question. I think trying to narrow down what we are even looking for in the first keys might help. Like “does finding or solving the first three keys yield a website address?” Or “do the first three keys yield a series of numbers with no letters?” Any suggestions? I think you mean three pieces to the first key, not three keys. thats what I meant. Thanks for catching that. I guess I should re read my post before I hit post.
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Post by squirejames88 on Aug 19, 2019 16:37:15 GMT -5
I think you are on the right track. It just needs to be worded carefully to try and close generalized or vague answers. It's obvious we are stuck and losing interest.
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Post by efanton on Aug 19, 2019 16:53:29 GMT -5
We should start throwing out ideas for this next months yes/no question. I think trying to narrow down what we are even looking for in the first keys might help. Like “does finding or solving the first three keys yield a website address?” Or “do the first three keys yield a series of numbers with no letters?” Any suggestions? I think you mean three pieces to the first key, not three keys. Personally I would want to clarify stanza 5. What do we do with the C4 F5 C6 E6 (or what ever are the correct answers)? If we are smart about the way we phrase the question regarding stanza 5, it will also answer your question as well. Simply finding out whether the three parts of the first key yield numbers or a URL does't really help unless you have a complete solution to stanza 5 that you are keeping to yourself. what we really need to know is does stanza 5 give us a top level domain or how we manipulate the C4 F5 C6 E6 to give us the correct answer. I doubt Lukas will ever give a direct answer to that, so we have to be a bit smarter in the way we ask the question so that he cant be evasive in his reply. So how do we word it so that he gives us what we need to continue to solve stanza 5 (and the solution will inevitably determine whether its numbers we are looking for or a URL)?
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Post by susb8383 on Sept 1, 2019 10:52:48 GMT -5
I thought of another question I was going to ask if picked.
Something like: Is there anything besides the meaning of the words themselves to be gleaned from the riddle? For example, (and not limited to) a cipher, an acrostic, etc.
I wonder if there is something hidden in the words of the poem.
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Post by inatimate1 on Sept 1, 2019 11:20:41 GMT -5
I still think it would be worthwhile asking if the stanza containing....
Explode, the strongest wind No sea legs here, a song by D.D.E
Produces an 8 character answer in the format letter/number/letter/number/letter/number/letter/number
At least that way we will get absolute clarification that we've got that one worked out the correct way and it can effectively be boxed off as completed
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Post by efanton on Sept 1, 2019 13:49:17 GMT -5
I still think it would be worthwhile asking if the stanza containing.... Explode, the strongest wind No sea legs here, a song by D.D.E Produces an 8 character answer in the format letter/number/letter/number/letter/number/letter/number At least that way we will get absolute clarification that we've got that one worked out the correct way and it can effectively be boxed off as completed The problem with asking that in a format that gives a simple yes/no as Lukas has requested is that his response might be meaningless For instance , if you ask He could answer no. Not because it doesnt involve 4 hexadecimal numbers, but because they have to be manipulated once gotten in order to get a a different answer. The wording of any question asked is ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL.
A Yes or NO result must mean something very definite. Not be an answer to a generalisation The correct way to have asked the above question would be Who ever gets to write the question must be absolutely 100% positive that a Yes or a NO answer can actually only mean ONE THING in respect to the question asked? Wording is everything.
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Post by efanton on Sept 1, 2019 14:02:59 GMT -5
If I had the chance to ask a question in the format that Lukas has asked resulting in a simply YES/NO this would be it.
Does stanza 5 result in a Top Level Domain (TLD, eg .COM .ORG .DE etc)?
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