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Dec 14, 2019 11:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by jonsey1 on Dec 14, 2019 11:28:11 GMT -5
Totally random but when I zoom in on the ISBN on the Lake In The Woods book...it appears the last digit is a six, not an eight like I previously thought....in a 10 digit isbn, the last digit is a "check digit" (can be figured out if you have the first nine)....in this case the tenth digit would be a six as well. When I search that ISBN it's a book titled "Against All Odds". I only mention it as an alternative to the previously thought music book, and because it intrigues me.
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Dec 14, 2019 15:42:46 GMT -5
Post by thisjustin on Dec 14, 2019 15:42:46 GMT -5
I have magnified it as well and it still looks like an 8 to me, but I can understand how you might see it as a 6.
The book you identified would be quite an obscure title to reference; an english translation of an autobiography of a Marathi author. Though I have to say that it is interesting to note that Against All Odds is published by Penguin Books and the Penguin Books symbol is on In The Lake Of The Woods in the illustration.
Always fun to play around with anagrams too. Against All Odds (Sat A Gold Island)
BTW, what is the "music book" to which you refer?
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Dec 14, 2019 16:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by astree on Dec 14, 2019 16:21:24 GMT -5
What about ansgram of "pengiun books"? That keeps it within the puzzle...
Begin up nook, etc I notice the letters isbn are in "penguin books" too
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Dec 14, 2019 17:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Dec 14, 2019 17:12:37 GMT -5
My question is, why is the orange book getting paid more attention to than the red book that clearly has bookmarks to draw attention? "Cast not a Stone"... Then when you go to Panhandle Sam's page, there is a giant stone in the foreground casting a shadow on the ground.
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Dec 15, 2019 9:49:45 GMT -5
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Post by astree on Dec 15, 2019 9:49:45 GMT -5
. Im with you on that, illuminatinps.
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Dec 16, 2019 1:10:34 GMT -5
Post by rarbowen on Dec 16, 2019 1:10:34 GMT -5
I can clearly see an 8 on 400% magnification. I remember finding something, years ago, with the ISBN on a piece of sheet music. I will try to find it, but doubt that it has much credence, as it would be a find outside of the book.
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Dec 16, 2019 8:26:42 GMT -5
Post by stiparest on Dec 16, 2019 8:26:42 GMT -5
I'll add my two cents on this.
I also have magnified the ISBN and I see a 6. Having said that, I can make it into an 8 or a 6 by telling myself what I am seeing. It's like those drawings where you can see either a vase or two faces looking at each other. One of the things that I feel validates a 6 is by comparing it to the first 8, which has two clear circles. The last number - the '6/8', has a 'hanging' loop that either doesn't touch, or barely touches, the rest of the number. Most people write their numbers and letters the same way every time, so because the two numbers don't look like each other, and I mostly see a clear 8 and a rough 6, I go with a 6.
And after all of that, I can't imagine something that is this open to interpretation has anything to do with solving the master riddle.
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Jun 26, 2020 19:42:02 GMT -5
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Post by jonsey1 on Jun 26, 2020 19:42:02 GMT -5
As the end date creeps up on us...i would really like to revisit this... the thing with 10 digit ISBNs is its actually a formula. I.E. if you have the first nine theres only ONE possibility for the tenth. Its a check digit... in this case it would HAVE to be a six...amd I dont know what it means but it must be something. Even if he wrote an 8 and part of whatever clue would be figuring out it has to be a six. I dont know. I just keep coming back to it. Its too strange and is also a Penguin book etc....there's gotta be something there...argh
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Post by stones on Jun 27, 2020 22:06:09 GMT -5
As the end date creeps up on us...i would really like to revisit this... the thing with 10 digit ISBNs is its actually a formula. I.E. if you have the first nine theres only ONE possibility for the tenth. Its a check digit... in this case it would HAVE to be a six...amd I dont know what it means but it must be something. Even if he wrote an 8 and part of whatever clue would be figuring out it has to be a six. I dont know. I just keep coming back to it. Its too strange and is also a Penguin book etc....there's gotta be something there...argh I think that not only this finding, but others that have been accepted as truth may not be. Paec forty sotuh is one example. That has just been transferred to Pace forty south. Well there are hundreds of other possibilities there. And honestly, the "star words" that people have somehow come up with by extending the same color star points to connect on a letter... I've never been able to make those actually connect on those letters! But everyone is stuck on them. I'll admit, I'm very new to this. I'm an extremely logical person with artistic tendencies. If it doesn't make sense, or if you have to "fudge it" to make it work.. to me that doesn't work. Anyway. I'm ready for some out of the box thinking if anyone else is!!
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Jun 28, 2020 11:57:07 GMT -5
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Post by honeybee on Jun 28, 2020 11:57:07 GMT -5
I am totally with you!! Started working on this about 2 months ago but haven’t dedicated a ton of time to it. I did read through almost all the posts on here - but have difficulty putting it all together. So much focus one single parts, wondering how they fit into one riddle? I’m with you on needing new perspective and would be willing to work together if you’re interested.
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Post by thisjustin on Jun 30, 2020 8:35:27 GMT -5
Hi Stones and Honeybee, welcome to the hunt! Fresh perspective is always welcome. Clearly it is needed as we're approaching the end of this 13 year hunt. I've only been at it a year, but some much longer, and the key is still hidden. There have been some here who have generously shared their thoughts, but there are also a lot who could add to the conversation and thought process but don't.
The more thoughts and ideas that are discussed here, the more likely someone eventually gets to the answer. So please share your thoughts and musings as we all try to figure out what we're missing. One thing you'll surely find is that there are A LOT of red herrings and misinformation sprinkled through the book.
Happy hunting!
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Jul 8, 2020 13:59:18 GMT -5
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Post by honeybee on Jul 8, 2020 13:59:18 GMT -5
Thank you Thisjustin! I’ve spent more time focusing on the key page since posting. I can’t help but think that the 2 pyramids in the illustration are important. Maybe they even provide structure (not sure if that is the correct word) for how to follow clues. For example, the red eye pyramid shows Ram, which is the first astrological sign Aries - while the blue eye pyramid shows Bull for Taurus, which is the second sign. Could this mean red before blue? Seems too much of a coincidence that the 2 signs chosen are the 1st & 2nd. Then one pyramid has the broken orange line down the center and a point of interest symbol, while the other has no line up the middle, but a white/blue line similar to the dolphin reigns below the astrological sign. No clue how to put it all together though!! Anyway, that’s the direction I’ve been taking. Sharing to get your thoughts...
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Post by thisjustin on Jul 16, 2020 14:18:57 GMT -5
Thank you Thisjustin! I’ve spent more time focusing on the key page since posting. I can’t help but think that the 2 pyramids in the illustration are important. Maybe they even provide structure (not sure if that is the correct word) for how to follow clues. For example, the red eye pyramid shows Ram, which is the first astrological sign Aries - while the blue eye pyramid shows Bull for Taurus, which is the second sign. Could this mean red before blue? Seems too much of a coincidence that the 2 signs chosen are the 1st & 2nd. Then one pyramid has the broken orange line down the center and a point of interest symbol, while the other has no line up the middle, but a white/blue line similar to the dolphin reigns below the astrological sign. No clue how to put it all together though!! Anyway, that’s the direction I’ve been taking. Sharing to get your thoughts... I've played around with the astrological signs a lot as well. I've looked at positions in the sky, angles, sign order etc. As with seemingly everything in this book there appear to be some interesting takeaways that could be confirmations to various approaches, but nothing definitive. One fun path I went down a while back involved Asticou Gardens. Some believe that is the unmarked POI south of Jordan Pond (others believe it is Thuya Gardens). Anyway, Asticou Gardens anagrams to Argonauts dice. There are dice on the Cadillac Mack page - two showing "twin" 1's (hint to look back at p.11? - and dice are twins in any case). This brought up the story of Jason and the Argonauts, the twins, Pollux and Castor (which brings you to Gemini - the zodiac symbol in the middle of the key on p. 11) and the search for the golden fleece (which brings you to Aries in the red eye triangle) as well as the battle of Troy (troy being a "measure of gold" which is one of the border phrases on p. 11). Virgo has always seemed important to me. She's the harvest maiden with the sun passing through Virgo marking the beginning of the wheat harvest - and there is wheat tacked to the window frame on the Old Lady page. Of course I could probably find some link to all 12 zodiac signs if I tried hard enough ... and I still wouldn't find th key. Thanks for your thoughts and keep sharing!
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Jul 17, 2020 8:13:45 GMT -5
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Post by goldenchild on Jul 17, 2020 8:13:45 GMT -5
The isbn leads to the poi by Jordan lake aka Harleys hut. And the old lady on tea for two is absolutely thuya gardens. The water and land out the window are an exact match from the vantage point of thuya.
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Jul 17, 2020 10:04:41 GMT -5
Post by thedawailey on Jul 17, 2020 10:04:41 GMT -5
We've always thought the unmarked POI refers to the Map House and where Harley lives. The POI is not exactly at the Map House, but at Thuya, where a path leads to the Map House. I have doubts that the ISBN has anything to do with the solution. For one thing, nobody can agree on what it is - and both the 6 and 8 camps are equally adamant they are correct. It's like that black and blue vs white and gold dress that nobody can agree on LOL. If they wanted us to use this number, they would have made it clearer - like the mileage signs. There is no question what those numbers are.
I also have not felt that Harley's cabin is near Asticou or Thuya Gardens. I do agree that the POI is around there, and that the Lady's house could be there, but the fox leaves Jordan Pond and the fairies and then (I Meet an Extremely Strange Man) he finds ' the eastern shore' where he runs into Harley Quinn. I know this could refer to the eastern shore of Jordan Pond, but because that POI is really not near anything (no trailhead, no structure, and you can't even park along the road there), I've always thought it refers to the eastern shore of the island. "The eastern shore" doesn't describe Asticou or Thuya at all.
Along the eastern shore of the island is Acadia's main visitors' center, just off Rte 3. HQ could stand for headquarters, and the visitor's center has a lot of maps and and books for sale. So I've always thought Harley's cabin could be this visitors' center on the eastern side of the island. Of note, this visitors' center borders on, but is not inside park boundaries and is accessible all year, even when the center itself is closed.
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