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Post by canuck on Jan 1, 2020 17:31:33 GMT -5
Yer killing me Canuck! Here's the quote from the Sarmiento's Travels in the U.S. in 1847 writings. It's all about Mississippi river and St. Peter and Charles. Page 141 -- tinyurl.com/y3keucecI'm suggesting 1 of 2 things choice, either Byron didn't use Abroad in America at all or if he did he used it for another city to throw people off.
If you don't like the first option that's fine, but it has to be one or the other.
I'll demonstrate with New Orleans:
Verse 6
Or on the eighth a scene Where law defended
These 2 lines are about the Battle of New Orleans which was fought on January 8th, 1815 during which time General Andrew Jackson had declared martial law in New Orleans.
This is much more obvious and mainstream than the execution of a pirate crew in Charleston (of which the memorial in White Point Gardens doesn't give the date)!
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Post by choice on Jan 23, 2020 16:10:19 GMT -5
Have you considered V8? Not the drink but it seems a straight forward verse for Montreal.
3 stories of Mitchell, 2060 Drummond St. 3 story building used to house Mitchell - Holland Beating of the world, Drummond St. 1440 Drummond St. where the 'legeaters' are. Going north you hit 3 streets with peoples names (who lived there?) Sherbrooke + Penfield + Sir William Osler So you end up in Mt Royal Park and Grand Staircase. The rest is counting steps. Image shows a lot of steps everywhere!
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Post by canuck on Jan 23, 2020 20:33:07 GMT -5
I've heard a few people mention Verse 8 for Montreal. It seems you can get certain bits and pieces to fit, but can't say I've seen a complete solve with that verse. The other issue then becomes what verse do you pair with Milwaukee if not Verse 8? Not a whole lot of great Dutch connections in Montreal, probably why I like the Boer War Memorial in Dorchester Square. The Boer War involved Canadians fighting in South Africa, a Dutch colony. Using Verse 2 there are also a few "namesakes" in this area, a couple streets and the Lion of Belfort statue. The original Lion of Belfort is in France, its namesake is in Montreal.
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 23, 2020 20:43:40 GMT -5
love reading this stuff guys, great conversation. also why i stick to the images! i am looking for acorns. you give me context. onward.
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Post by canuck on Jan 23, 2020 21:23:57 GMT -5
I realize it's been a few weeks and I haven't given too much on the New Orleans Verse 6 theory.
May 1913 - this was a young Louis Armstrong's first public appearance with a brass band during Memorial Day/Decoration Day celebrations in New Orleans. The mask in Image 7 looks like Louis Armstrong.
Edwin and Edwina named after him - couple interesting possibilities here: 1. sticking with the Armstrong theme, Edwin and Edwina Armstrong (no relation to each other)are other famous Armstrong you could come across while researching Louis in say a 1980 encyclopedia 2. Edwin and Edwina Booth, named after actor Edwin Forrest....Edwin Booth was John Wilkes Booth's older brother!
Or on the eighth a scene Where law defended - These 2 lines are about the Battle of New Orleans which was fought on January 8th, 1815 during which time General Andrew Jackson had declared martial law in New Orleans.
White house close at hand - New Orleans is the French puzzle, so I changed this line to Maison Blanche and I've got a famous New Orleans Department Store of the era! Their mascot was "Mr. Bingle" and I've heard people reference that how he looked on the outside of the store was similar to the boy with the argyle socks in Image 7. You've also got this 9 to 5 in the image that points to the CBD of New Orleans and an object that looks like a shopping bag. I couldn't find whether Mr. Bingle was outside the store on Canal Street prior to 1984. If he was it could explain the "two arms extended" and "long palm's shadow" could've been either Mr. Bingle's palm or the palm trees on the Canal Street Boulevard.
Just a theory, but I think most people would find it somewhat compelling and see that Verse 6 is not such a lock for Charleston after-all...
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Post by choice on Jan 23, 2020 21:26:58 GMT -5
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Post by choice on Jan 23, 2020 21:41:39 GMT -5
Visually, this place near Lee Circle may be of an interest. Looks similar to the clock hand. tinyurl.com/r5ncwnk[Fixed link, I think]
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Post by choice on Jan 24, 2020 0:04:43 GMT -5
I've heard a few people mention Verse 8 for Montreal. It seems you can get certain bits and pieces to fit, but can't say I've seen a complete solve with that verse. The other issue then becomes what verse do you pair with Milwaukee if not Verse 8? Not a whole lot of great Dutch connections in Montreal, probably why I like the Boer War Memorial in Dorchester Square. The Boer War involved Canadians fighting in South Africa, a Dutch colony. Using Verse 2 there are also a few "namesakes" in this area, a couple streets and the Lion of Belfort statue. The original Lion of Belfort is in France, its namesake is in Montreal. The problem with V8 for Milwaukee is the line "beating of the world" and Japanese clue. Look in dictionary near "drum". I'm sure BP said look in encyclopedia and it got lost in translation. I can't see Kenwood's tagline being in the encyclopedia near drum but Drummond would be. Being from Canada I'm sure you already know 'monde' means world in French. Drummond St. is significant since both Mitchell and the legeaters (Montreal identifier) are on this street.
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Post by choice on Jan 24, 2020 14:11:57 GMT -5
Quote from Japanese translation:
Hints Line 1: The three stories of Mitchell
The word stories has special meaning. It is referring to the three bedtime stories of Mitchell? Or is it referring to the three stories of Mitchell as in a building? The editor said it means three stories as in a building.
Line 2: the beating of the world
This is a more difficult part because beating is referring to a drum, the hint is you need to find the name of a person for this. To find this person’s name pull up a dictionary and find that person’s name near the word drum. You will not get the treasure if you don’t try hard.
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Post by diceycat on Sept 4, 2020 12:27:38 GMT -5
Don’t forget about this part.” Walk on nature cast in copper“ when it is mentioned that nature refers to leaves.
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wbgrimesii
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I have several solves but need someone like Josh Gates to get permission to dig for one of them.
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Post by wbgrimesii on Jan 30, 2022 11:11:56 GMT -5
Do we know if there is anyone that has access to information or documentation that would allow them to confirm a dig spot for those locations that the box is no longer there (for whatever reason) ?
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Post by avathelast on Oct 31, 2022 15:17:24 GMT -5
It is a beautiful mystery and lots of debate about it for sure, considering only one is in canada I am still surprised it is thought to be in Quebec, as I dive more into the book, theories and this topic.. I don't believe it is...
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Post by canuck on Oct 31, 2022 20:31:50 GMT -5
It is a beautiful mystery and lots of debate about it for sure, considering only one is in canada I am still surprised it is thought to be in Quebec, as I dive more into the book, theories and this topic.. I don't believe it is... Care to elaborate on this thought? We have had healthy debate over Montreal vs. Quebec City, but I’ve never heard anyone give a good rationale for a different province.
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Post by choice on Oct 31, 2022 21:36:14 GMT -5
We can find the map of area or state or island in the paintings. In this painting the weird lower face/mouth area look like Montreal + Laval. Not mentioning it's big nose is practically the layout of the Olympic stadium with it's suspension wires.
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wbgrimesii
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I have several solves but need someone like Josh Gates to get permission to dig for one of them.
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Post by wbgrimesii on Nov 1, 2022 16:39:21 GMT -5
I for one agree/believe it is in fact in Montreal
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