tpm: it's the same answer for either. Actually, the fact that the strings are different is a bit of a clue in itself. Notice that only the digits are different; the letters are unchanged and in the same order in the Kindle version as in the hardcover.
As you already have solved the string, can I ask if a cipher is needed or if it's just logic?
Post by minotaurmoreno on Apr 14, 2017 19:12:16 GMT -5
Hahaha, zaphod73491, you want to hear something funny. When I first started this, there was only a couple people I wanted to partner up with.
I was trying to partner up with astree, who said no, and another person (astree, I trust you will keep that person anonymous).
Anyway, while partnering up with that other person I accidentally spilled the beans to both of them in a private message to what I was pretty sure this clue's answer was forgetting astree was still on the message.
It was up for over an hour for astree to see if he read it at the right time. After frantically panicking and reading all the help notes for the site, I believe I figured out a way to take him off the message I sent, but have always wondered.
astree, did you see what I wrote that day for the answer to this clue? Please be honest. It definitely wasn't my finest moment.
Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 15, 2017 1:00:51 GMT -5
MM: I don't want to blab the answer on a public forum, but suffice to say it unambiguously ties in with the book. I don't think the answer is a huge help, other than providing some support for the city if you figure it out by other means.
astree , did you see what I wrote that day for the answer to this clue? Please be honest. It definitely wasn't my finest moment.
I saw one place mentioned, I mentioned it back to you when I finally saw the message, but also said that I wasn't getting hits anywhere near that place, so not to worry. Is that the place you're talking about ?
And ... that msg stays between us .. I can keep my secrets ware
PS - wasn't sure how many others were seeing the Ch 23 heading correspondence to numeric. The tip-off there was the end of Ch 22, saying "we need a number" directly in line with the Ch 23 title ( Pete might call this a Paraliminal ), the string ending with the number # sign and beginning with the 5 (the number the Butterscotch Five chose).
One possible (probable?) code that no one has mentioned here is the title to Chapter 23: %@&$$!*# This sure looks like a disguised numeric key since all those symbols are on the 0-9 top row of the keyboard. So translate the symbols into the corresponding numeric key: 52744183.
I've been playing with this since I started the book. I can't get it to work with anything yet though!
HIND TYPO (recall his great-uncle)
I also worked with it as possible lat / long, including scotching the 5.
Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 16, 2017 17:02:40 GMT -5
Hi tpm: for the time being just ignore the capitalization for the purposes of solving the anagram. I haven't found any rhyme or reason for why some letters were capitalized and some weren't. It ~could~ be something is encoded there, or it could be that he just wanted to make the string look more like some weird substitution cipher.
I was going to put the anagram in then next vlog unless someone can give me a good reason not to...
To add to Astree's Chapter 23..
The first sentence of the chapter says "When the others PRESSED Lane..."
If you PRESS the symbols on a keyboard you get the numbers. Has anyone figured out what to do with the numbers?
Working on several varieties of it. May or may not all be numbers.
For example, there is a line that "When I saw it, I had a cross word and nasty thought ... a string of them." Although this supposedly applies to the "Et4ue..."
@ & $ $ could be
A + S S
and a hint could be after they came up with the BUTTerscotch five.
I am playing with idea of all numbers, or letters and numbers.
And remembering, the string is directly opposite the line "We need a number..... The Butterscotch Five"
A note: the keyboard was one of the first things I thought of when I saw the string, but it involves bringing in information outside of the book. It's probably not specialized information, but I am wondering how much we need to go outside of the book.
One of the things that's a bit troubling is that there are 8 characters in the Ch 23 title, and in the book, there are 8 digits in the "Et4ue..." so looking for some type of connection would be natural.
Until finding out that the Kindle version has a different number of digits. Without that information, one could spend a fair amount of time looking for a connection.
If the digits are not important, or not linked to the "Et4ue..." it would have been nice if Pete had screened that. It puts those with the hardcopy on a red herring, but not those with the Kindle.