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Post by treasurer on May 28, 2020 9:00:42 GMT -5
What about a location clue: "Can the info be gathered from just one street view?" It doesn't seem to me, that that question would give us much to go on, whether it be yes or no? I personally think navelgazer's question about only needing 1 street view would be quite useful. I can see certain types of information found all along the stretch; or I can see certain types of information found only in a single store front. Eliminating any unnecessary info would be very helpful.
I'm also for a question that does help clarify how to "manipulate" the info. However, in my world, I think it's safe to assume we are finding a PayPal password... so not requiring a phone number (EDIT: for key #2)?
Lukas did mention he thought this hunt would soon be coming to an end so the must be something that is obvious to him but not the rest of us. What is it? Think,think,think...
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Post by treasurer on May 28, 2020 9:07:38 GMT -5
Maybe a question about stanza 8? Something like are all of the instruction we need to know contained in that one stanza? (or something similar). Gotta go to work. Just thought I'd throw something out to get people thinking.
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Post by richk on May 28, 2020 9:10:50 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to me, that that question would give us much to go on, whether it be yes or no? I personally think navelgazer's question about only needing 1 street view would be quite useful. I can see certain types of information found all along the stretch; or I can see certain types of information found only in a single store front. Eliminating any unnecessary info would be very helpful.
I'm also for a question that does help clarify how to "manipulate" the info. However, in my world, I think it's safe to assume we are finding a PayPal password... so not requiring a phone number?
Lukas did mention he thought this hunt would soon be coming to an end so the must be something that is obvious to him but not the rest of us. What is it? Think,think,think...
At this point I feel like the first key has to be the login because I cant imagine the second key giving us enough information to be the login and the password at the same time. And there is no way it’s just a coincidence that number does not need to be confirmed. I’m 100% sticking to my guns on this. I think that what Coy said will hands down be the most important question How to manipulate the info. If we don’t know how to manipulate it what ever numbers or letters we have will be useless unless the “equal” is just making an equation again. It could look something like 123AA321 or A123321A or A101010A something like that who knows. It can’t be all the same digit because PayPal would never allow that.
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 9:48:50 GMT -5
I agree we are putting together a password. I suspect that you have to manipulate the I formation more than once or in more than one way. It seems hard to get a helpful yes/no question. I would love to see a hint toward identifying the info. Like are we done with the cipher now that we are in town? I would REALLY love a bonus hint though.
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Post by thedutchcoder on May 28, 2020 10:52:50 GMT -5
My question would be: "Does crucial information pertaining the second key appear in geographical locations other than indicated by the red line drawing?"
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 14:02:32 GMT -5
So I've been working on manipulating the words in the 9th stanza using info found on street view. I did 2 decryptions and got a readable line that could be referencing gas prices on a certain day. I cant find older street views for the Chevron, though I may just be doing something wrong. So it means I need to hunt down the info on the net. That would give me numbers, I'm trying to use the a similar process to yield a usable word, So far I have had no luck. I could be close, or this could be 1000 monkeys typing for 1000 years and getting Shakespeare, just a coincidenece.
My questions would be:
Do we need to manipulate words In the 9th stanza.
Is the info to be manipulated found entirely in street view
Does the info that needs to be manipulated have to be found with further research.
Do you require more than one process of manipulation
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Post by richk on May 28, 2020 15:41:58 GMT -5
So I've been working on manipulating the words in the 9th stanza using info found on street view. I did 2 decryptions and got a readable line that could be referencing gas prices on a certain day. I cant find older street views for the Chevron, though I may just be doing something wrong. So it means I need to hunt down the info on the net. That would give me numbers, I'm trying to use the a similar process to yield a usable word, So far I have had no luck. I could be close, or this could be 1000 monkeys typing for 1000 years and getting Shakespeare, just a coincidenece. My questions would be: Do we need to manipulate words In the 9th stanza. Is the info to be manipulated found entirely in street view Does the info that needs to be manipulated have to be found with further research. Do you require more than one process of manipulation look at the gas prices from the side street it’s an older picture with different prices
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 15:50:42 GMT -5
Ok so after finding the dates, the phrase works with the prices from the main street.
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Post by nicoledigsahole on May 28, 2020 15:53:56 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there:
Is the first character of the key a number?
Might help narrow down the combinations of appending things together?
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 16:08:29 GMT -5
I'm still flushing this theory out, so I'm not going to say all my steps, but my reasoning is that Lukas did not originally intend to give us the redline drawing. So after getting us to the right town with the cipher I think the 8th stanza was a neon blinking arrow to be sure that was where we stop. The equis sign is on the ace, the obvious cipher clue, the hidden behind a chair, and equal. Fair tells us to use the play fair. So my 1st step was using a playfair cipher with equis as the key word. There is other stuff I'm not gonna say yet, but I resulted in a phase made up of the 1st 9 letters to appear. It fit with the street view. So it could be the prices, or some obscure process using those numbers, or the date referenced in my result, or a combo of those.
I dont know what the 2nd key is, but I think we all are thinking paypal, and it has to be a combo of letters and numbers with a capital longer than 7 digits. I think I have to do a similar process on the 9th stanza to get a word, then hopefully that's the password. Or this is a fat steaming pile of nothing. If I cant get anywhere I'll post how I got what I did.
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 16:51:31 GMT -5
Yes, I've been messing around with a playfair cipher as well. I feel like I've found some of the info required for it. But no results yield a mix of letters and numbers.
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Post by fishmini on May 28, 2020 17:03:26 GMT -5
I'm still flushing this theory out, so I'm not going to say all my steps, but my reasoning is that Lukas did not originally intend to give us the redline drawing. So after getting us to the right town with the cipher I think the 8th stanza was a neon blinking arrow to be sure that was where we stop. The equis sign is on the ace, the obvious cipher clue, the hidden behind a chair, and equal. Fair tells us to use the play fair. So my 1st step was using a playfair cipher with equis as the key word. There is other stuff I'm not gonna say yet, but I resulted in a phase made up of the 1st 9 letters to appear. It fit with the street view. So it could be the prices, or some obscure process using those numbers, or the date referenced in my result, or a combo of those. I dont know what the 2nd key is, but I think we all are thinking paypal, and it has to be a combo of letters and numbers with a capital longer than 7 digits. I think I have to do a similar process on the 9th stanza to get a word, then hopefully that's the password. Or this is a fat steaming pile of nothing. If I cant get anywhere I'll post how I got what I did. amazing work! You said in a previous post that you did 2 decryptions. Are you willing to say if that was decryptions on two pieces of information or 2 decryptions on the same piece of information?
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Post by silentpartner on May 28, 2020 17:03:55 GMT -5
I'm still flushing this theory out, so I'm not going to say all my steps, but my reasoning is that Lukas did not originally intend to give us the redline drawing. So after getting us to the right town with the cipher I think the 8th stanza was a neon blinking arrow to be sure that was where we stop. The equis sign is on the ace, the obvious cipher clue, the hidden behind a chair, and equal. Fair tells us to use the play fair. So my 1st step was using a playfair cipher with equis as the key word. There is other stuff I'm not gonna say yet, but I resulted in a phase made up of the 1st 9 letters to appear. It fit with the street view. So it could be the prices, or some obscure process using those numbers, or the date referenced in my result, or a combo of those. Was your key word from the street view image or one of the stanzas?
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 17:05:50 GMT -5
It was equis from the ace window
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Post by tabfrankie on May 28, 2020 17:07:23 GMT -5
And I used the 9th stanza for encyption/decryption like the Windsor minihunt for my 1st step
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