The Capital Letters in Forrest Fenn's Treasure Hunt: New FQ

[heidini]

Dec 11, 2019 12:09:04 GMT -5 richard said:

Dec 11, 2019 8:52:22 GMT -5 heidini said:

"Danny Boy" lyrics:

Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling

From glen to glen, and down the mountain side

The summer's gone, and all the roses falling

'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide



But come ye back when summer's in the meadow

Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow

'Tis I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow

Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so



But when he come, and all the flowers are dying

If I am dead, as dead I well may be

You'll come and find the place where I am lying

And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me.



And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me

And all my grave will warm and sweeter be

For you will bend and tell me that you love me

And I shall sleep in peace until you come to me.


So what do you guys think of these lyrics? “For you will bend and tell me that you love me and I shall sleep in peace until you come to me? ...If I am dead, as did I will maybe you’ll come and find a place where I am lying and I shall sleep in peace until you come to me?”

Yes it is a well known Irish Folk Song, but it is not Irish. The tune is Irish but the Lyrics were written by an Englishman, Frederic Weatherly in Bath England. The tune it's self was originally called Londonderry Air credited to an unknown musician by Jane Ross. Still the Name Danny is not considered to be of Gaelic origin. The words themselves were written in 1913. 

I am referring only to the name Danny. The most famous Danny is Danny Boy the song. It has several lines that spark thoughts of TTOTC. It is inconsequential the writer or origin of the song.

[whotrollsnigh]

Dec 11, 2019 12:14:15 GMT -5 richard said:

Dec 10, 2019 12:34:56 GMT -5 whotrollsnigh said:

Sounds like you know better than I.  

Here's what I found.

I suggest you look at this. Before 1901 less than 0.007% of the names used in Ireland was Danny. Danny or Daniel does not have a Gaelic spelling or history in the Irish Celtic language. I believe you may be referring to the Scottish Mac Daniels, who's name was erroneously changed from Mac Donald, but that is Scottish not Irish ancestry .:  www.behindthename.com/name/danny/related

Hi, thanks for the link. Here’s something else to consider:

www.libraryireland.com/names/men/domhnall-donall.php

Although we may be stretching this tangent too far.

[richard]

Dec 11, 2019 18:24:11 GMT -5 whotrollsnigh said:

Dec 11, 2019 12:14:15 GMT -5 richard said:

I suggest you look at this. Before 1901 less than 0.007% of the names used in Ireland was Danny. Danny or Daniel does not have a Gaelic spelling or history in the Irish Celtic language. I believe you may be referring to the Scottish Mac Daniels, who's name was erroneously changed from Mac Donald, but that is Scottish not Irish ancestry .:  www.behindthename.com/name/danny/related

Hi, thanks for the link. Here’s something else to consider:

www.libraryireland.com/names/men/domhnall-donall.php

Although we may be stretching this tangent too far.

Had not seen that, my error, and apologies.

[whotrollsnigh]

Dec 11, 2019 23:47:39 GMT -5 richard said:

Dec 11, 2019 18:24:11 GMT -5 whotrollsnigh said:

Hi, thanks for the link. Here’s something else to consider:

www.libraryireland.com/names/men/domhnall-donall.php

Although we may be stretching this tangent too far.

Had not seen that, my error, and apologies.

No apologies. Your point was the shift is rare, and the names have different etymologies. Those arguments are correct and probably mean Danny >> Donald was not f’s intention.

[npsbuilder]

Dec 10, 2019 11:39:59 GMT -5 richard said:

Dec 10, 2019 10:56:11 GMT -5 whotrollsnigh said:

DDII... I DID?

Do you know there’s an upcoming Doctor Dolittle film starring Downey Jr? Doolittle (Jimmy) was just shown in scrapbook 245.

Danny can be the Anglicized version of an irish name equivalent to the English name Donald.

I think your a little bit off there with your name interpretations. 1st off, Danny is not considered to be of Irish origins. It is a name used there but it is not associated with the name Donald. Donald or Do'mhnal is a very old Celtic name and means ruler of the world, Danny on the other hand means judged by God. The only variant to the name Domhnal is it has also been anglicized to Ronald. There are other old Gaelic spellings of Donald, but none of them are equated with the name of Danny. Taken from Irish Names and Their Origins. R. MacCioghmair, my name spelt in Gaelic.

Let's spell Danny a different way - dananni - where Dan is derived from and means "He has judged me" and He represents God.  Rachel was given Dan gave him this name from the belief that God had judged her and gave her a child.

[foolsgold]

Dec 9, 2019 14:18:46 GMT -5 Jenny said:

Course it is 'meant' to be capped.... however, it might not be meant for all those reasons being stated...proper nouns, names, places.... but for a special reason known only to him...I take the answer as a nudge towards it not for the reasons most searchers commonly think....

Even though this thread got derailed, I stole would like to add my 2 cents.

Of course, this is just my own vision and reasoning. Sometimes I wonder if others see my logic in them. So, to the point...

Great Bear Wilderness. Home of Brown. Justified capitalisation. Yes or no?


Feel free to agree or disagree.