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Key 2
Jun 11, 2020 23:57:53 GMT -5
Post by roxstarness on Jun 11, 2020 23:57:53 GMT -5
Unless, he put it there....
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 0:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by roxstarness on Jun 12, 2020 0:59:10 GMT -5
Okay so here are my thoughts, just because I really wanna see this thing solved and maybe your brains can finish this train for me.
X marks the spot Join 1st and second keys Longevity in mind Friends fair equal, etc. Appending
I don't think the answer is to log into paypal. It doesn't make sense. Why would he give out his account info. It just seems dumb for someone that seems a little more brilliant than most. He's also using PayPal to return feedback for the 1st key transactions, why would he assume someone wouldn't go in and mess with his account. It's just a weird option. And nothing in Google would lead us to logging into PayPal and then you'd have to send yourself the money? And he only has 1k in there to give away but he checks it regularly enough to return $1 to you within 20 minutes? It just doesn't add up.
Xoom is owned by PayPal Google pay is owned by PayPal There's a lot of other ways to get money that is owed to you online that's not by logging into someone's account.
Anyone wanna start a PayPal pool with me? Maybe we invite him to it, add some ideas about the second key, and ask for the $1k? Lol! Oooo watery tragedy? Friends? Greed?
I just think logging into his account is not really the answer. It's gonna be like collecting money with a passphrase or something from a link. And why does he call it s chest anyway? "Good luck opening the chest" is that just a figure of speech? Or do his words mean something? An online vault?
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 3:38:10 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 12, 2020 3:38:10 GMT -5
Lukas has already "verified" that we have found the chest. It may not make sense to do it that way, but that is the way that he chose. Also, in the message from the first Key phone number, it says that "the second key is independent of the first" meaning we don't use the first key to get the second. Also, I don't know how has been requesting $1,000, but that is very greedy lol Lukas even addresses that on his twitter page.
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 3:46:59 GMT -5
Post by hyde123 on Jun 12, 2020 3:46:59 GMT -5
I still can't even work out what I'm meant to be using for the second key, and what is for the chest. I've gone off on a thousand tangents, as I am sure everyone else has done.
My brain hurts..
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 7:59:15 GMT -5
Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 12, 2020 7:59:15 GMT -5
Okay so here are my thoughts, just because I really wanna see this thing solved and maybe your brains can finish this train for me. X marks the spot Join 1st and second keys Longevity in mind Friends fair equal, etc. Appending I don't think the answer is to log into paypal. It doesn't make sense. Why would he give out his account info. It just seems dumb for someone that seems a little more brilliant than most. He's also using PayPal to return feedback for the 1st key transactions, why would he assume someone wouldn't go in and mess with his account. It's just a weird option. And nothing in Google would lead us to logging into PayPal and then you'd have to send yourself the money? And he only has 1k in there to give away but he checks it regularly enough to return $1 to you within 20 minutes? It just doesn't add up. Xoom is owned by PayPal Google pay is owned by PayPal There's a lot of other ways to get money that is owed to you online that's not by logging into someone's account. Anyone wanna start a PayPal pool with me? Maybe we invite him to it, add some ideas about the second key, and ask for the $1k? Lol! Oooo watery tragedy? Friends? Greed? I just think logging into his account is not really the answer. It's gonna be like collecting money with a passphrase or something from a link. And why does he call it s chest anyway? "Good luck opening the chest" is that just a figure of speech? Or do his words mean something? An online vault? Lukas has already verified we found the chest. He probably used a burner phone to setup the account, so it's a one-off thing for him (which makes sense). Also, Google Pay is absolutely not owned by PayPal. I've personally been able to verify that it *is* a PayPal account, because I triggered a safety precaution that he contacted me about. My assessment so far is as follows: 1. People are overthinking what the chest is 2. People are underestimating how hard the key 2 solve is If I've learned anything from this hunt, then it's the fact that stanzas become harder and harder to solve, and introduce more and more layers to them.
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 8:26:27 GMT -5
Post by hyde123 on Jun 12, 2020 8:26:27 GMT -5
The one thing I keep coming back to is that he said you might have a slight advantage from using Google Maps, as opposed to Bing. Why?
Some other people have said they don't have the option for street view in Bing Maps. I'm in Australia and I can't get to street view in Bing without a specific link.
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 9:55:35 GMT -5
Post by proewe on Jun 12, 2020 9:55:35 GMT -5
Just had an idea: What if what we're looking for on the red strip is rather a keyword to be used to decrypt the cipher that is key 2 but not the key 2 itself? A second thought: What if "competition fair" meaning Playfair refers to a cipher in general but another mode of encryption? It could also be double encrypted...
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 10:19:25 GMT -5
Post by hyde123 on Jun 12, 2020 10:19:25 GMT -5
Just had an idea: What if what we're looking for on the red strip is rather a keyword to be used to decrypt the cipher that is key 2 but not the key 2 itself? A second thought: What if "competition fair" meaning Playfair refers to a cipher in general but another mode of encryption? It could also be double encrypted... It sounds like the thousand dollar question is, what information is around that area to encrypt? And that would result in an obvious step forward when decrypted? I'm also not that great with ciphers, so can't identify what would potentially work, or what the likelihood of actual words decrypting to other words is. There must be a reason why we are at this specific section of road.
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 10:39:01 GMT -5
Post by proewe on Jun 12, 2020 10:39:01 GMT -5
Just had an idea: What if what we're looking for on the red strip is rather a keyword to be used to decrypt the cipher that is key 2 but not the key 2 itself? A second thought: What if "competition fair" meaning Playfair refers to a cipher in general but another mode of encryption? It could also be double encrypted... It sounds like the thousand dollar question is, what information is around that area to encrypt? And that would result in an obvious step forward when decrypted? I'm also not that great with ciphers, so can't identify what would potentially work, or what the likelihood of actual words decrypting to other words is. There must be a reason why we are at this specific section of road. What I'm saying is, the information around that area may not be the encryption itself that we need to decipher, but the keyword we need to apply to another encryption somewhere else. Similar to how we thought Equis was the keyword but didn't know what to apply it to; I'm trying to think of options excluding street view.
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Aech
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Post by Aech on Jun 12, 2020 11:14:07 GMT -5
I've been running in a different direction, mainly because I don't want to do any more ciphers!
I was thinking back to Ready Player One. In that book, they tried to solve for the treasure by learning everything they could about the creator and his influences. One thing that we know about the creator of our hunt is that he is a musician, and he's used music before as part of a solve. So I've been thinking about how this could pertain to this part of the hunt.
A quick Google search revealed: What does a cross mean in music? A double-sharp is an accidental for a note that has two sharps, meaning the original note is raised by two half-steps (also called semitones). The double-sharp symbol resembles a bold letter "x" and is placed before a notehead, similar to other accidentals.
Could this be the X marking our spot? A-C-E is how you would "spell" an A major chord. If you appeneded a cross you'd get B-D-F#. Since there are no special symbols, not sure how the F# would play in.
To continue on, most instruments I can think of are played in hand somehow. Some you don't need to rise from your chair, like piano or keyboard. "For each of you is equal" could refer to the most common time in music-- 4/4 where each measure has 4 equal beats of a quarter note each. I have no idea how "the competition fair" would play into this-- a music competition?? The X Factor???
I really hope someone wins this soon.
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Post by roxstarness on Jun 12, 2020 11:46:21 GMT -5
"I've been running in a different direction, mainly because I don't want to do any more ciphers! I was thinking back to Ready Player One. In that book, they tried to solve for the treasure by learning everything they could about the creator and his influences. One thing that we know about the creator of our hunt is that he is a musician, and he's used music before as part of a solve. So I've been thinking about how this could pertain to this part of the hunt. A quick Google search revealed: What does a cross mean in music? A double-sharp is an accidental for a note that has two sharps, meaning the original note is raised by two half-steps (also called semitones). The double-sharp symbol resembles a bold letter "x" and is placed before a notehead, similar to other accidentals. Could this be the X marking our spot? A-C-E is how you would "spell" an A major chord. If you appeneded a cross you'd get B-D-F#. Since there are no special symbols, not sure how the F# would play in. To continue on, most instruments I can think of are played in hand somehow. Some you don't need to rise from your chair, like piano or keyboard. "For each of you is equal" could refer to the most common time in music-- 4/4 where each measure has 4 equal beats of a quarter note each. I have no idea how "the competition fair" would play into this-- a music competition?? The X Factor??? I really hope someone wins this soon. " I think you're definitely onto something. I know that when auditions are held for the grand symphony, all are "blind" auditions to make them fair. Everyone plays behind a screen, so that no one has an advantage based on what they look like, it's all about the music. More schools and TV shows are starting to do this nowadays as well like The Voice, etc.
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 14:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 12, 2020 14:40:56 GMT -5
I love this. And there are tons of number possibilities here. Like if c is 1, d 2, e 3 etc, then an Am chord (a c e) is 613.
Also, Lukas declined to clarify the a cross across question, so it's not too far off to think it is relevant to key 2.
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Post by silentpartner on Jun 12, 2020 14:55:40 GMT -5
Yes, a new rabbit hole to delve into!
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 15:27:03 GMT -5
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 12, 2020 15:27:03 GMT -5
Right!?
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Key 2
Jun 12, 2020 15:44:57 GMT -5
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Post by proewe on Jun 12, 2020 15:44:57 GMT -5
Sounds interesting, but how does all this relate to the red strip?
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