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Post by efanton on Sept 30, 2019 22:44:12 GMT -5
People have already talked about it. I haven't brought anything new to the table, really. Maybe I'm just wrong. I didn't realize that other people had two keys they were sure on, because I haven't seen anyone argue through key two AT ALL and it seemed that everyone was stuck on stanza 4 (I'm not sure how you got numbers from your Naxos Island, I'd love to see that). I think that the only logical thing for the keys to be is a login and password. Lukas also said the location was in the puzzle, and that the LOCATION was marked by an x. I think that Stanza nine is more important than many of our compatriots give it credit for, and, after much head banging, am almost certain that you need both stanza six and stanza seven to have your second key. Maybe I missed some things on the forum, or is there somewhere else that people are discussing things too? Speaking for myself, and I'm sure for many others, we have ideas, maybe even solutions, for the two keys, but what dont have is any idea of where to use them. The best bet we have on where to use the keys is a hidden page on the digitalburiedtreasure.com/ website, but either no one has found a page that is asking for a login, or they are keeping it to themselves, Without a login page its very hard to tell if solutions for the keys are correct or not. It could be that any solutions we possibly might have are completely wrong. Even if we get a login page, its quite possible that any feedback you get is completely useless unless you have both keys correct. By that I mean that you could have entered the first key correctly but not the second and all you might get is a message to say that the login is incorrect. This is why ascertaining the format of the keys is so important. If we know its a ten digit number then many potential solutions for the first key can be discarded. I have a couple of potential solutions for stanza 4, but some of them must be discarded if the first key is numbers only. If the first key is numbers only I have two possible solutions for stanza 4, but to be honest I could equally be completely wrong. If it is a word I suspect the answer will be TEMPLE (NAxOS - NAOS astride the X if you see the logic and NAOS meaning temple in Greek). It could also be related to the NAXOS music library and a particular piece of music or composer. With Lukas being a professional musician classically trained this would make sense. The next big breakthrough, in my opinion, will be someone finding a login page, until then everything, even solutions for stanza's that we might individually be confident of, are really only guesses. The problem as I see it is there is no way to make sense of 'Black Flame' and without having an idea of what it actually means it would be almost impossible to ask Lukas a simple YES/NO question that would give an answer that would be useful. |
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Post by keladry12 on Oct 1, 2019 0:07:26 GMT -5
As for Black Flame, I myself am in the HP camp there. I don't think it's about the location of the chest, either. I think you need to use that stanza in conjunction with the previous to get the 2nd key all the way correct.
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Post by captnkush on Oct 1, 2019 12:45:58 GMT -5
Looks like you got wheel ephanton on the question. I know you're gonna think it through . Hopefully we can narrow down some possibilities on this one . Im excited today . May the force be with you
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Post by efanton on Oct 1, 2019 13:11:47 GMT -5
Looks like you got wheel ephanton on the question. I know you're gonna think it through . Hopefully we can narrow down some possibilities on this one . Im excited today . May the force be with you Well I wast expecting that. I'm not saying i'm usually unlucky but if I was to back a horse in a one horse race, it would fall at the first fence and never cross the winning line  I have put some thought into how to word the question, and this is the question I sent Does the first key appear to consist of a 10 digit number?
that should get around any issues raised regarding what is a number, etc |
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Post by treasurer on Oct 1, 2019 13:36:06 GMT -5
Looks like you got wheel ephanton on the question. I know you're gonna think it through . Hopefully we can narrow down some possibilities on this one . Im excited today . May the force be with you Well I wast expecting that. I'm not saying i'm usually unlucky but if I was to back a horse in a one horse race, it would fall at the first fence and never cross the winning line I have put some thought into how to word the question, and this is the question I sent Does the first key appear to consist of a 10 digit number?
that should get around any issues raised regarding what is a number, etc 2 THUMBS UP!!!  |
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Post by efanton on Oct 1, 2019 13:42:51 GMT -5
Well I wast expecting that. I'm not saying i'm usually unlucky but if I was to back a horse in a one horse race, it would fall at the first fence and never cross the winning line I have put some thought into how to word the question, and this is the question I sent Does the first key appear to consist of a 10 digit number?
that should get around any issues raised regarding what is a number, etc 2 THUMBS UP!!! I was sorely tempted to send in your question treasurer, just for the giggles |
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Post by keladry12 on Oct 1, 2019 13:53:50 GMT -5
Excited to see how Lukas will respond!
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Post by treasurer on Oct 2, 2019 21:21:55 GMT -5
2 THUMBS UP!!! I was sorely tempted to send in your question treasurer, just for the giggles I just got home from work and saw the hint... Lukas you're an alright kinda guy. I genuinely hope you are having fun and thank you for the key tester!!!  |
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Post by goavibe on Oct 3, 2019 9:58:59 GMT -5
No offense, but your question opened the door for him to answer in a way that can misdirect. If something appears one way, can it be another? Why not ask directly, “Is the first key a 10 digit number?”
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Post by efanton on Oct 3, 2019 10:23:33 GMT -5
No offense, but your question opened the door for him to answer in a way that can misdirect. If something appears one way, can it be another? Why not ask directly, “Is the first key a 10 digit number?” He has already answered it. |
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Post by catherwood on Oct 3, 2019 12:56:48 GMT -5
yep, he answered that, yes, it APPEARS to be a number. Well, at least a 10-digit number should not begin with a zero. That should narrow it down.
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Post by efanton on Oct 3, 2019 13:08:43 GMT -5
yep, he answered that, yes, it APPEARS to be a number. Well, at least a 10-digit number should not begin with a zero. That should narrow it down. Zero is a number. It has no value but it is still a number. I very much doubt Lukas would use a zero unless it was required (such as a telephone dial code) but I really dont think its possible to rule out a telephone number as you seem to be suggesting. |
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Post by catherwood on Oct 3, 2019 15:28:26 GMT -5
no, i'm saying that a 10-digit number does not start with the numeral zero, by definition. Eighty-seven is a two-digit 87, not a ten-digit 0000000087. If the string as a whole is a single number (and appears that way) then it does not begin with zero. Yes, zero is both a digit and a number. The string now seems to be narrowed down to ten numerals, ten numeric digits, not a sequence of ten unrelated numbers (such as: zero, twelve, seventeen, ..., etc)
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Post by efanton on Oct 3, 2019 15:46:16 GMT -5
0123456789
Thats a ten digit number. Now if it was a phone number, or an ISBN number or something similar, using a zero at the front would be perfectly valid.
If it was a straight forward number then I would agree it would simple be written as 123456789 and therefore could not be a solution. The question is what is the relevance of the number in the first place?
I dont think its possible to dismiss a leading zero, Lukas has not stated anything that allows us to assume a leading zero cannot be used if it is necessary.
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Post by keladry12 on Oct 3, 2019 16:38:54 GMT -5
0123456789 Thats a ten digit number. No, it's not. I've also already explained that to you. It is a string of 10 digits or a NINE digit number. We know that 2 is the same number as 02 is the same as 00002 is the same as 000000000000000000002... Leading zeros are not counted as part of the number. I had assumed that that was why you put "appears" in your question, so we would know it was ten digits AND that it didn't start with zero. |
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