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Post by squirejames88 on May 17, 2017 6:42:41 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I am brand new to this (well, I started yesterday). A couple thoughts if you wouldn't mind answering for a newbie: 1) I see in this thread mention of a "de-layered" PDF. I downloaded mine yesterday and when I put it into acrobat there were no layers. Not sure if I am doing something wrong or what. 2) I think I found a rather significant clue. Like, to the point where it would narrow the location into potentially an acre or two of space. It is the solution to just one puzzle and there is maybe one other piece of information on the scroll that would sort of corroborate it. Since I am new to this, I am not sure how I should take this. I'm 95% certain this clue means what I think it means. But there is so much on the scroll that I haven't used to this point. Are there potentially that many red herrings? Is all that other information going to be necessary to get from a general site to a very specific spot? 3) One other note just to contribute something to the group: if you haven't looked, there was a twitter post on Jan 30th with the #TreasureAwaits tag. It is a picture of the rock that is on the scroll (or maybe one that looks just like it) and has an additional line of text. Happy Hunting!
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Post by squirejames88 on May 17, 2017 7:06:15 GMT -5
I am responding to Phil because there are some interesting questions he poses, and, I would like to get some chatter started. About your significant clue, your guess is is good as mine. However, my guess is that there are several games/clues/puzzles and once you have solved them, you can arrange them and end up in a destination.
If you google #Treasure awaits, you should be able to find 4 clues. one with the rock, one about "plum ...period" which came out april 25th, one about 4 of something, one about there are stains to be found. I expect a May clue will come before the end of the month.
None of these clues make sense to me yet. However "stains to" is an anagram of "stations" as in train station.
Just to get some conversation going, I want to give away what I think is my best code break. Take a look at Dorothea Dix Park on google maps, zoom in, and go to satellite view. I believe this is the same shape and orientation of the 5 sided figure on the scroll. I think this is an example of one puzzle of many that can be put together to solve the location.
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Post by kpro on May 17, 2017 17:37:18 GMT -5
I am responding to Phil because there are some interesting questions he poses, and, I would like to get some chatter started. About your significant clue, your guess is is good as mine. However, my guess is that there are several games/clues/puzzles and once you have solved them, you can arrange them and end up in a destination. If you google #Treasure awaits, you should be able to find 4 clues. one with the rock, one about "plum ...period" which came out april 25th, one about 4 of something, one about there are stains to be found. I expect a May clue will come before the end of the month. None of these clues make sense to me yet. However "stains to" is an anagram of "stations" as in train station. Just to get some conversation going, I want to give away what I think is my best code break. Take a look at Dorothea Dix Park on google maps, zoom in, and go to satellite view. I believe this is the same shape and orientation of the 5 sided figure on the scroll. I think this is an example of one puzzle of many that can be put together to solve the location. Really nice post. Did you have other indicators for Dorothea Dix Park?
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Post by squirejames88 on May 18, 2017 6:58:36 GMT -5
No other indicators. I was working on your theory about the "sticks" lining up with downtown when I noticed the shape. The more I looked at, not just the shape, but the orientation, I was convinced it had to be this. I think you might have something on the sticks lining up downtown. So glad to at least get a little conversation going. While I would like to be the one to find it, I would also be happy to be a small part of someone else finding it. I think this one will need a community to solve it.
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Post by kpro on May 18, 2017 15:26:30 GMT -5
No other indicators. I was working on your theory about the "sticks" lining up with downtown when I noticed the shape. The more I looked at, not just the shape, but the orientation, I was convinced it had to be this. I think you might have something on the sticks lining up downtown. So glad to at least get a little conversation going. While I would like to be the one to find it, I would also be happy to be a small part of someone else finding it. I think this one will need a community to solve it. Maybe a rabbit hole, but boy-Len street is near Dorothea dix. I wondered if there are any "carvings" or if that is how you interpreted the car code.
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Post by kpro on May 18, 2017 15:43:32 GMT -5
Ok, in good spirit of getting good stuff going, here is my best find on this one. The grid I believe is
2 long vertical lines : Dawson and McDowell
Lesser lines: Harrington, s. West, Boylen.
If you use the stick guys and convert then you get one that says BOY and one that says LEN.
If you put In grid line mode on google or mytopo, it fits to me exactly.
And yes, this is the same boylen road that runs into Dorothea dix. And there is a station near by.
I thought the dinosaur meant the natural science museum. But that didn't pan out. It is too city and doesn't fit "provincial" which I believe it is in more country.
K
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Post by squirejames88 on May 19, 2017 7:18:30 GMT -5
I interpreted your original grid idea to the same streets. I did not see the boylen thought, but I think that cannot be a coincidence and you are really on to something there. I still however think the natural science museum is right about the dinosaur. My opinion, (and I say "my opinion" seriously as all my ideas could be wrong) is that different parts of the parchment talk about different areas, and you somehow have to tie them together to find the endgame. I also think the rose maps are telling you that the gridlines and orientation of the 5 sided figure and possibly other things are orientated like a map on the parchment.
In an effort to continue to get stuff going, here are a few of my crazier thoughts that i am much less sure of the "Dorothea Dix Park". The 3 cowboys on horses may have something to do with the modern art museum......(I cannot back that up with anything). The vase looking thing could either be an egyptian mummification jar (hence the history museum), or a spittoon, which may tie into the state capitol as I found an article that they may display historical spittoons at the capitol.
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Post by kpro on May 19, 2017 9:47:46 GMT -5
Interesting. I thought the three cowboys has a minus symbol next to it then the vase, so it is a word game. Not sure the word though. I did find the picture is just a stock pic off the Internet.
I will have to look up the spittoon lead. Interesting.
I have a friend that lives in Raleigh and can look if needed. I will contact him and see what progress or updates he has with more of the solve.
Yes, and everything is imo of course!
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Post by squirejames88 on May 19, 2017 12:06:40 GMT -5
I live about a 4 hour drive 1 one way from Raleigh and have relatives in Garner very near there, but I don't plan on making the drive unless I'm pretty sure where I'm looking. The spittoon thing is a wild guess, but the shape of that thing is very perplexing. I agree the cowboys is a stock pic and is generally called 3 cowboys on horses. I'll keep the word game in mind, but I can't make heads or tails of that one.
There is also the 3 circles in the middle of the page and the 4 monthly clues that are driving me up a wall, especially the one about plum....period. Cool that we have some conversation going back and forth and I hope we spur a few more into throwing out any ideas no matter how crazy they can seem.
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Post by kpro on May 19, 2017 12:24:18 GMT -5
Yes nice to have some chatting going on. Here is a few other things.
The car and the v underneath means carvings
I don't know about the three swirls
Not sure what the three circles mean
The year on the coin is covered and means something
I think provincial means it's definition which is country or rustic.
The juex reference means a game or activity. Dorothea dix has a ton of games and events there.
Cab and flow not sure. But an obvious hint.
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Post by kpro on May 19, 2017 18:34:14 GMT -5
Here are today’s discoveries:
Stick Figures convert via the code: BOY CAB FLOW LEN I think we all know that.
BUT – the streets they correspond to: Boylen Lenoir Caberro Florence (the w is off and I think means something) These four streets cross each other near the grid area and make a perfect box. This narrows the area to the “4 corners” or box at an elementary school and playground (I think a poor choice to have an elementary school involved in a solve, but that is just me).
The five sided symbol is within this school/park – perfectly. It is a playground. It is called “Project Enlightenment Park”. If you google it, it fits perfectly. Enlightenment is the name of the school and playground - - “existential” in the poem.
There is a row of what I think are plum trees there too. All seems to fit.
The three small circles is one of the “games” in the playground, actually there are two sets of these. I think that is the jeux reference.
Within two blocks is a mobile vet that is now closed, but can be found on google earth. This could be the car and the v.
Additionally the box can refer to “Box Car Bar and Arcade” which is just over the rail road tracks from this location. This was the past “spy raleigh”, which was a bar. Spyraleigh.com (need to google it and cache). I think another play on words on being a spy in this hunt.
I am trying to play a very honest hunt, so am putting it all out there. Hope that is respected and can collaborate to share more ideas. Please let me know if you see something further. Also, be careful as to what you look like if you are an adult in a playground area with small children searching. Unfortunately, it fits perfectly, so could see why someone would go there.
Jenny, were you in Raleigh by chance today for this hunt? Just curious.
I will probably go out this weekend, not in Raleigh but close enough to scout it out.
K (and all IMO!)
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Post by squirejames88 on May 25, 2017 7:31:48 GMT -5
Any news on whether or not this has been found yet?
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Post by kpro on May 25, 2017 22:23:05 GMT -5
The person who is organizing the hunt has issued a statement today he made some clarification and that info "deter legit treasure hunters from his little game". I am not sure what that means.
Jenny, not sure if the person putting the hunt on wants this info here as I would think your site is related to treasure hunters , and not sure what the definition of a "legit treasure hunter" is.... lol! Tried PMing you, not sure if the message made it to you. If you are one of the 48 in the hunt, you got the message but it is also on twitter (at least part of it).
Squire - not sure what to think. The site has gone silent, which may mean something, not sure what. In looking back on this post many have gone out, even volunteering to help others and now silent. Hmmmmm......
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Post by squirejames88 on May 26, 2017 9:15:51 GMT -5
I had to read that email over several times. I think what they are getting at is that if a sign says you should keep out or impies other restrictions, that a legit treasure hunter would know not to go in there and dig around. I think it was meant as a compliment to legit treasure hunters that they would know not to dig up or trespass on prohibited, restricted, or private areas.
I think it was also saying that they did not hide the treasure in a non public access place or a place with restrictions so there is no reason to go into these places.
As always, this is IMO and should be taken as such.
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Post by kpro on May 26, 2017 22:30:14 GMT -5
Squire you may be right. I went out with my youngest last week, elementary school age so I didn't seem out of place, just to watch the park. There were obvious hunters there. With how much it obviously fits I don't think insane that some searchers thought it might be there.
One male didn't want to go in but kept circling the fence. I saw the scroll in his hand but saw another mom keep looking over at him. Even though he didn't come in the gate, it made for a strange situation.
I just sat and watched, with all the clues to a preschool playground, the street names, the five sides shape, the French word that means games, the three circles, it is not a ridiculous leap, imo.
I can't take the trip in more as I am not close enough. I wonder if this is now a daily issue .
But creepy. Probably should have been thought through better.
I don't think with the latest clue it is there, but again also don't think insane.
Again, the silence is interesting. Especially since the last clue seems to be related to this thread. Another, hmmmmmmm.
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