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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 12:46:15 GMT -5
I find it strange that each stanza 3,4,5 all seem like they produce a numerical value of some kind. I've found numerical values that I like for 3 and 5, but am struggling to with 4. What are your thoughts there? I myself like the Dearborn, MI theory for stanza 3 and see the basic c4f5c6e6 for stanza 5 but am completely lost with 4. I haven't seen anything I that really hooks me about that stanza in specific. I suppose I should just get on that post again, but it seemed pretty confusing to everyone.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Sept 29, 2019 13:18:00 GMT -5
I find it strange that each stanza 3,4,5 all seem like they produce a numerical value of some kind. I've found numerical values that I like for 3 and 5, but am struggling to with 4. What are your thoughts there? I myself like the Dearborn, MI theory for stanza 3 and see the basic c4f5c6e6 for stanza 5 but am completely lost with 4. I haven't seen anything I that really hooks me about that stanza in specific. I suppose I should just get on that post again, but it seemed pretty confusing to everyone. Same here.
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Post by captnkush on Sept 29, 2019 17:51:33 GMT -5
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Post by keladry12 on Sept 29, 2019 20:59:26 GMT -5
It looks to me like anything that was written in this SOLFA cypher would only have letters d r m f s l t (from do re mi fa sol la ti)I don't believe that there is anything here at all. How it works is you take a letter like A. You then use this grid to see what the note is, in this case M1 (mi/1). If we have a key and a time signature, then we can put a note down that's the third scale degree and one beat long. Doesn't seem like anything for this riddle.
| do | re | mi | fa | sol | la | ti | | 1 | T | I | A | S | E | N | O | 1 | 2 | K | Z | X | Q/Ø | J | Å | Æ
| 2 | 3 | R | C | H | M | D | L | U | 3 | 4 | F | Y | G | P | W | B | V | 4 |
| Do | Ra | Me | Fi | Sol | Le | Te |
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Post by captnkush on Oct 7, 2019 4:18:34 GMT -5
If anyone is assuming the first key is a North American phone # this may be helpful en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_Numbering_Plan_area_codes theres a couple of interesting facts area codes will not start with a one or zero. Also although i dont see it here im fairly certain there are no prefixes(3 digits after area code) that start that with one or zero either
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Post by jewelie on Oct 7, 2019 8:17:53 GMT -5
Same here on verse 4. I cut the whole poem into 10 parts to make it easier on myself, and that seems to work for me. So, I decided to cut verse 4 into 4 parts to help. I am convinced that the last line refers to a turkey. I like Jurasdic Park for line 3, but nothing seems to really fit yet. Any thoughts on lines 1 or 2?
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Post by susb8383 on Oct 7, 2019 22:15:22 GMT -5
If anyone is assuming the first key is a North American phone # this may be helpful en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_Numbering_Plan_area_codes theres a couple of interesting facts area codes will not start with a one or zero. Also although i dont see it here im fairly certain there are no prefixes(3 digits after area code) that start that with one or zero either Yup, I'm positive the first key is a North American phone number, based on Lukas' hint #1.
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Post by efanton on Oct 8, 2019 7:37:56 GMT -5
Was thinking about this quite a bit last night, although we know the first key is 10 digits we are still not quite sure of the format of those numbers. It occurred to me that C4 F5 C6 E6 does not give a 4 digit number, but 8. I am beginning to be convinced we are looking at a US telephone number If that is the case then stanza 3 must result in a 3 digit number, and that makes sense if it represent a US area code that leaves a single digit for stanza 4. Lukas has insisted that X marks the spot. A single X (or number) from the XXX So instead of looking for hidden meanings I decided to take Lukas quite literally 313 from the Dearborn areacode 9 on a key pad is X C4F5C6E6 on a keypad gives 24352636 Giving us a telephone number 313924352636 THIS DID NOT WORK ON THE KEY TESTER, but to be honest I didnt think it was a simple substitution for X. Why make stanza 4 so complicated if it was simply this? However if we agree that XXX is a solution for the bowling clues, then we are looking for a 3 digit number but the lines could be interpreted as meaning a 3 digit number is the solution to stanza 3 but we only use the middle number (astride) My original solve for the first key before the keytester was released was 313 834 4566. I was pretty convinced that this was correct, until the key tester said otherwise Where did I get the 843? I got it from the Google Maps X placemarker
The point of the post is the format of the first key, and that we have been trying to interpret stanza 4 all wrong. I am strongly leaning towards stanza 5 giving us 8 digits Im still convinced XXX is a partial solve for stanza 4, but this is a 3 digit number from which we take the middle digit onlyI still havent given up all hope that google maps link has a part in the puzzle.
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Post by jewelie on Oct 8, 2019 8:28:28 GMT -5
I really like these thoughts. I have followed a similar path, however, I have a thought I wanted you to consider. My current research has lead me to believe that the breakdown of the 10 numbers is 2, 4, 4. Keep in mind, this breakdown will still result in a 10 digit number that could be used as a phone number. There is no need for the 3rd verse to result in 3 numbers in order for the key to be a phone number.
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Post by eledecer on Oct 9, 2019 12:49:32 GMT -5
I really like these thoughts. I have followed a similar path, however, I have a thought I wanted you to consider. My current research has lead me to believe that the breakdown of the 10 numbers is 2, 4, 4. Keep in mind, this breakdown will still result in a 10 digit number that could be used as a phone number. There is no need for the 3rd verse to result in 3 numbers in order for the key to be a phone number. Sorry if it’s been said, but what lead you to this thinking?
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Post by jewelie on Oct 9, 2019 13:50:40 GMT -5
I am not sold on 313 being the solve for verse 3. I am a huge movie buff, and I think the solve for 3 has to do with E.T. I realized then that you can get a 10 digit number in a variety of ways. I like some combination of verse 5 leading to 4 digits, so 4 digits for verse 4 is left. Might not be right, though, because I have not gotten pass the "enter your passcode" page on the key checks.
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Post by shrek on Oct 11, 2019 3:48:18 GMT -5
Has anyone thought that the number might be written in Roman Numerals i.e. 1987 being MCMLXXXVII (10 digits) and also a turkey inside, just an idea.
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Post by efanton on Oct 11, 2019 4:19:41 GMT -5
Has anyone thought that the number might be written in Roman Numerals i.e. 1987 being MCMLXXXVII (10 digits) and also a turkey inside, just an idea. Personally no. But how are you supporting that idea. How would it fit with any of stanza's 3,4 or 5? What's the significance of 1987?
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Post by goldenchild on Oct 11, 2019 7:47:55 GMT -5
Has anyone thought that the number might be written in Roman Numerals i.e. 1987 being MCMLXXXVII (10 digits) and also a turkey inside, just an idea. Personally no. But how are you supporting that idea. How would it fit with any of stanza's 3,4 or 5? What's the significance of 1987? They supported it because a turkey (xxx) is in there. And IE means example Efanton, in case you didn’t know, so 1987 doesn’t have significance beyond an example. Ideas are totally fine to throw out here without supporting evidence. Hunches do pay off now and then. Don’t intimidate people into not posting please.
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Post by efanton on Oct 11, 2019 8:22:14 GMT -5
Actually i.e (id est in Latin) means THAT IS eg. would be example.
Being that Shrek used i.e and not eg. I assumed MCMLXXXVII was being put forward as a potential solution. Its not a bad idea but like I asked how would it fit with the existing clues?
But yes I have to admit I totally missed the XXX
Just because I ask for clarification doesnt mean I am dismissing an idea. Maybe Shrek had an idea of how the other stanza's would fit as well. If you dont ask you will never know.
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