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Post by Jenny on Aug 15, 2019 13:57:41 GMT -5
In Scrapbook 78,(June 2014) Forrest says:
"I have not said that a searcher was closer than 12’ from the treasure. It is not likely that anyone would get that close and not find it."
This seems to go with the coded (now decoded) words of Forrest:
“If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you.”
Is this 'obvious thing' what the 'Blaze' is (something we haven't thought the Blaze could be)?
If so, it suggests the 'Blaze' cannot be seen from that infamous 200' mark, and that is one reason why those searchers walked right by the treasure....
How small or big do you think the Blaze is?
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Post by ironwill on Aug 15, 2019 14:41:00 GMT -5
In Scrapbook 78,(June 2014) Forrest says: "I have not said that a searcher was closer than 12’ from the treasure. It is not likely that anyone would get that close and not find it."This seems to go with the coded (now decoded) words of Forrest: “If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you.”
Is this 'obvious thing' what the 'Blaze' is (something we haven't thought the Blaze could be)? If so, it suggests the 'Blaze' cannot be seen from that infamous 200' mark, and that is one reason why those searchers walked right by the treasure.... How small or big do you think the Blaze is? As I stated on that Blaze stream with Sean, from my determinations of the following... You can see the blaze from home on google earth or maps, and it has to be small enough for the chest within lets say 20 feet or less. Why is this? Because Forrest has stated that theoretically one can solve all the clues from home, but not likely in practice because one has to be BOTG to retrieve the treasure. That means you can see the blaze from the maps. Now if you can see it from maps, then it has to be small enough to give the chest a pin point spot "quickly down from it". For example, if you were to say your blaze is the cliff side white streak created by mineralization that looks like a flame over the course of a 300 feet wide mountain face (this would not be the case due to it facing a cardinal direction), then there is no pinpoint "look quickly down" That blaze would would cover a span of 300 feet, and finding a hidden 10" x 10" chest in that area in the wilderness is nigh impossible. Given all of that, I'd say the blaze HAS to be around 10-30 feet in size. It gives one sight of it on google maps, and on location, the chest can be pinpointed quickly down from it. That's my opinion and I'm stick'n to it. Now as far as the 12 feet comment, I've thought this over and over and the ONLY thing that is logical, is up in a tree. If the chest is hidden, and no one is going to stumble upon it by accident, then that means there is no way on earth they can get within 12 feet of it without direction. For example, If the chest was put 20 feet up in a pine tree that lives near 1000 years...anyone could walk right underneath the tree and still be over 12 feet away (14 feet to be exact). But if one started climbing up into that tree, they would be within 12 feet, and likely find it because they are climbing it in search for the treasure. I cannot find where that 12 feet comment can apply logically with the other things he's said.
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Post by goldilocks on Aug 15, 2019 16:19:19 GMT -5
This sentence, “If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you” is very similar to Forrest's words, “Talk about the one good clue that searchers can think of themselves but haven't. f” (I believe he said this in an e-mail to Jason Dent, who was looking for an idea for a show...)
I look at these 2 sentences more like crossword clues then to be taken literally. Something we can think of ourselves but haven't or something we haven't thought about...could it be because we have forgotten?
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Post by nmc on Aug 15, 2019 16:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 15, 2019 16:21:34 GMT -5
Trees can become diseased, burn down, blow over, get struck by lightning, get hit by fallen rocks, get felled... They can't be guaranteed to last even to next year.
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Post by goldilocks on Aug 15, 2019 16:44:15 GMT -5
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Post by omni on Aug 15, 2019 17:12:15 GMT -5
In Scrapbook 78,(June 2014) Forrest says: "I have not said that a searcher was closer than 12’ from the treasure. It is not likely that anyone would get that close and not find it."This seems to go with the coded (now decoded) words of Forrest: “If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you.”
Is this 'obvious thing' what the 'Blaze' is (something we haven't thought the Blaze could be)? If so, it suggests the 'Blaze' cannot be seen from that infamous 200' mark, and that is one reason why those searchers walked right by the treasure.... How small or big do you think the Blaze is? Just wanted to say nice job actually using the word infamous correctly. I see that one misused all the time.
As far as the clue goes, I file that one under 'I'll find out when I get there.'.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 16, 2019 0:11:52 GMT -5
I'm aware trees can last a very long time, I'm saying they're not guaranteed to.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Aug 16, 2019 0:52:25 GMT -5
Hi Dave: which is why any clue involving a specific tree would be a stupid clue if longevity was important to Forrest. Forrest knows wildfires are unpredictable. He tried to think of everything, and the vulnerability of trees in the Rockies would not have escaped his calculus.
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Post by goldilocks on Aug 16, 2019 7:19:19 GMT -5
Who said anyone had to climb a tree? These trees are known to withstand the test of time, including fires. The blaze could be something up high, like a beacon of sorts. When did Forrest say exceptions don't count? I must've missed that quote.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 16, 2019 11:06:12 GMT -5
Ironwill did, above.
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Post by ironwill on Aug 16, 2019 11:48:37 GMT -5
Yes I did. I don't want to believe it's up in a tree that you have to climb up a ladder and get, but that's the only 12 feet scenario that makes sense with everything else Forrest has said about the treasure's location.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Aug 16, 2019 11:52:59 GMT -5
I don't fancy a 42lb bronze projectile falling on my head...
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Post by goldilocks on Aug 16, 2019 13:01:09 GMT -5
Yes I did. I don't want to believe it's up in a tree that you have to climb up a ladder and get, but that's the only 12 feet scenario that makes sense with everything else Forrest has said about the treasure's location. Ironwill, not sure if you read The Codex but in the book an arrow with a cable attached is shot across to a tree on the other side of a ravine to pulley things across...very Indiana Jones! Imagine if there's a cable or rope hanging somewhere and all we have to do is tug on it and voila, a treasure chest emerges. Just saying...to all of you logical, unimaginative thinkers out there... this is a treasure hunt after all and anything is possible.
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Post by crm114 on Aug 25, 2019 12:54:02 GMT -5
Trees could be involved. Someone else pointed out Frosty beeping in Totem Cafe Caper sounds just like a metal detector. He is pointing at Forrest sitting under a tree in the picture. A lone tree in the search area could pinpoint the treasure - though I'm sure it's buried in that case so the tree won't crush it if it falls or melt the wax on the jar if it burns. He's said he has wanted to die beneath a tree, and atop the treasure. While trees don't last forever in the wild, they do on old aerial photos. They also can last a long time after falling. Someone a hundred years from now could presumably access old aerials. But even if not, the lack of the tree info in the future just makes it tougher to find. Forrest has alluded to it being tougher to find the longer it goes on.
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